Peroroncino
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Is this U.S., E.U. or global?
it's a slippery slope once you let a bank tell you what you can and can't do with your money.
I'm afraid it's global.
Is this U.S., E.U. or global?
it's a slippery slope once you let a bank tell you what you can and can't do with your money.
It's corporate governance overreach, similar to the British East India Company level.Looks like Steam already got busy removing some games from purchase, list includes such classics as:
So far only the more "edgy" porn games are on the chopping block, so SA/loli/incest etc.
Latest app changes - steam-tracker.com
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Oshit, I actually had that one on my wishlist, along with its sequel. I wish I could afford to buy the remaining one, but that's a very steep price.And Train Capacity 300%. Coincidentally it has an 2D art style some what similar to the Phoenix Wright games. It also had some 3D gameplay that looked interesting for a VN. It was a full $60 cost game. I didn't look into it too much but you probably get up to no good on the train. The sequel, Train Capacity 300% 2 is still available lol. Also $60.
Why are these fucking banker parasites setting rules for how everything we pay for with our money should operate? Isn't that a cartel that basically functions as a government? Shouldn't that cartel be dealt with?
It isn't specific to credit cards.Credit isn't your money. You're borrowing money from the bank to pay them back later.
As expected, some `people here trying to gaslight everyone into not seeing what this actually is.
There are global groups like Planned Parenthood who want to impose their wold views across the globe. If they don't get their favorite presidents elected, they do it via private initiatives like this, using crazed feminists and gender cults as spearhead. The same as Sweet Baby Inc was introduced in this industry as a trojan horse.
At this point you should be able to see the wolf under the lamb skin, and it's our responsibility to push back or else enjoy a fucking dystopia where culture and entertainment is censored and real life pedos go completely unchecked. No wonder this would be paradise for some of the white knights defending these initiatives.
Tankard Reist is the author of two books by Melbourne feminist publisher Spinifex Press, Getting Real: Challenging the Sexualisation of Girls and Big Porn Inc. (edited with Abigail Bray). She runs an activist group, Collective Shout, that works against the objectification of women and sexualisation of girls for commercial profit.
She's also a conservative Christian who is anti-abortion (or 'pro-life') and spent twelve years working for Tasmanian senator Brian Harradine.
There's still a shit ton of NSFW games on Steam. I doubt GOG's promotion is for incest and rape games.Meanwhile, GOG started a NSFW promotion...
Why oh why do these payment processors even care about this kind of content?? Like really, why they even have a say on it? So lame.
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeWTF who is buying this shit.
That is sick.
That woman sounds like some reactionary Neoprotestant masquerading as a radfem.
If you think about it, you can trace the origins of feminism back to the Christian temperance movement.For the record...I will once again point out that this is not coming from Planned Parenthood's side of the political divide. Quite the opposite.
Melinda Tankard, one of the founders of the specific Australian organization involved in this case, is an anti-porn, conservative Christian activist.
When they force media outlets to remove investigative pieces on their behavior (see above), it crosses over from "censorship" into actual old-school censorship.Yeah there needs to be some form of democratic control over the rules of censorship (in the broadest sense, not textbook "censorship" as that's obviously not what PayPal etc are doing). Some of these platforms have become so huge they increasingly are an annoyance to the public.
Did the payment processors even investigate this shit?
The risk with not complying immediately is payment processing suspension. To reinstate it requires jumping through a ton of hoops, while losing millions of dollars for every day you can't sell stuff.Did Valve protest? Did the payment processors even investigate this shit? Why believe what some fringe activist group says? I have many unanswered questions about this.
It should be Oceania onlyI'm afraid it's global.
That's the way this always goes. Wait until the extreme ideologues take over and impose their will. It'll be cancel culture on a corporate level.It's only gonna get worse it seems like. I imagine once they remove the biggest offenders they'll drill down on other content that's vaguely on the fringes of their rules.
There are no legal issues with this type of content in Japan. Heck lots of the games removed are available on Japanese stores like DMM or DLsite (they both have a region lock for this reason). The anime and manga porn industry thrives on this shit and has even worse themes like ryona and even worse guro porn.They want to avoid legal consequences. There are countries like Japan, Germany, the UK, and even parts of the US where accepting payments for explicit adult content, even if it's fictional, can cause legal issues, especially if it involves sensitive topics like incest or violence.
The solution to avoid the USA censorship would be to support payment methods not controlled by them, as would be cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin or Ethereum, direct bank transfers, payment via SMS, Chinese payment methods like WeChat or AliPay. I assume that there must also be western payment processors dedicated to adult content, pretty likely not US based.So what's the solution here? Payment processors decide what we can consume in many other areas. Hell, they were about shut off porn in OnlyFans were it not for the backlash.
Visa and Mastercard have a monopoly and they want to look presentable and avoid controversies hence ruining other people's livelihoods considered beneath them.
I would personally say get a payment processor that specifically has a 'everythings allowed unless illegal' like probiller for porn sites. Idk who or why anybody will set it up tho.
In theory it's a law limited just to USA, but Visa, Mastercard or Paypal threatened with dropping their support for several websites -Steam is just one of them- with nudity and sex globally.Is this U.S., E.U. or global?
i mean, is just Hitler, other than that the game is pretty tame.*sprints to Steam Store*
Whew, Sex with Hitler (1 & 2) are still safe! Had me worried there for a second!
If we knew nothing, then a few of your arguments could apply (yet I seriously doubt that Steam gets hit with chargebacks quite as much, in comparison to other platforms, since it has reasonable refund policies and it's not an adult only website, plus it has relevant features such as hiding games in your library).
However...when you do the research and realize that the payment processors didn't suddenly wake up in the middle of the night, but were intentionally triggered by a mass e-mail campaign organized to turn them against Steam that was recently carried out by a radical feminist organization in Australia, a group that is against pornography in all of its forms (see my previous post above and you can look up their previous activities online too)...then many of those explanations are of limited applicability in this case.
The text below was from just a few days ago and they've since posted even more about it:
It wasn't "oh no, Steam is facing a lot of chargebacks for adult purchases" (again, very unlikely as a matter of principle), but the result of malicious actors poisoning the well. They rely on the fallacy that something happening in a game means you're somehow in favor of a similar thing taking place in reality. That's not true when fictional characters are killed by the thousands in GTA, and it's also not true in these other games either.
For that matter...
More on that person:
Melinda Tankard Reist - Wikipedia
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There are no legal issues with this type of content in Japan.
Fictional incest and rape porn is also not illegal in Germany.
yes, this is definitely a "brand image" thing, VISA has admitted to it a year ago when VISA was cracking down on this content (Head of VISA japan is a westerner btw)Well, but let's assume the issue isn't the potential legal consequences that could prevent these games from being sold, maybe it has more to do with the credit card companies' own rules, or concerns about public image, like I mentioned with the Pornhub case. Either way, as people have already pointed out, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Totally real email from a totally real person.![]()
Totally real email from a totally real person.![]()
Totally real email from a totally real person.![]()
If this is true, this would ban a bunch of mainstream games too.
Not sure if I agree with cardholders having this kind of content-censoring powers.