LurkerPrime
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I'm sure the true extent of "influencer" marketing would make everyone recoil.
It's gross.
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I'm sure the true extent of "influencer" marketing would make everyone recoil.
It's gross.
I'm thinking of buying Deus Ex: Invisible War on GMG (1,39 with the homepage voucher), should I? I love the first one and Human Revolution, but I held off playing IW because of the disappointing critical reception and even worse when it comes down to fan ratings.
Yay or nay? It goes without saying that my expectations are in check. It's not about money, but whether I should spend my 20-ish hours on it.
Yay or nay? It goes without saying that my expectations are in check. It's not about money, but whether I should spend my 20-ish hours on it.
crazyrabbits
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Someone here asked me yesterday about planning for R6 Siege and how a marketing company would react to it being positioned against two other major games. Most of the time, the firm or marketer in question has nothing to say about it - the release date/campaign is signed off by the head of the company, and the marketing firm just has to make do with what they have.
Even I've never seen the real extent of influencer marketing. Most firms draw up a series of talking points just like this email. You hammer home those points constantly to drill it into your contact that this is what you want conveyed. The problem with most influencer marketing is that it comes off as horribly corny and stilted.
I used to second-guess myself when I'd send out the umpteenth message that was regurgitating a press release and asking them to call me back, and I still get emails from some local firms in Toronto that read like an essay about why I'm supposed to care so much about music artist X who I've never heard of before.
In terms of YT, most shills are easy to see through. I actually stopped watching one channel when the player basically went on an all-expenses paid vacation with his friend (another YT personality) to promote Just Cause 3. Thankfully, a lot of this kind of promotion is very transparent, but people are surprised when they find out how deep its roots go.
shortsFortallPeople
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it's not very good, especially in a world where DXHR now exists. It was kinda tolerable before DXHR but there's no reason to go back.
It's simply not a very good game anymore, it was a mediocre game even when it came out
Nay. Is truly awful.
Atraveller
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I will buy it, but not now and not at that price, I have RotTR and Dragon's Dogma on my hand, and XCOM 2 at the corner, I'd say my gaming schedule is pretty loaded for the month (even two!).
AHA-Lambda
Member
I still don't understand what this gif is supposed to represent frankly
Yes, do it, it's a good game, the negative reaction it got is way overblown.
It's a big step down from the first but hell I've played far worse RPGs from last gen that got a great reception
Chairmanchuck
Member
I think a bigger problem is, that the audience of a lot of LPers are children/young teens nowadays and they dont actually know or have the capability to see through such scheme.
I am sure if someone like Pewdiepie would recommend Slaughtering Grounds because he got paid by the dev, the game would sell. Such people have a big influence on children/young teens nowadays even more than TV in the 90s, because the children see their LP idols as "friends".
fan-fucking-tasticly animated cake
yeah if your schedules align that's awesome but that's kind of rare
ppl normally work on morning-afternoon and play at night and so sharing is not very useful
this post is confoosing -__-
It grosses me out, actually. Weird.
corrosivefrost
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And yet our very own PepsimanVsJoe gave it a thumbs up in his review.
I didn't like Braid, so I had no trouble avoiding the hype train for The Witness... and I have no compelling urge to go get it right now outside of that, should I decide I'm interested... and with circus that Blow is creating regarding sales and piracy and everything else regarding this game, I'm more than happy to wait for it to be in a humble bundle where I can make sure 100% of my purchase goes to charity.
No. This is GAF. Of course not.
Yes. "Bomba" can go die in the same fire that "meh" is scheduled to burn in.
Indeed.
crazyrabbits
Banned
Yeah, but the whole marketing paradigm has changed. It's far easier to get your message out via a streamer/LP'er who has 100,000+ subscribers and doesn't give a fuck about promoting it - because they're almost always about self-promotion in the first place anyway. Kids will eat it up because they don't know any better and have disposable income, just like the rise of big-budget ads in the 90s. They synergize extremely well with marketing firms who write vain copy.
At least in my neck of the woods, when the marketing firm sent you a list of talking points, you didn't have to follow it at all. Most press releases are thrown out immediately because they're poorly written or extremely fake.
Hero Prinny
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OOH so thats why my batteries died so quick the other day! I fully charged it and when i came back to it at the end of the day it was already dead. I thought my vita's battery was fucked up. Good to know that its actually the os and its fixable.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
I think the one thing that has shocked me the most about Enhanced Steam's success is that I get emails from people like this almost daily that want to me to "partner with their firm" or "take advantage of a lucrative marketing opportunity" which 100% of the time boils down to them wanting to pay me to include their advertising in the extension. I'm even starting to get a lot of these types of offers for Idle Master, in part because it's getting popular but I'm also getting stuff like "simply add our advertisement to the program and prevent the user from minimizing it while it's running and we'll pay you $x,xxx every x days for x clicks." I've even had several offers of tens of thousands of dollars to outright buy the extension and all future publishing rights. How about no?
I had toyed with the idea of adding opt-in advertising to Enhanced Steam (disabled by default, allowing users to enable it in the options if they want to help me support it) but I haven't been able to come across an advertising company that I trust to handle it correctly and provide relevant advertising that people would be interested in ie. games. Google adwords can't be injected using extensions in their TOS, and I actually think that's a good thing overall considering how shady people are with stuff like this.
