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STEAM | October 2014 - Proper PC gamers buy a Wii U and Bayonetta 2

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jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
FF3 always looks tempting whenever I see it on sale.

But that final dungeon. Not worth it.

The PC version is not nearly as bad as the other iterations. If you ALT+F4 out of a battle before you are completely dead, you restart at the last doorway you went through. It's kind of like an "auto-save" system and it made the last dungeon actually enjoyable.
 
The PC version is not nearly as bad as the other iterations. If you ALT+F4 out of a battle before you are completely dead, you restart at the last doorway you went through. It's kind of like an "auto-save" system and it made the last dungeon actually enjoyable.

Oh? Hmm.

Might wait for a 75% off sale then. Of course I expect S-E to fix the game by then.
 
FF3 always looks tempting whenever I see it on sale.

But that final dungeon. Not worth it.

Yeah, I heard about that... Hasn't anyone come up with a mod to allow quicksaves or something? Really sucks having to avoid this game because of that.

Edit:

The PC version is not nearly as bad as the other iterations. If you ALT+F4 out of a battle before you are completely dead, you restart at the last doorway you went through. It's kind of like an "auto-save" system and it made the last dungeon actually enjoyable.

Is that so? Interesting.
 

Dr Dogg

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The PC version is not nearly as bad as the other iterations. If you ALT+F4 out of a battle before you are completely dead, you restart at the last doorway you went through. It's kind of like an "auto-save" system and it made the last dungeon actually enjoyable.

That's cheating!
 

jblank83

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God damn, I've just beaten the Bayonetta 2 demo… What a game.

Such a shame I missed on the first edition :/

Bayonetta 2 comes with a full version of Bayonetta 1, so there you go.


There's still a chance, should you and your friends and everyone sign the Sega PC port petition going on... ;)

No, there isn't. Nintendo funded development, participated in development, and has the final say on where it will and won't be seen.

http://nintendoeverything.com/kamiy...roubled-fate-and-how-nintendo-saved-the-game/
 

aku:jiki

Member
Speaking of 30v60fps... Today, the OT taught me that 60fps porn is a thing. I don't think I have time for games anymore.

If only they stacked!
You know... They really should stack. I bet they could find a hell of a lot of angles for profit if they allowed people to chase down 5x20% to get a game for free.
 

Purkake4

Banned
"Hello Pete"
closeupgaben.jpg

"I want to play a game"

Well um okay Gaben



Praising intensifies.




fucking hell
At least they weren't all for Team Indie.
 

Miguel81

Member
Unless Klepek is on the same wavelength as me? Nah.



Well they might have only seen the remake. Which I haven't seen so don't know if those couple of lines like 'You really want to save those crazy Swedes?' 'They're Norwegians Mac' are in there.

Yeah It's not too bad. It's a tad funky with the FOV I'm using as it fisheyes towards the edges sometimes but I have yet to face of against the Alien so will wait until then to see how it really comes into play. One thing of note I did stumble across though is because the game isn't really designed this way that the shadow maps sometimes will scale back whilst being visible on the outsides on the screen which wouldn't be visable at a 16:9 presentation. Doesn't bother me that much but it's just one of those little things I picked up

Kurt Russell played that thick gung ho Americano-style to tee. That's good to know about the shadow map issue. I'll have to give more time to Alien tonight as I am also early in the game.

The aliasing can get pretty bad, and the AA options don't help much. Only the lighting and darkness distract me enough, along with taking many shots.
 

Kiru

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Bayonetta 2 comes with a full version of Bayonetta 1, so there you go.




No, there isn't. Nintendo funded development, participated in development, and has the final say on where it will and won't be seen.

http://nintendoeverything.com/kamiy...roubled-fate-and-how-nintendo-saved-the-game/
You guys are a bit confused. He missed out on the limited "First Edition", that's the name of the edition with special boxart and artbook included on top of the 2 games. The "Special Edition" which also includes Bayonetta 1 is not limited at all.
 
Sega seems apathetic on the series, declining to fund the sequel, so that seems unlikely as well.
Sega likes (and needs) money though, and the porting costs would be minimal. They just need a few nudges and it sure doesn't hurt to lend a hand.

If Bayonetta or Vanquish comes to Steam I will give a good amount of them, I think.
 

Kiru

Member
So you're a fan of Unbounded?
My condolences.

