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[Dr.Acula]

Metroidvania is when Castlevania introduced Metroid-style exploration and ability upgrades to their games. Metroidvanias also refer to games that are like Metroid, but also include the RPG elements that Castlevania introduced like XP and an expanded inventory system.

Hollow Knight seems more like a Metroid-like than a Metroidvania so far (4 hrs in).

But Metroidvania, connected not just to Hollow Knight, but prefiguring Hollow Knight in a causal sense, means that basically any post-SotN side-scoller with branching paths and any kind of upgrade system is a Metroidvania.

 

[Axass]

Honestly, I think that XP isn't a focal point of "metroidvania" games; also I don't think they have to necessarily be 2D sidescrollers. Quoting myself on what I think of it:

Metroidvania defines the structure of the game, not the main gameplay mechanics. The structure could be summed up as "traversing huge interconnected worlds with relative freedom and possible sequence-breaking, having to backtrack and unlock new areas and items thanks to newly acquired powers"

The gameplay mechanics and the genre change accordingly; all of these are "metroidvania" games as far as structure goes, but with different twists:

- Outland: action platformer (with a sprinkle of bullet hell)
- Guacamelee: beat 'em up / platformer
- Metroid: shoot 'em up / platformer
- Metroid Prime: fps
- Castlevania: hack 'n' slash / rpg
- Infinitely Twisted Shadow Planet: arcade flying / shooter
- Kirby and the Amazing Mirror: puzzle platformer / action platformer
- Ori: platformer

Now I'd add to it Hollow Knight: action platformer / souls-like

 

[Purkake4]

Any idea if dlgamer.eu is legit?

 

[Lain]

Lightning's bust is on sale on SE store, so you all can also own 1 just like I do

I've been playing Legend of the Skyfish and while it's a cute game, it is a bit too simple for my taste, gameplay wise.
My opinion of it stays positive overall, but I'd say it's a good game for young kids or just to relax.

 

[Tizoc]

Any idea if dlgamer.eu is legit?

Dlgamer is legit i bought from them before
Note that while it is a bit of an oddly organized website they have a few dcent prices like king's quest 2015 complete

 

[Belgarion]

Anyone else has an issue where some games refuse to update completely?

That's what happens when I click "play" on the affected games (trying to update them normally just triggers the update process for a second, then the games go back to "queued")

Happened to me yesterday, but I was using the beta client so switching to the normal version fixed it.

 

[Kurt Russell]

Happened to me yesterday, but I was using the beta client so switching to the normal version fixed it.

I'm using the normal version, maybe switching to beta and back will fix it. Thanks!

 

[Hakkelus]

New trailer for The Signal from Tölva
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq06L0KbYgU
Steam also changed the date from "2017" to "April 2017"

Looks interesting.

 

[Belgarion]

I'm using the normal version, maybe switching to beta and back will fix it. Thanks!

Just opened Steam and I have the same problem, switched download region to US - Miami and now its working.

Maybe because we both are from Argentina and our server is not working properly?

 

[xist]

I've just finished Mass Effect for the first time and in all honesty I was getting a little bored of it up until the last half hour or so. Aside from the culmination of the plot it all felt a little one note, with little in the way of peaks and troughs to drive the story, no real epic sci-fi grandeur to drive the game (and characters) along. Everything felt sort of self-contained, and even though the threat was supposed to be worrying it never felt very ominous or imposing. The final arc suddenly recaptured the whole point of the journey and I kind of wish there were more points where I felt involved. Also the repeated re-use of maps got old fast, as did the Mako sections.

I've imported my character in Mass Effect 2 and have played about 30 minutes....it already seems to be doing a better job of engaging me so let's see how this all plays out (I know nothing about how this one and the third play out so it's all a big surprise....)

 

[Kurt Russell]

Just opened Steam and I have the same problem, switched download region to US - Miami and now its working.

Maybe because we both are from Argentina and our server is not working properly?

Oh, I didn't think about that. Yeah, that fixed it!

Thanks!

 

[Rhaknar]

already love everything about Steamworld Heist just from the tutorial level

 

[Jalal]

Metroidvania is when Castlevania introduced Metroid-style exploration and ability upgrades to their games. Metroidvanias also refer to games that are like Metroid, but also include the RPG elements that Castlevania introduced like XP and an expanded inventory system.

Hollow Knight seems more like a Metroid-like than a Metroidvania so far (4 hrs in).

But Metroidvania, connected not just to Hollow Knight, but prefiguring Hollow Knight in a causal sense, means that basically any post-SotN side-scoller with branching paths and any kind of upgrade system is a Metroidvania.

