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STEAM | March 2017 - IT'S MAHVEL BAYBEE!!!
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Seems Jim has completed his visit:
Wrapped with Valve. Seen and consulted on future Steam plans. I believe valuable ideas were exchanged.
Wrapped with Valve. Seen and consulted on future Steam plans. I believe valuable ideas were exchanged.
Finished Nier Automata in about 13 hours (couple of endings a bit of sidequests, just a couple of bosses...). Well... that was maybe a bit too short... :/
Usuallly I'm in the range of "main + extras" / leisure in howlongtobeat (it's almost 55 hours there), but... I don't know... :/ what happened? :O
Length apart it's a very good game, loved the settings, the battle system + management, and the soundtrack. But really, 13 hours... I've played it just for two days (ok, lengthy session in the past weekend but still)...
I know there's a gazillion endings, but I'm not that interested in finding the ones I'm missing... oh well...
At least I'm happy it's selling very good, that's great since it should show clearly the message "day one: you got more sales, and you make the best earnings", opposed to "one year later port, let's hope there are enough double dippers and a third of a price is an enjoyable offering".
...
But.
WHERE IS FIRE PRO WRESTLING? :O
Usuallly I'm in the range of "main + extras" / leisure in howlongtobeat (it's almost 55 hours there), but... I don't know... :/ what happened? :O
Length apart it's a very good game, loved the settings, the battle system + management, and the soundtrack. But really, 13 hours... I've played it just for two days (ok, lengthy session in the past weekend but still)...
I know there's a gazillion endings, but I'm not that interested in finding the ones I'm missing... oh well...
At least I'm happy it's selling very good, that's great since it should show clearly the message "day one: you got more sales, and you make the best earnings", opposed to "one year later port, let's hope there are enough double dippers and a third of a price is an enjoyable offering".
...
But.
WHERE IS FIRE PRO WRESTLING? :O
Jawmuncher
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That's cool. Hope for an episode of talking too. While you can't say it was all one man. He definitely has done a lot (with the help of fans) of shaping greenlight
But Greenlight has only become less of a barrier over time, which is the opposite of what Jim wants.
Jawmuncher
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Well more in bringing light to a lot of garbage that snuck through, or odd practices. Such as the Airport Simulator BS terms of service.
Pls ignore him Valve
But that just brings the games more exposure, which is also the opposite of what Jim wants.
Games are pulled for policy violations, not for being awful or ethically questionable. If anything, I think his pursuit to have Valve engage in a higher level of oversight over Steam's release pipeline has been self-destructive in the sense that he's been shining a spotlight on games that would otherwise just fly under the radar -- something that isn't really necessary anymore now that Steam has a universal refund policy and the community is very quick to report/shame games with manipulated reviews, stolen assets, etc.Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Hey, speaking of ModBot giveaways, I wanted to let you guys know that some time in the last few weeks ModBot passed 75,000 items giveaway away. Whether it's credit for online stores, beta codes, bundle turds, birthday gifts, high value launch giveaways, or that time someone gave away a brand new sealed in box cell phone, I am consistently humbled and proud at the community's charity and enthusiasm. The total value of goods given away is north of $10,000 even if they were all bundle turds, but actually I suspect it's probably something closer to $100,000 in total value. This is insane.
I've programmed professionally for a very long time, and I've run a lot of money-losing code endeavours because I get personal satisfaction from making things people use, but this is probably the project I've worked on that has been used more than anything else I've ever made and I am just truly grateful that years after the idea was born, ModBot is more popular than ever by some regards. Thank you, again.
I've programmed professionally for a very long time, and I've run a lot of money-losing code endeavours because I get personal satisfaction from making things people use, but this is probably the project I've worked on that has been used more than anything else I've ever made and I am just truly grateful that years after the idea was born, ModBot is more popular than ever by some regards. Thank you, again.
Sometimes he's a bit too passionate with shovelware and even worst passing through.
But Greenlight has been really abused...
Who needs a shitty internet rent or download, when you own the BD release?! Stay losing Steam!
Pretty much. Curation is not the answer, and I believe Valve knows this well enough. Steam Greenlight had its share of problems, but opening up the gates to the store wasn't one of them.
You worked on ModBot? That's awesome.
Good on Gaffers being generous, I haven't been generous in a looooong time.
"Watching [app name]", if memory serves. Similarly, software is "Using [app name]".
Yes everybody will see the smut you're watching.
Kurt Russell
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Did you do A, B, C and D? As far as I know, in order to really see the cool things the game has to offer, you gotta do all those.
curation is shit. I don't need any random dudes at Valve deciding what I can or can't buy. If anything the floodgates need to be opened further.
Thanks to you, sir !
This. If you haven't done endings A through E, you haven't finished the game.
Just A from the main endings, but I feel I'm not very interested in the others...
ramoisdead
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I agree with this. I like Jim Sterling and I find him entertaining but stricter curation isn't the answer. All games of any type of genre should be welcomed. I wouldn't want a situation like what happened to Cook, Serve, Delicious! and GOG. Better customer service from Valve would be ideal.