Well, I played it for 20 hours and collected all achievements except the Multiplayer ones (Multiplayer is dead). The Drift challenges were the hardest part of the game, you have to experience the difficulty later on, man.
 

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
You know... They really should stack. I bet they could find a hell of a lot of angles for profit if they allowed people to chase down 5x20% to get a game for free.

Exactly what I was thinking. Make the coupons stack, and make them marketable. When a coupon hits people's accounts they can either decide to a) use it for the discount b) sell it for steam wallet or c) find / buy more copuons to get the game at an even bigger discount.

Of course a system like that is totally open to abuse, so instead of coupons going to everyone they would have to limit them to a small part of the community. Or stop spamming people with them, and just give them out as badge-crafting prizes for ultimate effect.
 

Tizoc

Member
Sega likes (and needs) money though, and the porting costs would be minimal. They just need a few nudges and it sure doesn't hurt to lend a hand.

If Bayonetta or Vanquish comes to Steam I will give a good amount of them, I think.

Would you buy each game for $20 though? Can you convince the average consumer that they'd be worth their money?
SEGA worrying about low initial sales could be what's stopping them from putting it on Steam.
In fact what would count as a successful sales number, on Steam, for initial releases of such kinds of games?
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
There are a lot of Japanese games that could be ported. Not many happen.

Food for thought: Viking: Battle for Asgard hit the PC four-and-a-half years after consoles and Sega is currently in the process of putting finishing touches on Steamworks/widescreen/xinput patches for its Dreamcast games.
 

Miguel81

Member
Really glad the Virtua Fighter 5 received a mention in the petition. That was one that I thought would be forgotten. It was excellent on the PS3, and would be even better to have a Steamworks version of Final Showdown.

There are a lot of Japanese games that could be ported. Not many happen.

Not to mention the ones that have been ported in the past, but have no DD version on the horizon.
 
You guys are a bit confused. He missed out on the limited "First Edition", that's the name of the edition with special boxart and artbook included on top of the 2 games. The "Special Edition" which also includes Bayonetta 1 is not limited at all.

Yeah, don't want to derail the thread any further but this was what I was talking about. To be fair, I just noticed i wrote "First Edition" instead of "First Print Edition" :p

EDIT: I'm dumb, coupons are already tradable.
 

Tizoc

Member
Food for thought: Viking: Battle for Asgard hit the PC four-and-a-half years after consoles and Sega is currently in the process of putting finishing touches on Steamworks/widescreen/xinput patches for its Dreamcast games.

I expect 2015 to be the year SEGA would announce more of their older games on Steam. What do they have planned for 2015 in the west anyways?
 

Jawmuncher

Member
I expect 2015 to be the year SEGA would announce more of their older games on Steam. What do they have planned for 2015 in the west anyways?

Honestly 2015 is pretty quiet for a lot of Japanese developers.
With maybe 1 title so far announced sans mobile.
 
Would you buy each game for $20 though? Can you convince the average consumer that they'd be worth their money?
SEGA worrying about low initial sales could be what's stopping them from putting it on Steam.
In fact what would count as a successful sales number, on Steam, for initial releases of such kinds of games?
I mean, I'd buy them for $20 the moment the store page went up. I paid $80 for Rising (360 and PC launch).

Vanquish in particular would be a great fit for PC.
 
Food for thought: Viking: Battle for Asgard hit the PC four-and-a-half years after consoles and Sega is currently in the process of putting finishing touches on Steamworks/widescreen/xinput patches for its Dreamcast games.

Indeed. To me, it's never too late for a PC version of anything simply because the PC isn't running in generations. Hell, we got IKARUGA of all (soon Radiant Silvergun I hope, you people get on buying Ikaruga!), we are soon getting those Homeworld remasters (Gearbox, dammit, step it up!) and that Resident Evil Remaster thingie.

It's never too late for the PC train.

edit: Oh, yeah, and what were you all hyped about recently? Final Fantasy XIII! Another "imposhiburu" title on the comp.
 

jblank83

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I'm not trying to stomp all over anyone's dreams like some sort of message board asshole.

I'm just saying that Japanese companies have been reluctant to port for a number of reasons. Further, the argument that it's a negligible cost isn't exactly true. There are still significant costs and they have to run numbers looking at potential sales numbers, balanced against other development investments of that money.

That's why so many niche Square Enix titles console/handheld titles have not been ported outside Japanese. That's despite needing nothing more than translations.

