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[morningbus]

The man who hasn't watched that Tifa Lockheart hentai video is a man who has never truly lived.

That video is also canonical, by the way.

 

[kagamin]

What is a Final Fantasy?

It's at times like this that I realise how large and diverse the sphere of gaming is - I've been playing games for, gee, 30-odd years, and wouldn't have seen more than 5 minutes of gameplay from any Final Fantasy title. I haven't played a minute of them, and have never felt compelled to.

I couldn't tell you anything about them, other than 'there are lots', and that folks feel particularly strongly about which is good (or bad), and why.

It's kinda great that there's a long-enduring franchise this large and influential, that means so much to so many...but that there's so much diverse gaming available that I feel like I haven't missed a thing by not being swept up by it one little bit.

If you like turn-based RPGs

Spoiler

play Dragon Quest instead.

 

[Uzzy]

There is an actual timeline?

What is this Brandon Sanderson Cosmere shit!?

Lightning confirmed for taking Hoid's role.

 

[Momentary]

I'm really excited to see what Degica does with the Code of Princess port. Degica is one of the best companies on STEAM if you ask me. The take pride in what they release to the public an den respond quickly to feed back. They are unsung heroes.

 

[Soulflarz]

There is an actual timeline?

What is this Brandon Sanderson Cosmere shit!?

Lets see here
Omega travels through time and dimensions from FF5. Some people say the omega in FF12 is the earlier iteration of him pre evolution. This doesn't mean anything.
Gilgamesh also travels through time and space, as he is the same recurring character all around. This still doesn't do much for the timeline.

As for connected final fantasies, FF13 is arguably connected to a lot of stuff through bullshit implications at the end, and no one should take this stuff seriously.

The more important one: FF7 takes place after FF10. This is 100% confirmed regardless of how much parts of the fanbase dislike it. The Shinra in FF10-2 is an ancestor of the Shinra company in FF7 after they populate a new world.
Yes, FF7 and FF10 are in the same universe.
edit: relevant quote to that

"After quitting the Gullwings, Shinra received enormous financial support from Rin, and began trying to use Vegnagun to siphon Mako Energy from the Farplane. But, he is unable to complete the system for utilizing this energy in his generation, and in the future, when traveling to distant planets becomes possible, the Shin-Ra Company is founded on another world, or something like that....... That would happen about 1000 years after this story, I think."

 

[Ludens]

Lets see here
Omega travels through time and dimensions from FF5. Some people say the omega in FF12 is the earlier iteration of him pre evolution. This doesn't mean anything.
Gilgamesh also travels through time and space, as he is the same recurring character all around.


As for connected final fantasies, FF13 is arguably connected to a lot of stuff through bullshit implications at the end, and the more important one:

FF7 takes place after FF10. This is 100% confirmed regardless of how much parts of the fanbase dislike it. The shinra in FF10-2 is an ancestor of the Shinra company in FF7 after they populate a new world.

Gilgamesh is not the same character.
It's just a stereotype, like Moogles or Chocobo, if you want pass me the example. Because in some games he is serious, like FFVIII, in other is a comic character, in other something in the middle, like FFVI. There are just iterative elemens in FF games, but there's not a truly connection if not between FFXIII Trilogy and X/X-2 games.
Even the mythology between FFXIII, Type 0 and, apparently, FFXV is similar but it's not the same.
The FFVII world being the same one of FFX it's more like an easter egg than something else. Yes, there were dudes on SE saying they could share the same universe, but that's it, despite that unique easter egg there's nothing else connecting those worlds.
The quote you posted is a hypothesis, since there's nothing hinted at this in the games.

 

[Hektor]

The more important one: FF7 takes place after FF10. This is 100% confirmed regardless of how much parts of the fanbase dislike it. The Shinra in FF10-2 is an ancestor of the Shinra company in FF7 after they populate a new world.
Yes, FF7 and FF10 are in the same universe.
edit: relevant quote to that

The mistake you and others are doing is seeing fanfiction spinoffs as canon.

 

[Backlogger]

Movies based on games are 99% sure to be crap.

Games based on movies as well

 

[AHA-Lambda]

Wait a minute did SE actually get up on stage and say no PC version for FF15?

Seems odd if they did, usually companies would just avoid mentioning something like that on stage :/

 

[Tizoc]

Wait a minute did SE actually get up on stage and say no PC version for FF15?