If it means anything, your modbot efforts have made me quite happy. Courtesy of anno, earlier this month i managed to get Hollow Knight, which turned out to be a monumental surprise to me and now one of my favourite games of all time. I've been guided towards a lot of different types of games I didn't consider exploring thanks to this system too.
Equally in the other direction, I like the ability to give something to folks that i know will value them (in most cases). Many thanks for the efforts Stump!
Thank you Stump.
You worked on ModBot? That's awesome.
Good on Gaffers being generous, I haven't been generous in a looooong time.
More than worked on.
Yeah, you haven't finished the game dude. That's why it feels short.
There's more to the other routes than just a different ending. Just load your clear save and you'll immediately see what I mean.
Kurt Russell
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The game changes A LOT from ending A to the other ones (not just the endings, the whole game)
But that just brings the games more exposure, which is also the opposite of what Jim wants.
I agree with both of you.
I think Valve needs a consistent prod for many issues, and I think Valve tend to work in that way. I do wonder what effect either would have had without the other doing something. At least to me it seems Valve has been more engaged with all that stuff lately than say a few years ago
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Snakethesniper
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Keep playing. You should consider Ending A as "Part 1" of the game
I understand the feeling "someone should not judge what I should play", but there's really a lot of stuff that's not aimed to give pleasure to any kind of player but just money to the developer.
Ie: there's really a lot of stuff that's aimed to make money from cards and low tier bundles, and since just one game is not enough, let's flood dat steam!
I doubt a random dude can manage everything, but I'd like at least some check to avoid embarassing situations.
For a developer too (of games, not trash aimed for bundles and cards only), I think that releasing your game without it being submerged by shovelware stuff releasing the same day is a better opportunity.
Yeah, you haven't finished the game dude. That's why it feels short.
There's more to the other routes than just a different ending. Just load your clear save and you'll immediately see what I mean.
Ok, ok, I'll try other endings
Thanks for your suggestions!But still I'm a bit puzzled (at least now).
As someone who has benefited a lot from Modbot giveaways, big thanks to you Stump for all your hard work and to steamGAF for your amazing generosity!
Yeah, it's great that Valve is engaging prominent members of the community for a dialogue about how Steam can be improved, even if I don't agree with Jim's desire for tighter curation (not that I think Valve would head in that direction again, anyway).
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Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Absolutely agree that community engagement is something Valve has been missing out on over the course of the last few years that I've been paying attention. But, I've been in similar talks with them a few years back so I can say there is a pretty high likelihood this amounts to nothing.
SunDimension24
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AAA means nothing, it's just the amount of money spent.
Surely, AAA seems to follow the safest route (copy pasta?) but when something really good happens, there's really good stuff to play. Not according to my taste, but still! ^__^
Coreda
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I think we can all appreciate the usefulness of the tool and the value it's brought to the SteamGAF community and GAF more broadly. Congrats 🍻
Yeah same thoughts. On topic, this little tidbit came out, which surprises me:
Q - Have you taken the Digital Homicide's dossier from Valve HQ too? Kinda interested in the whole thing.
A - No but we discussed studios like that and I'm pleased with what I heard.
Quite pleased indeed.
Ok, ok, I'll try other endings
But still I'm a bit puzzled (at least now).
You'll understand as soon as you start route B. And if it helps motivate you to keep going, I'll just say this: I thought route B was the least interesting part of the game but route C turned it into one of my favorite games ever. From there, getting the last two endings doesn't require as much time as the first three so you only really need to do 3 playthroughs.
Yeah, scepticism is fair, however given the content they produce, I'd wager Jim and John were invited over primarily to offer some input on Steam's release pipeline (i.e. Steam Direct) and its recommendation systems, which are two areas where Valve is much more active in recent times. Steam Direct launching alongside another Discovery Update seems like a safe bet.
That's how I've been feeling, too. I've been working my way through some of the big released from the last console generation and I've been kind of bored. Went through GTAIV and found it to be utterly forgettable. Saints Row 3 and 4 had a few good moments here and there, but I was just itching for them to be over by the end. Far Cry 3 just felt half-baked.
I did like Just Cause 2, but I got bored with it way before getting 100 percent, and JC3 was a bit of a step down overall aside from the graphics and the new toys.
I've still got a few in the backlog, like BioShock and Deus Ex, so here's hoping I'll have better luck with more linear games.
Guys whats up with CPUcores http://store.steampowered.com/app/384300/ does it do anything, sounds interesting in concept.
The little problem is I'm pretty limited with gaming, my playtime on steam is usually idlemaster or my daughter playing! ^__^
Playing again the same single player game slightly changing my route is not that appealing to me (usually I play jrpgs for about 100 hours, even if it costs me months, or years
ie loved Xenogears and Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne back in the days).Anyway, I'll try to get other endings
As a fellow winner of Hollow Knight who was also caught by surprise and blown away by it I just want to echo this. Thank you for modbot and to all those who have been generous.
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