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[Nzyme32]

Well, I see a lot of aiming with the movement keys. It reminds me of how trackball players play.

Isn't that pretty standard even at higher levels of play? Like in CS I think you're supposed to keep your mouse on the level of where you anticipate you opponent to be and get him in sight by using your movement keys. I think I saw a video on that once.

It is pretty standard for the scout, where your advantage is movement speed and being hard to hit.

Does something like Brothers still require a controller? That might not be compatible then?

There is no reason why it shouldn't work. All the 360 controls match up to the Steam Controller. You probably couldn't use the pad as a trackball or mouse though since the game hasn't allowed that anyway, so you'd be stuck emulating analogue movement

 

[Foxyone]

Will the Steam controller likely end up as a good emulator controller for something like Dolphin?

 

[daninthemix]

I am most interested in seeing how intuitive heavily cursor-driven games play with this, like Dragon Age or C&C. Whether it will be fatiguing or annoying.

 

[orava]

I am most interested in seeing how intuitive heavily cursor-driven games play with this, like Dragon Age or C&C. Whether it will be fatiguing or annoying.

Or glorious.

 

[Unai]

Will the Steam controller likely end up as a good emulator controller for something like Dolphin?

It has everything to be the ultimate non wii remote controller for Dolphin, yes. For instance, we can use the right trackpad as the pointer in a shooter or tilt it in games like New Super Mario Bros (like in those bridges that you control by tilting the controler).

 

[Nzyme32]

Some pictures I saw on Reddit:

 

[Lexxism]

Subscribed. Need to see some feedback on this

 

[MNC]

I need my controller. I so want it. I actually want the software implementation within steam even more.

 

[Shy]

Some pictures I saw on Reddit:

Which thread did you see that in, if you don't mind me asking. ?

 

[Nzyme32]

Which thread did you see that in, if you don't mind me asking. ?

Edit - found it - https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3ccj3e/so_my_buddy_just_got_this/

 

[Crayon]

Some pictures I saw on Reddit:

Gawdamn i want so bad.

 

[Shy]

Edit - found it - https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3ccj3e/so_my_buddy_just_got_this/

Thanks very much.

Gawdamn i want so bad.

Me too.

 

[SinShep]

There's something I find quite amusing in the short moment that BJ Blazkowicz stabs that Nazi in the throat to the promo's upbeat music.

 

[Pjsprojects]

Ahh do I buy this or the XB1 Elite controller?? Does this have rumble feature?

This is a better price but one thumb stick hmmm.

 

[Unai]

Does this have rumble feature?
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It has the most advanced "rumble" ever.

 

[HUELEN10]

If only it worked for non-steam games, I have so many games not on steam.

 

[viveks86]

If only it worked for non-steam games, I have so many games not on steam.

It certainly would. Heck, you can control the OS with it if you want.

 

[Quadraphonic]

It has the most advanced "rumble" ever.

It connects to your nervous system and can fire simulated, controlled neurons that send signals to your spine to cause your hands to shake themselves, providing the most realistic and metered feedback possible, all with minimal battery usage.

 

[alexandros]

It certainly would. Heck, you can control the OS with it if you want.

Oh I do very much want that. It's a huge selling point for me.

 

[ashecitism]

If only it worked for non-steam games, I have so many games not on steam.

You just need to add them to to library as non-steam games (and use BPM) and the bindings menu should work

 

[Candescence]

Still not available for pre-order in Australia anywhere

Though, I might have to figure out when would be the best time in my project's development process to apply for a dev controller, I guess.

 

[Grief.exe]

If only it worked for non-steam games, I have so many games not on steam.

You don't even need Steam installed. To my admittedly limited knowledge, this device should work on any computer with a USB input. You won't be able to adjust the bindings, but the controller will default to standard M/KB emulation on boot.

I believe it reflashes its configuration on boot so you don't end up with a broken configuration and so it works without Steam integration.

 

[Nzyme32]

If only it worked for non-steam games, I have so many games not on steam.

It works with everything. You only needs Steam to be able to rebind and customise it. You can add anything you want as a "non-steam" game and use it, or you could not use Steam at all and let it act as a combination mouse/keyboard/controller which the machine will detect it as. It isn't even restricted to PCs thanks to that ability - it works with a Dreamcast for example

 

[nobodyshero]

I'm a couch PC gamer, so I never use a M&KB. I'm curious to see what games this controller ends up making more viable for someone like me.

 

[komorebi]

You just need to add them to to library as non-steam games (and use BPM) and the bindings menu should work

Incoming Mass Effect Trilogy re-playthrough in 3...2...1...O

Spoiler

ctober

 

[Crayon]

I'm a couch PC gamer, so I never use a M&KB. I'm curious to see what games this controller ends up making more viable for someone like me.

Im a couch gamer who does use a keyboard and mouse and it sucks a box of cocks. My wrist is going to explode if this controller doesnt get here soon enough.

 

[dancrane212]

It works with everything. You only needs Steam to be able to rebind and customise it. You can add anything you want as a "non-steam" game and use it, or you could not use Steam at all and let it act as a combination mouse/keyboard/controller which the machine will detect it as. It isn't even restricted to PCs thanks to that ability - it works with a Dreamcast for example

Are you talking theoretically or has someone actually got a Steam controller running on a Dreamcast for KB/M games?

 

[ashecitism]

Are you talking theoretically or has someone actually got a Steam controller running on a Dreamcast for KB/M games?