Seems odd if they did, usually companies would just avoid mentioning something like that on stage :/

Maybe they were worried abut (console)gaf's reaction :v

 

[Kurt Russell]

Wait a minute did SE actually get up on stage and say no PC version for FF15?

Seems odd if they did, usually companies would just avoid mentioning something like that on stage :/

That didn't happen. They just didn't announce the PC version.

 

[Salsa]

btw there's a Batman fight scene in BvS where he uses almost all of Arkham's games moves and gadgets. straight up weapon disruptors, vertical takedown, double parry, knife dodge

it's so obvious it's made from that that its weird to see

 

[orochi91]

Wait a minute did SE actually get up on stage and say no PC version for FF15?

Seems odd if they did, usually companies would just avoid mentioning something like that on stage :/

They'll release it eventually.

They're targeting filthy double-dippers like me.

D:

 

[Soulflarz]

The mistake you and others are doing is seeing fanfiction spinoffs as canon.

pls x-2 is canon
if you meant LR, I don't want to analyze that, I'll wait till someone calls me out and says it's officially relating to games X and Y and then pretend I care about lightning.

Gilgamesh is not the same character.
It's just a stereotype, like Moogles or Chocobo, if you want pass me the example. Because in some games he is serious, like FFVIII, in other is a comic character, in other something in the middle, like FFVI. There are just iterative elemens in FF games, but there's not a truly connection if not between FFXIII Trilogy and X/X-2 games.
Even the mythology between FFXIII, Type 0 and, apparently, FFXV is similar but it's not the same.
The FFVII world being the same one of FFX it's more like an easter egg than something else. Yes, there were dudes on SE saying they could share the same universe, but that's it, despite that unique easter egg there's nothing else connecting those worlds.
The quote you posted is a hypothesis, since there's nothing hinted at this in the games.

Gilgamesh hardly matters because there isn't much of an opinion either way. But no, hes not recurring like "moogles" or such, since he openly jokes about coming from other worlds, he's not simply recurring.

FF13, Type 0, and FFXV share mythology because they're in the same overarching universe of Nova Crystallis - if Tabata for some awful reason wants to connect the dots, he probably could, but I have no idea why he would want to. They were originally supposed to be more connected in plot actually.
edit: I'm not saying these games are in connected worlds or anything, just that their base mythos is the same.

And regarding FF7 to FF10 - no, that's not a hypothesis. FF7 and FF10 are in the same world regardless of the actual games not directly hinting at it, per the Ultimania books (Omega and X-2) saying it. And by saying it, I mean Nojima himself saying it >_>
So yeah, that's official series canon.

 

[Hektor]

They'll release it eventually.

They're targeting filthy double-dippers like me.

D:

I feel you.

I'd buy it on Ouya if i had to.

 

[Knurek]

JaseC, why are you stalking poor MS astroturfers?
Don't you know Microsoft has only your best interest in mind. Like, no cheating due to rogue DLL injectors. No keyloggers that steal your Chrome passwords. No exclusive fullscreen so that you don't inadvertently damage your monitor...

 

[AHA-Lambda]

That didn't happen. They just didn't announce the PC version.

Right gotcha. The impression I was getting was that they outright said it at the event :/

 

[BoosterDuck]

lol Hyper Light Drifter launch botched

I'm going to bed

 

[kagamin]

Dragon Quest universe wise is so much easier to understand, what with 1, 2 and 3 all being a part of their own thing, and 4,5 and 6 their own thing, and the others is anyone's guess.

 

[Salsa]

Dragon Quest is so much better in every and always has been. It's the soul that keeps jRPGs as an interesting timeless genre at it's core, which thankfully didnt follow in FFs steps of ruining it

yeah I agree

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

I should actually watch Spirits Within. I'll do that tonight.

 

[Tizoc]

Ya'll should go read up about the continuity and lore of the Nasuverse/melty blood

 

[Soulflarz]

I prefer Legend of Heroes
where 1/2 are an arc
3/4/5 are an arc

now it gets fun
6/6/6 are an arc
7/7 are an arc
and then two that aren't numbered are an arc

and these are all connected anyways. Why did they make arcs take multiple and then one number slot? Who knows!