Good to know the distinction.

I just finished Guacamelee Gold. Definitely one of those genre's that never gets old.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Wbacon, don't even bother bringing SF2 to PC if you're gonna charge $40 for it

 

[Tizoc]

Wbacon, don't even bother bringing SF2 to PC if you're gonna charge $40 for it

hyper sf2 for $20 please~

 

[QFNS]

holy cow, $40 for that Ultra SF2 on switch. That's just insane. That game seems like a romhack, like some Rainbow edition shit and they are charging $40 (!!) for that. Just crazy.

I thought them bringing out Marvel on Steam for $35 was crazy. That's at least played competitively still, this is 20 (?) years old. Just wowowowowowow. The online for this is gonna be like 5 people total.

 

[MadGear]

Wbacon, don't even bother bringing SF2 to PC if you're gonna charge $40 for it

Oh, I thought you were joking ... that's just crazy. But I guess the only time you can get away with something like this is during a console launch, especially one with a (imo) "weak" software lineup.

 

[Nzyme32]

Wbacon, don't even bother bringing SF2 to PC if you're gonna charge $40 for it

Oh, I thought you were joking ... that's just crazy. But I guess the only time you can get away with something like this is during a console launch, especially one with a (imo) "weak" software lineup.

I also thought you were joking. That's absolutely absurd. Looking at most of the Switch games, the price is just ridiculous to me. Definitely leaving them till they are much cheaper

 

[GoldandBlue]

holy cow, $40 for that Ultra SF2 on switch. That's just insane. That game seems like a romhack, like some Rainbow edition shit and they are charging $40 (!!) for that. Just crazy.

I thought them bringing out Marvel on Steam for $35 was crazy. That's at least played competitively still, this is 20 (?) years old. Just wowowowowowow. The online for this is gonna be like 5 people total.

Don't forget that totally awesome and not janky looking fist person mode. I'm sure they felt that mode increases the value of it.

 

[C4rter]

I've imported my character in Mass Effect 2 and have played about 30 minutes....it already seems to be doing a better job of engaging me so let's see how this all plays out (I know nothing about how this one and the third play out so it's all a big surprise....)

I got bored with ME2 after around 10 or 12 hours because of how similar the missions were and how little I cared for most of my crew because they were annoying me with their "special" missions. So good luck in putting up with it.

 

[Knurek]

I got bored with ME2 after around 10 or 12 hours because of how similar the missions were and how little I cared for most of my crew because they were annoying me with their "special" missions. So good luck in putting up with it.

We have a confirmed sociopath here, folks.

Spoiler

Kidding aside, ME2 has the best NPCs of all RPGs I've played.

 

[jtb]

the Mass Effect games are sooo repetitive. boring encounter design. extreme linearity. as a big BG2/KOTOR fan, the series was probably my biggest disappointment of the generation.

We have a confirmed sociopath here, folks.

Spoiler

Kidding aside, ME2 has the best NPCs of all RPGs I've played.

tsk tsk

 

[Vuze]

the Mass Effect games are sooo repetitive. boring encounter design. extreme linearity. as a big BG2/KOTOR fan, the series was probably my biggest disappointment of the generation.

Yeah, tbh I never grew to like any of them either. Just as with Witcher 3 I got bored/sick of the gameplay real quick.

 

[QFNS]

Don't forget that totally awesome and not janky looking fist person mode. I'm sure they felt that mode increases the value of it.

Yeah you're right, how could we forget! I'm sure that will be a separate online hopper though so there will only be 3 people online now the other 2 are in first person (LOLOLOLOLOL)

 

[Cth]

I could have swore I had this on my wishlist.. thanks for the reminder. Looks like I subbed to the OT.

 

[Grief.exe]

Honestly, I think that XP isn't a focal point of "metroidvania" games; also I don't think they have to necessarily be 2D sidescrollers. Quoting myself on what I think of it:

Metroidvania defines the structure of the game, not the main gameplay mechanics. The structure could be summed up as "traversing huge interconnected worlds with relative freedom and possible sequence-breaking, having to backtrack and unlock new areas and items thanks to newly acquired powers"

The gameplay mechanics and the genre change accordingly; all of these are "metroidvania" games as far as structure goes, but with different twists:

- Outland: action platformer (with a sprinkle of bullet hell)
- Guacamelee: beat 'em up / platformer
- Metroid: shoot 'em up / platformer
- Metroid Prime: fps
- Castlevania: hack 'n' slash / rpg
- Infinitely Twisted Shadow Planet: arcade flying / shooter
- Kirby and the Amazing Mirror: puzzle platformer / action platformer
- Ori: platformer

Now I'd add to it Hollow Knight: action platformer / souls-like

I agree with this definition. I believe you could also add Dust: An Elysian Tail to your list.