I'm lucky, I guess, in that I'm not relying on Enhanced Steam and/or Idle Master to pay the bills or put food on the table. Because if I were, I'd be homeless and starving at this point.
the witness steam discussion now has a sub forum called "dumb internet comments" where any criticism of the game goes...
http://steamcommunity.com/app/210970/discussions/1/458607699610335118/
the guy literally explains his issues with some of the puzzles in an articulate manner but is sent into 'dumb internet comments'
jonathan blowhard
http://steamcommunity.com/app/210970/discussions/1/458607699610335118/
the guy literally explains his issues with some of the puzzles in an articulate manner but is sent into 'dumb internet comments'
jonathan blowhard
Chairmanchuck
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Reading this it seems he is complaining that he enters a right answer/right path but it doesnt work.
But he isnt backing up that claim.
The drama around this game is weird to me. Were people very hyped for it or something?
It's probably because I didn't think much of Braid.
I don't know how the game works but it seems rather belittling to your community to move discussions to a sub forum labelled that... the guy might be incorrect in his summation but I don't think it's a particularly "dumb internet comment"
there's also a comment about how the game is not fit for ppl with color blindness that is also in there
seems antagonistic on the part of Blow or whoever runs his steam discussion page
edit: reading some of the other threads there are some pretty trollish topics in there (gamergate type shit) which are dumb internet comments but it just seems ridiculous overall
uncredited male
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Deus Ex: Invisible War is okay. It is not the devil or anything.
I suggest a no-kill run. Except for
of course.
I suggest a no-kill run. Except for
NG Resonance
Hype killed for Bombshell after that review.
Also http://www.destructoid.com/review-bombshell-337527.phtml
Also http://www.destructoid.com/review-bombshell-337527.phtml
crazyrabbits
Banned
My first thought was that he's another Phil Fish. Has a penchant for self-controversy, loves to whine to the press, thinks people are against him if they speak negatively about the game.
They’re Masterworks All, You Can’t Go Wrong
Also, this is the only way we're getting Trails 3rd on PC, right?
I share with a friend in my own city, and have no problems. Sometimes our schedules line up, and sometimes they don't. He also has other hobbies or plays games on consoles, so I can jump in at pretty much any time. If I see him on and he's playing one of my games, then I'll just jump in and play one of his instead.
FiveElementNinja
Member
Johnathan Blow is Phil Fish's alt.
Think about it. Blow... Fish... blowfish.... :O
so, are those psychonauts keys giftable or not?
also my friend made a pretty good the witness review
i like it a lot
i mean, it'd be 100% ok if it was per game, but locking yourself out of your account is pretty bad
also my friend made a pretty good the witness review
i like it a lot
yeah i guess more ppl than i thought use it
i mean, it'd be 100% ok if it was per game, but locking yourself out of your account is pretty bad
remember Kemco game that was on greenlight - Asdivine Hearts
It has a store page now
releases.... stay tuned! ?
I hope that's not no cards and cheevos game, as Alphadia Genesis had both.
That's .... interesting
It has a store page now
releases.... stay tuned! ?
I hope that's not no cards and cheevos game, as Alphadia Genesis had both.
That's .... interesting
*chuckles*
Chairmanchuck
Member
Are these good? I heard they are good as a mobile game, but yeah. Doesnt mean much. That S-E mobile JRPG wouldnt be really good on PC I think.
He's just probably under a lot of stress. He blew a ton of money and put a huge amount of work on the game so he's probably a bit disappointed when people find glitch or stuff they don't like.
CecilRousso
Member
If you start your post in that manner, you kinda deserve to be sent into the depths of the internet. The "no offense but...." method really does works as poorly IRL as it does in sitcoms.
Tizoc
Member
The Psychonauts keys ARE giftable, I just made a giveaway of my code a ew hours ago.
I can say you one thing, whoever tags them casual is insane.
AG is rough, not forgiving or user friendly, as I don't game on mobile, I have not idea how it compares to other mobile games of this type.
Which SE mobile JRPG? I want them on PC, actually, even Final Fantasy Record Keeper and especially Chaos Rings and Dimensions.
That looks actually great, wishlisted.
Hopefully it's a decent port, unlike certain other jRPG I'm playing at the moment. :\
corrosivefrost
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For what?
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And as for the Blow vs. Fish thing... well, that's like Braid vs. Fez... and at that point, it's not even a contest. :lol
Chairmanchuck
Member
Chaos Rings.
It might look like a console-JRPG, but its far too short and easy I think. All 3 episodes would be maybe 5-6 hours.
And on that bombshell..
On the bright side, there's one other bombshell who's putting in the work just fine this weekend.
except he didn't do that? His thesis statement is 'why I don't like this game' and before giving his reasons he mentions common complaints and dismisses them, because they are not the reason he dislikes it.
where does he start by saying "no offense, but" or any allusions to such a phrase?
AHA-Lambda
Member
But is it indie enough to be worth £30?
Jawmuncher
Member
All I know any chance of ever buying the witness has been fading more and more with all of the cocoaine talk.
AHA-Lambda
Member
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I'm assuming this is poor grammar/character count limits but those 2 sentences seem unrelated?
I'm guessing he means a streamer with 3m views is running a pirated copy
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