It's true that Sega does a decent job of getting their games on Steam, though. That's been a positive from them.

Ultimately, if it happens, that's great. I would absolutely love to see Japanese developers embrace Steam ports.
 

FloatOn

Member
alright so my boss is gone today and I've done next to nothing at work today. I've pondered my gaming future since my current pc is apparently incapable of running the new games particularly well. 3 options for my "next gen":

1) Get back into nintendo.
- pros: cheapest of all the consoles, incredible first party library.
- cons: none of that third party hotness

2) PS4
- pros: bloodborne!!
- cons: console game prices suck

3) Build a new PC or buy a pre-built
- pros: this is a steam thread. you know them.
- cons: most expensive to get started with

keep in mind I do plan on keeping the pc I have around for as long as possible. what say you gaf?
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
I'm not trying to stomp all over anyone's dreams like some sort of message board asshole.

I'm just saying that Japanese companies have been reluctant to port for a number of reasons. Further, the argument that it's a negligible cost isn't exactly true. There are still significant costs and they have to run numbers looking at potential sales numbers, balanced against other development investments of that money.

That's why so many niche Square Enix titles console/handheld titles have not been ported outside Japanese. That's despite needing nothing more than translations.

Ultimately, if it happens, that's great. I would absolutely love to see Japanese developers embrace Steam ports.

Sega has a history -- albeit one that began only relatively recently -- of putting effort behind dated works. You can't look to the habits of other companies and use that to be dismissive of data pertaining to the actual company in question -- that's just cynical. ;) That's not to say Sega porting its PS360 exclusives is most certainly going to happen, but there's no denying it's a distinct possibility.
 

Tizoc

Member
alright so my boss is gone today and I've done next to nothing at work today. I've pondered my gaming future since my current pc is apparently incapable of running the new games particularly well. 3 options for my "next gen":

1) Get back into nintendo.
- pros: cheapest of all the consoles, incredible first party library.
- cons: none of that third party hotness

2) PS4
- pros: bloodborne!!
- cons: console game prices suck

3) Build a new PC or buy a pre-built
- pros: this is a steam thread. you know them.
- cons: most expensive to get started with

keep in mind I do plan on keeping the pc I have around for as long as possible. what say you gaf?

I'm rather biased so I'd say go with PC. Games on sale for crazy cheap in the long run, and if you look in the 'build a PC thread' you should be able to find the components you need to build a good gaming rig.
 

Phawx

Member
Exactly what I was thinking. Make the coupons stack, and make them marketable. When a coupon hits people's accounts they can either decide to a) use it for the discount b) sell it for steam wallet or c) find / buy more copuons to get the game at an even bigger discount.

Of course a system like that is totally open to abuse, so instead of coupons going to everyone they would have to limit them to a small part of the community. Or stop spamming people with them, and just give them out as badge-crafting prizes for ultimate effect.

Hey Jshackles will it be possible to do "dumpster diving" in the trash account for a certain coupon that someone else threw away?
 
Well, I played it for 20 hours and collected all achievements except the Multiplayer ones (Multiplayer is dead). The Drift challenges were the hardest part of the game, you have to experience the difficulty later on, man.

I'll...keep that in mind.
(I played through most of the career mode, dominated most of the events, even one of the later drift challenges)
Nothing ever really clicked with me.
 

Sarcasm

Member
alright so my boss is gone today and I've done next to nothing at work today. I've pondered my gaming future since my current pc is apparently incapable of running the new games particularly well. 3 options for my "next gen":

1) Get back into nintendo.
- pros: cheapest of all the consoles, incredible first party library.
- cons: none of that third party hotness

2) PS4
- pros: bloodborne!!
- cons: console game prices suck

3) Build a new PC or buy a pre-built
- pros: this is a steam thread. you know them.
- cons: most expensive to get started with

keep in mind I do plan on keeping the pc I have around for as long as possible. what say you gaf?

PC + Vita
 

FloatOn

Member
I'm rather biased so I'd say go with PC. Games on sale for crazy cheap in the long run, and if you look in the 'build a PC thread' you should be able to find the components you need to build a good gaming rig.

yeah, I know this. but I'm kind of content playing the mid-tier and indies on pc.

I know that overall I will get the best performance on the high end with a capable pc, it's just that I haven't done the console thing in awhile and that might be the simpler/easier solution to get on the newer games you know?
 
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