 

[AHA-Lambda]

lol Hyper Light Drifter launch botched

I'm going to bed

Oh god, what happened? :/

 

[Salsa]

I should actually watch Spirits Within. I'll do that tonight.

you got a planet of the apes marathon to attend ya creep

Oh god, what happened? :/

nothing. It's a bit late like every steam game ever

 

[kagamin]

yeah I agree

I love Dragon Quest.

 

[Soulflarz]

I've never played DQ

And I know, "go play them!!"
;-;

I think my backlog will end me one day

 

[Pachimari]

No it wasn't. It's worse than Spirits Within by a fair margin, and neither are particularly good.

I really loved Advent Children. \ (•◡&#8226

And Final Fantasy X-2 is canon. So is Lightning Returns I would imagine?

 

[Salsa]

I just remembered the game has no english text in it and it's all game world cues and clues

excitement 10x

 

[Salsa]

there's a fucking 80s Super Meat Boy-style trailer for Dark Souls III now, and it's official

Souls marketing team: THROW SHIT AT THE WALL SEE WHAT STICKS

 

[Se7enSword]

Ya'll should go read up about the continuity and lore of the Nasuverse/melty blood

No. That's too convoluted at times.

 

[kagamin]

Ya'll should go read up about the continuity and lore of the Nasuverse/melty blood

 

[AHA-Lambda]

there's a fucking 80s Super Meat Boy-style trailer for Dark Souls III now, and it's official

Souls marketing team: THROW SHIT AT THE WALL SEE WHAT STICKS

You mean you don't like the Dark Souls chicken wings??

 

[JaseC]

JaseC, why are you stalking poor MS astroturfers?
Don't you know Microsoft has only your best interest in mind. Like, no cheating due to rogue DLL injectors. No keyloggers that steal your Chrome passwords. No exclusive fullscreen so that you don't inadvertently damage your monitor...

I realise you're at least mostly kidding, but as I explained, I didn't stalk him. His GAF homepage is his website and he's linked to his Steam profile in the past (which uses his GAF name). I do admit that I checked his Steam profile after he said he'd stop using Steam following the Christmas Day caching issue, but only because comments like that tend to come from people who don't actually use Steam, and, hey, I was right.

 

[bobnowhere]

New Groupees Be Mine coming soon...ish.

Looks like the headliner is Divinia Chronicles: Relics of Gan-Ti

 

[darkwing-buck]

there's a fucking 80s Super Meat Boy-style trailer for Dark Souls III now, and it's official

Souls marketing team: THROW SHIT AT THE WALL SEE WHAT STICKS

raaaad

 

[mrgone]

there's a fucking 80s Super Meat Boy-style trailer for Dark Souls III now, and it's official

Souls marketing team: THROW SHIT AT THE WALL SEE WHAT STICKS

Seems like an homage to this video. I thought it actually was that guy's work until I read the comments.

 

[Knurek]

I realise you're at least mostly kidding, but as I explained, I didn't stalk him. His GAF homepage is his website and he's linked to his Steam profile in the past (which uses his GAF name). I do admit that I checked his Steam profile after he said he'd stop using Steam following the Christmas Day caching issue, but only because comments like that tend to come from people who don't actually use Steam, and, hey, I was right.

I think you're just using one of those browser mods packed with viruses made using illicit and forbidden programming technique to dox this info.
In conclusion you are a computer black wizard and should be burnt on stake to a cheering crowd of MS supporters.

 

[Deques]

New Groupees Be Mine coming soon...ish.

Looks like the headliner is Divinia Chronicles: Relics of Gan-Ti

At this point I am not excited anymore on new groupees be mine bundles. The games get less and less interesting for each new bundle they release

Edit
Nep nep 1 update:
Finished chapter 7, only last chapter left and then I finally beat the game
Which of the CPU candidates should I unlock first?

 

[Tizoc]

New Groupees Be Mine coming soon...ish.

Looks like the headliner is Divinia Chronicles: Relics of Gan-Ti

Hmm game looks interesting

 

[Arthea]

you can say whatever you want, Spirits Within is a good movie and it looked like a damn marvel back then, it still looks impressive if you remember its age.
IDK why people didn't go to see it, it made no sense to me, as it being supposedly horrible opinions. Where do these people even come from? Do they even watch movies? Which movies they compared it to, to find it this bad? Nothing made sense, nothing!
Then again life in general doesn't, like for example, in spite of buying SE games just fine (on PC), we still will have to wait for FF15 PC release goddess knows how long.
As I said, nothing makes sense!