The coolest thing about the steam controller is how it works on the low level. It's not emulating a keyboard and mouse, it is a keyboard and mouse. As in, it gets recognized as such in it's default legacy mode. When you reconfigure these controllers in Steam and launch the game, there is no translation software going on, nothing driver level, nothing in between the controller and the game. The secret is in a reflashable firmware on the controller - every time you change the config and launch a game, the controller's firmware is flashed with your configuration. That means it's actually remapping the buttons on the controller itself, not in software.

Where this gets really cool is when you take this thing to a non-PC that isn't running steam: it still works. It's literally a keyboard and mouse. I've used my steam controller on a windows 98 PC - played System Shock 2 with it. I've used it on a playstation. I've used it on my mobile phone. I used it on my dreamcast. You can use it on anything that recognizes a keyboard or mouse, because it is a keyboard and mouse.

Very cool stuff.

.

 

[Crayon]

Are you talking theoretically or has someone actually got a Steam controller running on a Dreamcast for KB/M games?

Krejlooc tried it. It works with a usb/dc adapter. The controller reports as a keyboard and mouse by default.

 

[Grief.exe]

Are you talking theoretically or has someone actually got a Steam controller running on a Dreamcast for KB/M games?

The Dreamcast was cool

 

[Hilti92]

On my mobile phone but was it ever addressed if this will work with the XBOX One when windows 10 comes?

 

[Xplatformer]

There is no force feedback/rumble correct?

 

[Crayon]

There is no force feedback/rumble correct?

It has some crazy haptic feedback. Not exactly rumble.

 

[Sou Da]

Will there be any way to get the thumbstick recognized as a stick in non steam games?

 

[Nzyme32]

There is no force feedback/rumble correct?

From the Steam Universe page.

HD haptics

Haptic force actuators on both sides of the controller deliver precise, high-fidelity vibrations measured in microseconds. Feel the spin of a virtual trackball, the click of a scroll wheel, or the shot of a rifle. Every input, from the triggers to the trackpads, can offer haptic feedback to your fingertips, delivering vital, high-bandwidth, tactile feedback about speed, boundaries, thresholds, textures, or actions.

 

[dancrane212]

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That's awesome! I had no idea there was a USB -> Dreamcast adapter out in the wild, figured there was just PS/2 converters for that system.

In a perfect world you'd be able to use it for gamepad only games; I can't stand the DC controller anymore.

 

[Dead Prince]

i preordered one just to see how it would be like to program a game with it in mind

 

[Shy]

From the Steam Universe page.

Gaben magic, gotcha.

 

[alexandros]

God damn it I want one so bad right now . I want to play Into the Stars in bed and the game is mouse and keyboard only. Seriously, I don't care at all that the controller will never be as precise as a mouse. It will make mouse-driven games playable without a mouse and I would gladly pay double the price for that feature alone.

 

[Decado]

Where can you pre-order this in Canada? Besides ebgames. Best Buy doesn't seem to list it.

 

[ashecitism]

On my mobile phone but was it ever addressed if this will work with the XBOX One when windows 10 comes?

Is XB1 going to support kb&m?

 

[kinggroin]

Is XB1 going to support kb&m?

It already does.


Though I doubt that's what his post was asking about

 

[rav]

I can't wait for mine to ship!
(I got in on the first group of preorders that went live on steam.)

 

[Unai]

It already does.


Though I doubt that's what his post was asking about

He asked because if it supports kb&m means it also accepts the Steam Controller.

 

[Refreshment.01]

From the Steam Universe page.

But isn't the haptic feedback limited to your thumbs only? i thought it was for the trackpads, if there's feedback for the other buttons it would be a pleasent surprise to me.

i would like to see this controller in white contrasting with those 2 black track pads. It's great to see someone is doing something with control input besides Nintendo. Great to see Valve's hard R&D turning into something concrete finally.

 

[robotrock]

On my mobile phone but was it ever addressed if this will work with the XBOX One when windows 10 comes?

You mean for Xbox One streaming to Windows 10? Not sure. Would be neat though.

 

[VanWinkle]

I really want to get this as soon as it comes out, but I also think that, with a controller like this, it's important to know if the controls become more intuitive after a good amount of use. I get that I probably won't like it to start out, because, primarily, the touchpads are so different than sticks and dpad, but I want to know that it becomes a GREAT control method after you're used to it.

 

[BleedOrange]

I'm probably in for V2. Preordered the Xbox One Elite controller after E3.

 

[Nzyme32]

On my mobile phone but was it ever addressed if this will work with the XBOX One when windows 10 comes?

Only if the games support keyboard and mouse input - which they don't - so it won't be supported in game. If you can use a keyboard and mouse else where, it will work (but without the ability to configure it since you can't use Steam)

But isn't the haptic feedback limited to your thumbs only? i thought it was for the trackpads, if there's feedback for the other buttons it would be a pleasent surprise to me.

i would like to see this controller in white contrasting with those 2 black track pads. It's great to see someone is doing something with control input besides Nintendo. Great to see Valve's hard R&D turning into something concrete finally.

Apparently it isn't limited to the trackpads. The feedback in the Steam Controller, in theory, should be able to provide a lot more nuanced feedback vs a standard controller. However, for the games without native support to really exploit that, I am not sure what the experience will be like since it will have to mimic what other controllers a programmed for, and I don't know if the haptics in the Steam Controller can offer the same amount of force compared to traditional controllers.

I'm probably in for V2. Preordered the Xbox One Elite controller after E3.

It's not even a competition when it comes to PC use for me. No Xbox pad / analogue sticks are able to allow me to play the myriad of mouse based games I want to play with a controller. Being able to have mouse-like precision in something like MGS GZ / V is an immediate selling point too. I would definitely have been waiting for a gen 2 versions (as I would for most new tech), however this is a product I really need for what I want to do

 

[D3RANG3D]

I preordered mine :3