NingenJanai
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When are you not? ;P
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STEAM | August 2015 - Three versions of Windows since the last Half-Life
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When are you not? ;P
I think that there is chance. Mad Max is casual friendly and it got more marketing for casual audience. MGS is specific game that has huge fan base but will it be enough?
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
I'm just glad releases are more spread out than they used to be.
derExperte
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It has to be sarcasm, is it?
I think Mad Max is nowhere near popular enough to be any kind of contender to MGS
we'll see soon enough
by getting relly high
Dragon1893
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Well, there's still a good game there, but it seems to have a ton of issues and there's none of the stuff you'd expect to see like widescreen support.
UI/2D assets are untouched, game is alergic to controllers, 30fps (original had battles running at 60), there are a ton of bugs like out of sync audio.
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
If anyone's expecting Rocket League sales for their games, they may as well go out of business.
The fact that the price being asked by many of the higher tier indies went up 100% (from 9.99 to 14.99 to 19.99) and we all have backlogs that will last us dozens of year... We really might be nearing indiepocalypse.
Especially since most of sequels released recently (Grimrock 2, Hotline 2, Trine 3, Avernum 2) underperformed.
Looks good, will definitely give the demo they mentioned in the description a shot once it's available.
I think sequels and what we expect from indie developers are two entirely clashing concepts, though. A lot of us expect, or atleast want new, innovative, thinking and / or unique games from indies; not marginally improved sequels. So it's not surprising to me, really.
I think that many somewhat famous indie games are way too expansive to enter into impulse buy territory day one, but then again maybe those inflated prices are needed for them to survive, I wouldn't know.
OTOH, after steamspy guy wrote that article about how many steam users are actually buying games at all, I'm sure indiepocalypse is coming, there are simply not enough interested people for amount of games we are getting, not even close, actually.
edited: let's not forget that it's not only steam, indie games have to compete with thousands of free games and mobile games too.
MMBosstones86
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With Dark Souls down and MGS in less than I week, need some short to run through.
Or I'll justplay idle Clicker Heroes some more.
Did her contact fall out?
Or I'll just
I go hang out with my friends for a few hours and miss a GMG coupon and a Mega Man giveaway.
Did her contact fall out?
rainking187
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Does anyone know how many days GMGs Indie Summer Sale is scheduled to go on for?
Hero Prinny
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You forgot to add V has come but overall its a solid theory
Count ittt im counting episode duscue or whatever is called as a game
He's a witch!
lashman
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Yeah, i feel the same.
If we want to classify indies into their own categories, We have
A Indies: (pick one or more) Low effort, very small budget, Jim Sterling Fodder, Shovelware, Standard Unity assets, Walking Simulators, etc. guys like Digital Homicide, Galctic Cafe (Stanley parable, sory that I lump them together
)AA Indies: some started there, others had a Big Hit and got bigger (in Headcount or budget), One-Hit Wonders, several small Kickstarter projects, small teams with a big project, that needs funding from a publisher (Studios, that are dependent on Paradox Publishing or other midsize Publishers like Deep Silver or nordic games), guys like ReLogic (Terraria), Ageod (Dark Souls games of Grand Strategy), Colossal Order Ltd. (Cities: Skyline), etc.
AAA Indies: some indipendeant Studios with big headcounts for such studio that needs either crowdfunding other Publishers for Marketing (Paradox, Deeps Silver) or a Console exclusive deal, guys like InExile, Larian, Egosoft, Obsidian etc.
I would say, if a mass extinction happens, it willbe in the AA indie sphere. One Flop and you could lose your Publisher Funding if you aimed too high for the next game. Or Kickstarter backlash if your customers dont think you "deserve" another million funding after you go for Kickstarter for every tiny thing you do and then you have the audacity to do an early access game on the side! Or you just ask too much for your next game, or ask the same for the next game but it is too short. Or you were riding that tiny little nostalgia niche and it was satisfied with just that one game. Or your game sucked.
A indies have such a low budget and thousands of newcomers, that we dont need to "fear" their downfall.
AAA Indies could do a "dirty job" for a publisher if they are in dire needs. Yes, some could go under, but they are not in danger like AA indies.
Larian are going to make me poor I guess.