 

[JaseC]

I think you're just using one of those browser mods packed with viruses made using illicit and forbidden programming technique to dox this info.
In conclusion you are a computer black wizard and should be burnt on stake to a cheering crowd of MS supporters.

I think this is the premise of The Crucible. Adjusted for the 21st century.

 

[NingenJanai]

you can say whatever you want, Spirits Within is a good movie and it looked like a damn marvel back then, it still looks impressive if you remember its age.
IDK why people didn't go to see it, it made no sense to me, as it being supposedly horrible opinions. Where do these people even come from? Do they even watch movies? Which movies they compared it to, to find it this bad? Nothing made sense, nothing!
Then again life in general doesn't, like for example, in spite of buying SE games just fine (on PC), we still will have to wait for FF15 PC release goddess knows how long.
As I said, nothing makes sense!

I agree

 

[Deques]

you can say whatever you want, Spirits Within is a good movie and it looked like a damn marvel back then, it still looks impressive if you remember its age.
IDK why people didn't go to see it, it made no sense to me, as it being supposedly horrible opinions. Where do these people even come from? Do they even watch movies? Which movies they compared it to, to find it this bad? Nothing made sense, nothing!
Then again life in general doesn't, like for example, in spite of buying SE games just fine (on PC), we still will have to wait for FF15 PC release goddess knows how long.
As I said, nothing makes sense!

I liked Spirits Within, it didn't felt like a Final Fantasy but the movie was ok. Same with Advent Children, nothing wrong with it. But who cares? My opinion means nothing to you :/

 

[zkylon]

i remember thinking the movie was watchable but not what i wanted out of a final fantasy movie

and i thought i knew what i wanted until i watched advent children and boy i was wrong. advent children is 100% on my list of the worst movies i've ever watched, and i've watched so many movies

i can't remember much about spirit within right now, but if i watch a final fantasy movie i want the iconography at least to be there in some shape or form. i want moogles and chocobos, i want the music to feel like final fantasy music, that kind of stuff.

i feel that's what the movie failed to deliver for me back then but i may be wrong, i can't really remember much about it

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

I think this is the premise of The Crucible. Adjusted for the 21st century.

Only because Saoirse.

Spoiler

I fucking love Miller, though. And Beckett. I was an English major. Shut up.

 

[neonglow]

New Groupees Be Mine coming soon...ish.

Looks like the headliner is Divinia Chronicles: Relics of Gan-Ti

Which Groupee bundles are the generally good ones and which are ones to stay away? I picked up Be Mine Anniversary 3 bundle earlier and that turned out well.

 

[Arthea]

i remember thinking the movie was watchable but not what i wanted out of a final fantasy movie

and i thought i knew what i wanted until i watched advent children and boy i was wrong. advent children is 100% on my list of the worst movies i've ever watched, and i've watched so many movies

i can't remember much about spirit within right now, but if i watch a final fantasy movie i want the iconography at least to be there in some shape or form. i want moogles and chocobos, i want the music to feel like final fantasy music, that kind of stuff.

i feel that's what the movie failed to deliver for me back then but i may be wrong, i can't really remember much about it

but that's the thing making least sense!
FF fans were raging about more mature FF for years, they got Spirits Within, no cutesy, no nonsense, just a good mature movie with deep roots into FF, as for example Gaia,

Spoiler

the planets being alive and semisentient

, it even had Cid! Yet, not only people fail to recognize it as a FF movie, it very much is, trust me on this, but they hated it. Shows very well that people really don't know what they want.
As for Advent Children, it is a horrid movie true, but action scenes are insane and fun and it's an eye candy to be sure, I had no problems with watching it, I was entertained enough, but it's no Spirits Within, it's hardly even a movie more like two hour long trailer to post FF7 world.

getting back to steam business, no FF9 on steam for this event either. So what SE is waiting for exactly?

Which Groupee bundles are the generally good ones and which are ones to stay away? I picked up Be Mine Anniversary 3 bundle earlier and that turned out well.

Be Mine are better ones, but if you think preoders it's still a lottery, there was at least one BM bundle that wasn't all that good.

 

[Chairmanchuck]

The screenshots people post from the demo look so bad. It looks like a PS3 game...

 

[Tizoc]

The screenshots people post from the demo look so bad. It looks like a PS3 game...

Well itndid start as a ps3 game