Yeah, maybe in the USA, but as always Europe gets the shaft. The 3060 is still around €300-320 here.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Yeah, 3060 is around 2070 level. ps5 is more 2070 super...but it's all close.
3060 got that dlss tho
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Before I took my coffee this morning, when I glimpsed at the thread title, and saw
winjer
name, I thought for a second that AMD broke the top charts with the Starfield bundles or something.
Then I saw its the same old same old. 3060 had actually charted #1 a few months ago with over 10%
It didn't just pop out of existence the month after, just that surveys will remain surveys, it can oscillate.
What you see is peoples investing more money somehow to keep up with game demand, what I see is peoples' return on investment from the 1060/1650 to have paid off. Likely the same will happen with the 3060.
That's the beauty of PCs, scalability.
Seeing Counter-Strike, DOTA 2, PUBG, Apex, GTA V, War Thunder, Team Fortress 2, Rust, Warframe, Civilization VI to reach millions of players every days, must be triggering so many console top execs. They wish they even had close to that retention.
winjer
name, I thought for a second that AMD broke the top charts with the Starfield bundles or something.Then I saw its the same old same old. 3060 had actually charted #1 a few months ago with over 10%
It didn't just pop out of existence the month after, just that surveys will remain surveys, it can oscillate.
What you see is peoples investing more money somehow to keep up with game demand, what I see is peoples' return on investment from the 1060/1650 to have paid off. Likely the same will happen with the 3060.
That's the beauty of PCs, scalability.
Seeing Counter-Strike, DOTA 2, PUBG, Apex, GTA V, War Thunder, Team Fortress 2, Rust, Warframe, Civilization VI to reach millions of players every days, must be triggering so many console top execs. They wish they even had close to that retention.
Steam Deck & Switch 2:
Sure because developers needs to gimp games for the Steam Deck and the Switch.
You seems to lack logic and intelligence.
Senua
Member
So dumb isn't itAt least it has more than 8GB of VRAM. More than the 3070 and 3080
Lucifers Beard
Member
Some of those people have literally no reason to move away from those cards when all they play are esports games like League, DOTA2, Overwatch and CS2.
Boss Mog
Member
You should start by hoping video games are still a thing in the next 20-30 years. The way things are going, a complete societal collapse is a distinct possibility.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
winjer
Member
With every generation of people, there is always someone that says that society is going to collapse, just because they don't like how things are changing.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
I don't see it where I'm living. Standard of living is better than it ever was. I guess it all depends...
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Senua
Member
Goalus
Member
On PC it's scalability.
On console it's "holding back the industry".
crazyriddler
Member
Only when raytracing is used, PS5 is more on par with 2080/3070 in pure rasterization.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Steam Deck & Switch 2:
It's funny how PC boys actually think the Steamdeck and its 3 million users somehow matter.
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
The majority of games released aren't graphic intensive.
Just the AAA minority.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
bro what you are replying to is from a completely different thread
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Dream-Knife
Banned
Hardware - Steam has a new top GPU - Hail the new king
After five years, the GTX 1060 has lost it's crown as the most used GPU, by Steam users. And that GPU is the RTX 3060, with double the vram, more than double the TFLOPs, RTX and Tensor units, it's a huge jump.
winjer
Member
Hardware - Steam has a new top GPU - Hail the new king
After five years, the GTX 1060 has lost it's crown as the most used GPU, by Steam users. And that GPU is the RTX 3060, with double the vram, more than double the TFLOPs, RTX and Tensor units, it's a huge jump.www.neogaf.com
LOL. I didn't even remember that I had created that thread.
I guess the title should be the old king returned to the top, a few months after.
there's no parity clause for visual features or framerate between the Series X and Series S.
And devs certainly aren't going to be making completely different builds for the next Steamdeck.
Romulus
Member
And don't forget a neutered cpu by comparison to what 99% of 3070 users have.
Mithos
Member
3080+/4070 is the minimum upgrade I want to do from my 2060 Super, but I'm not that keen on paying ~€800 for it.
Sadly when that performance is available for the price point I'm willing to pay, games will not run as good as I want/need/require.
GymWolf
Member
I'm sorry?
SantaC
Member
Because a console cant scale upwards like PC.
The person using a 3060 today can upgrade to a 4090 tomorrrow. Did you try that with your PS5?
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Thirty7ven
Banned
I'm sorry.
GymWolf
Member
So we are both sorry?!
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
The 3070 is neck and neck with the 2080 Ti. So 2080 Ti = 2080 despite the former being 25-30% faster?
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
Well, there we go.
Anyways on your actual topic... Devs are more willing to optimize for it than the Xbox. As far as I'm concerned it's entrenched itself in gaming discussion despite the lack of sales. And it's supposedly been making waves in Japan, for pretty obvious reasons. You're gonna be hearing about it for years to come.
Dream-Knife
Banned
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
Get ready for the threads saying the PS5 pro is a 4090 equivalent.
amigastar
Member
As far as i know a 4070 costs 600€. How about that? Should be a good upgrade from your 2060 Super.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I wouldn't get anything less than a 4080
amigastar
Member
For 4k? Sure. For 1080p? A 4070 is good enough.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
For 1080?! Wtf man. Upgrade monitor. Dlss is so good, it's a waste to play at shitty 1080p
Drizzlehell
Banned
No offence but takes like that are just detached from reality.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Yes. And?
amigastar
Member
I'm thinking about getting a 2.560 x 1.440 monitor since 4k is overkill for my 4070.
FalconPunch
Member
Nah. If the upgrade path is every 4 years, a 4070 is not good enough. The 3080 10gb is already struggling and the 4070 will be following it soon.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
The most popular games are Fortnite, CSGO, LoL, Dota, Minecraft, and Roblox. Those big AAA games with intense graphics are a minority, and a much smaller piece of the pie than multiplayer games that can run on an Intel Core Duo and a GTS 250.
Sleepwalker
Member
The funny part to me is most reviewers I watch nowadays have a portion of their videos dedicated to see performance on deck, ally, whatever.
However, not many are going out of their way to say "yeah I tested the series S version and.."
These handhelds have a very good portion of the enthusiast mind share
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Get a 3440x1440. Once you ultrawide there is no coming back.
hyperbertha
Member
Lol it's not 'perfectly fine' unless you have very low standards for image quality.
Anything above 35 inch 1440 doesn't cut it.
winjer
Member
Changing from 1080p to 1440p was aa amazing move for me.
It's the sweet spot between performance and image quality.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
I've had an ultrawide 3440x1440 for a while now but I'm starting to feel the resolution is a bit low. I'd like 5120x1440 or 6880x2880.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Highly subjective.
amigastar
Member
Of course 4k would be the gold standard but i care for high fps so i think i'll pass.
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
Lysandros
Member
About 2080/S. 3070 is too much of a stretch. Doesn't mean PS5 can't offer a similar performance in select cases due to console optimization.