Also just trying to get DirectX up to date and fuck me does Microsoft nag you to 'try' their shit these days. First on the download screen they ask if I want to download a load of nonsense I don't need and then upon installation they ask if I want to install the Bing search bar. I expect this from going to the seedy side of the internet and downloading malware infected, unoffical fixes for stuff. Even Google aren't this bad.
Would be funny to see the lengths people would go to for the sake of increasing their game count. I'm sure there will be some bonkers $4,000+ Digital Storm Steam Machine at some point.
I don't know, even if it isn't 'The One' (and it probably won't be) it's nice to have options. Right now I've got a Dual Shock 2 via USB adapter, Dual Shock 3, wired and wireless 360 pads, USB Gamecube adapter, MayFlash adapter for the WiiU Pro Controller as my control pad selection and I find something good about all of them for certain things. The Pro Controller is a couple of analog triggers short of replacing most of those but I still use a Dual Shock 2 with PCSX2.
Also just trying to get DirectX up to date and fuck me does Microsoft nag you to 'try' their shit these days. First on the download screen they ask if I want to download a load of nonsense I don't need and then upon installation they ask if I want to install the Bing search bar. I expect this from going to the seedy side of the internet and downloading malware infected, unoffical fixes for stuff. Even Google aren't this bad.
Would be funny to see the lengths people would go to for the sake of increasing their game count. I'm sure there will be some bonkers $4,000+ Digital Storm Steam Machine at some point.
I don't know, even if it isn't 'The One' (and it probably won't be) it's nice to have options. Right now I've got a Dual Shock 2 via USB adapter, Dual Shock 3, wired and wireless 360 pads, USB Gamecube adapter, MayFlash adapter for the WiiU Pro Controller as my control pad selection and I find something good about all of them for certain things. The Pro Controller is a couple of analog triggers short of replacing most of those but I still use a Dual Shock 2 with PCSX2.
Yeah, i feel the same.
If we want to classify indies into their own categories, We have
A Indies: (pick one or more) Low effort, very small budget, Jim Sterling Fodder, Shovelware, Standard Unity assets, Walking Simulators, etc. guys like Digital Homicide, Galctic Cafe (Stanley parable, sory that I lump them together
AA Indies: some started there, others had a Big Hit and got bigger (in Headcount or budget), One-Hit Wonders, several small Kickstarter projects, small teams with a big project, that needs funding from a publisher (Studios, that are dependent on Paradox Publishing or other midsize Publishers like Deep Silver or nordic games), guys like ReLogic (Terraria), Ageod (Dark Souls games of Grand Strategy), Colossal Order Ltd. (Cities: Skyline), etc.
AAA Indies: some indipendeant Studios with big headcounts for such studio that needs either crowdfunding other Publishers for Marketing (Paradox, Deeps Silver) or a Console exclusive deal, guys like InExile, Larian, Egosoft, Obsidian etc.
I would say, if a mass extinction happens, it willbe in the AA indie sphere. One Flop and you could lose your Publisher Funding if you aimed too high for the next game. Or Kickstarter backlash if your customers dont think you "deserve" another million funding after you go for Kickstarter for every tiny thing you do and then you have the audacity to do an early access game on the side! Or you just ask too much for your next game, or ask the same for the next game but it is too short. Or you were riding that tiny little nostalgia niche and it was satisfied with just that one game. Or your game sucked.
A indies have such a low budget and thousands of newcomers, that we dont need to "fear" their downfall.
AAA Indies could do a "dirty job" for a publisher if they are in dire needs. Yes, some could go under, but they are not in danger like AA indies.
you are oversimplifying it. There are much more than 3 categories of indies, in fact there are countless categories and I'm not a fan of all unpopular (even good niche game devs) thrown into shovelware category.
Indies doesn't have to sell millions to be successful or good devs, an indie dev that finds niche that is unfilled even if it's a game only 2K people will play and enjoy is much more valuable in my eyes than AA dev that will make a good game there are already hundreds good games like this.
We have AAA gaming for being bland, safe and uninspired, but making millions, don't we?
AHA-Lambda
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I wonder which game will be No1. on September 8th. If Mad Max ends up on the first place and MGS V on second it will be interesting
Will never happen.
Grimrock underperformed?
This has NOTHING to do with value and how much you, me or any other LIKE or HATE a game.