 

[zebez]

Yeah, tbh I never grew to like any of them either. Just as with Witcher 3 I got bored/sick of the gameplay real quick.

I'm replaying the games now before andromeda, and I gotta agree the gameplay isn't what I remembered. Currently on ME2 and I just put the difficulty on casual so I can burn throught the combat. The dialog and story I still find really enjoyable though.

 

[Unai]

Metroidvania is a stupid category name.

 

[Rhaknar]

Metroidvania is a stupid category name.

sure, but its evocative and you know what it entails. "is it level based? no its a metroidvania"

anyway, Bundlestars new Tempest bundle has Evoland 2 in it, which is all sorts of fantastic.

 

[Jalal]

Metroidvania is a stupid category name.

"No longer linear, not yet open world."

"Backtracking"

"Get ready to lose all this stuff in the sequel"

Thats all I got for now.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

Right ok, I'm sold, will buy Stories Untold

Spoiler

after I finish Torment

 

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Bioshock 2 -- MB-B626D0B4B96407BA - Taken by fifasnipe2224

So, this is a GFWL code for Bioshock 2 I found today, I don't know if it's still valid, but I think it's worth a try I guess.

 

[Leafhopper]

March thread already up? Yeah I suppose it is time. Again please buy Pocket Rumble people, it's a good game.

I might get Turok 2, I really did enjoy that on the N64.

 

[D3RANG3D]

:3

 

[jtb]

I'm curious.

Would you guys consider FTL to be an RPG?

(please don't just say "it's a roguelike" as if that makes it mutually exclusive from being an RPG, considering roguelikes' tabletop lineage)

 

[gngf123]

I consider FTL to be more of a strategy game than an RPG, but it has elements of it, sure.

 

[xist]

I always thought of FTL as a management sim.

 

[Abomination]

I'm curious.

Would you guys consider FTL to be an RPG?

(please don't just say "it's a roguelike" as if that makes it mutually exclusive from being an RPG, considering roguelikes' tabletop lineage)

It is not a roguelike, but a "spaceship simulation roguelike-like" according to Subset Games. I think they nailed it.

 

[Tizoc]

Stump alert
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/mhrd

 

[Dinjoralo]

Stump alert
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/mhrd

I think this is a me alert, too.

 

[Wok]

Stump alert
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/mhrd

Very Positive reviews on Steam.

 

[pantsattack]

New trailer for The Signal from Tölva
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq06L0KbYgU
Steam also changed the date from "2017" to "April 2017"

Yes, interesting. I wondered what that studio was doing after Sir, YABH. Seems like Sir meets Destiny maybe. I never played that.

 

[TheMadMan007]

I've been so busy lately and I'll finally have some time to play games for the first time in over a month.... ummm is Horizon Zero Dawn not for PC? I thought it was, but I don't see it on the steam store.

 

[r3n4ud]

I've been so busy lately and I'll finally have some time to play games for the first time in over a month.... ummm is Horizon Zero Dawn not for PC? I thought it was, but I don't see it on the steam store.

wut

 

[QFNS]

Stump alert
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/mhrd

This just looks like a slightly game-ified version of courses I took in college. I should probably play it then cause I will know most of the answers!

 

[AHA-Lambda]

I've been so busy lately and I'll finally have some time to play games for the first time in over a month.... ummm is Horizon Zero Dawn not for PC? I thought it was, but I don't see it on the steam store.

?

It's a Sony owned IP made by one of their internal studios

 

[bbd23]

I've been so busy lately and I'll finally have some time to play games for the first time in over a month.... ummm is Horizon Zero Dawn not for PC? I thought it was, but I don't see it on the steam store.

https://gfycat.com/PepperyOfficialFalcon

 

[Nyoro SF]

Wbacon, don't even bother bringing SF2 to PC if you're gonna charge $40 for it

Daaaaaaaamn lol.

Wbacon, forget about USF2 and bring Power Stone Collection to PC. I will pay $40 for that.

 

[MUnited83]

I've been so busy lately and I'll finally have some time to play games for the first time in over a month.... ummm is Horizon Zero Dawn not for PC? I thought it was, but I don't see it on the steam store.

You can indeed play it on PC

Spoiler

by using the Remote Play app

 

[Vazra]

Daaaaaaaamn lol.

Wbacon, forget about USF2 and bring Power Stone Collection to PC. I will pay $40 for that.

Make it online and make PS1 port based on Dreamcast and not the PSP version.