It is about survivability in regards to Budget, Headcount and ... Consumer goodwill.
"A" Indie games are still being made if an Indipocalypse happened. Our 1 hour masterpiece or a standard unity asset sh*t. Thats why its A Indie, There will always be someone who will try to make a quick buck with a shitty game or someone who pours his heart in his first project or his own magna opus that will be profitable with 2k Sales.
The "AA" or midbudget Indie sphere is at risk here.
that does explain a lot.
Baron_Calamity
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Risk for whom? Are we at risk of games not being made, or that studios will not survive beyond one or two releases?
Even at the triple A level, there is this endless cycle of studios forming, building up, releasing a title or two, and then disbanding. As long as a few games hit it big, there will always be someone who will take a chance and forming a group to develop something. I don't foresee any change in the number or quality of games we are getting. The only thing that has really changed is the big publishers aren't absorbing the bigger indies like they use to.
Yes, I was actually thinking about that earlier this morning. That also happens to me with people not from SteamGAF. I don't think people know who I am, especially because this year I've rarely been in this thread (not that I don't want to, it's just I've been out for so long that every time I come here, I feel utterly lost because I have no idea what you guys are talking about).
Yeah, why not? It's a free +1
It was IIRC at 15k before the 75% during Summer Sale.
This is not correct. There was an earlier thread with a similar subject in April when Steamspy launched and Grimrock 2 had 100k sales at that point.
MMBosstones86
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That's ok. We don't know what we're talking about either.
Baron von Loathsome
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I can't believe I missed the GMG code mistake AND the Mega Man giveaway. Stupid first day of new semester.
https://www.reddit.com/r/metalgears...n_update_steam_post_repost_first_fob_is_free/
Did someone post this? It looks like a F2P title, first FOB is free, but you need currency to develop it. And you can get those coins by logging daily? It will end to be something similar to "Spend 1000 coins to extend your FOB", 2 daily coins, 1 coin each mission you S rank. Lol :l
I hope Konami won't fuck up this.
Did someone post this? It looks like a F2P title, first FOB is free, but you need currency to develop it. And you can get those coins by logging daily? It will end to be something similar to "Spend 1000 coins to extend your FOB", 2 daily coins, 1 coin each mission you S rank. Lol :l
I hope Konami won't fuck up this.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
I played some of The Swapper last night.
so it's a puzzle focused metroid-like? I gotta say, there were a couple of rooms that left me wondering if I was just too stupid to figure them out lol
so it's a puzzle focused metroid-like? I gotta say, there were a couple of rooms that left me wondering if I was just too stupid to figure them out lol
MMBosstones86
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I'm not clicking that shit, but is that the IGN stuff? I thought it was posted and debunked already.
That game will make you brain feel like clay. har har. Good luck with the Achievements btw
The fact that most steam users wait for sales its what has motivated that increase thought.
Launching at €20 means your -50% sales are €10 instead of €5 and your -75% sales are €5 insteado of €2.5.
And I won't blame gamers for that, I do it too because I also have a three digits backlog so I can't afford to pay full price if I'm not going to play it in that very moment.
But I don't think steamspy is trying to blame anybody, they are just saying that there are signs of saturation and I certainly agree with them.
Edit: lol that quote made me jump to another thread
Jawmuncher
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Microtransactions are the true spoilers. No it's reddit and it's a response from Konami.
Also that was gamespot and not IGN.
TheLetdown
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It's a little more linear than a Metroidvania-like-like. There are a few puzzles that can really gut check you. I'd suggest walking away from it if you get the urge to try to Youtube one. Coming back fresh or getting your mind right seems to help.
I remember really digging the ambient sounds so I played the game fucking LOUD and loved every minute of it. It's fairly short, and the ending is great.
Backed!
I was focusing more on the F-bomb.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
I've never really been an achievement guy. for me, it's an achievement to finish a game so i'm just fine with that.
Yeah, only one puzzle really got to me last night but my bigger issue was that once I knew how to solve it I had to nail the execution. Took me 3-4 tries to get it right so it was a bit annoying in that sense.
You got 34 days to get the extra fives if there are still early bids left
You are throwing money at Steam when you want to back it?
Why the hell does the location state 'Sacramento, CA'?
I thought they were based in Ghent, Belgium?
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