Steam rules updated to prohibit content that violates rules set forth by payment processors and banks

A lot of porn games removed.

I'm not into it but i hate when i see removed fiction works.

I remember purchasing "No Mercy" on Steam just before it got delisted for the sake of art freedom but now dozens of games at once was a complete surprise.
 
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And Train Capacity 300%. Coincidentally it has an 2D art style some what similar to the Phoenix Wright games. It also had some 3D gameplay that looked interesting for a VN. It was a full $60 cost game. I didn't look into it too much but you probably get up to no good on the train. The sequel, Train Capacity 300% 2 is still available lol. Also $60.
Oshit, I actually had that one on my wishlist, along with its sequel. I wish I could afford to buy the remaining one, but that's a very steep price.
 
Why are these fucking banker parasites setting rules for how everything we pay for with our money should operate? Isn't that a cartel that basically functions as a government? Shouldn't that cartel be dealt with?

Credit isn't your money. You're borrowing money from the bank to pay them back later.
 
As expected, some `people here trying to gaslight everyone into not seeing what this actually is.

There are global groups like Planned Parenthood who want to impose their wold views across the globe. If they don't get their favorite presidents elected, they do it via private initiatives like this, using crazed feminists and gender cults as spearhead. The same as Sweet Baby Inc was introduced in this industry as a trojan horse.

At this point you should be able to see the wolf under the lamb skin, and it's our responsibility to push back or else enjoy a fucking dystopia where culture and entertainment is censored and real life pedos go completely unchecked. No wonder this would be paradise for some of the white knights defending these initiatives.
 
As expected, some `people here trying to gaslight everyone into not seeing what this actually is.

There are global groups like Planned Parenthood who want to impose their wold views across the globe. If they don't get their favorite presidents elected, they do it via private initiatives like this, using crazed feminists and gender cults as spearhead. The same as Sweet Baby Inc was introduced in this industry as a trojan horse.

At this point you should be able to see the wolf under the lamb skin, and it's our responsibility to push back or else enjoy a fucking dystopia where culture and entertainment is censored and real life pedos go completely unchecked. No wonder this would be paradise for some of the white knights defending these initiatives.

For the record...I will once again point out that this is not coming from Planned Parenthood's side of the political divide. Quite the opposite.

Melinda Tankard, one of the founders of the specific Australian organization involved in this case, is an anti-porn, conservative Christian activist.

She just likes to downplay her religion these days and only present herself as a feminist, but you can't wipe everything off the Internet.

Tankard Reist is the author of two books by Melbourne feminist publisher Spinifex Press, Getting Real: Challenging the Sexualisation of Girls and Big Porn Inc. (edited with Abigail Bray). She runs an activist group, Collective Shout, that works against the objectification of women and sexualisation of girls for commercial profit.

She's also a conservative Christian who is anti-abortion (or 'pro-life') and spent twelve years working for Tasmanian senator Brian Harradine.


If anything, she's probably happy that "Project 2025" is being implemented in the U.S. right now, because they are also against all porn:



Hell, these Australian anti-porn "feminist" activists are now even boasting about their campaign and directly linking it to this event:


More people are covering this:



 
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I love how Crusader Kings 2 and 3 are still there.

The games where you can have a daughter wife and make a family tree into a family circle.
 
The fact that 'payment processors' have so much power that even Steam had to bend the knee is pretty sickening. It's not only going to be about removing 'incest and rape' kind of games, but a bunch of other ones as well... just have to be targetted by feminists or some other crazy group. And as a developer you'll be left without an option to make money, because wherever you go the same credit card companies and banks will control money transfers.
 
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Why oh why do these payment processors even care about this kind of content?? Like really, why they even have a say on it? So lame.
 
Why oh why do these payment processors even care about this kind of content?? Like really, why they even have a say on it? So lame.

They want to avoid legal consequences. There are countries like Japan, Germany, the UK, and even parts of the US where accepting payments for explicit adult content, even if it's fictional, can cause legal issues, especially if it involves sensitive topics like incest or violence.

They're also concerned about their public image. For example, since 2020 Visa and Mastercard suspended the use of their cards on Pornhub after allegations that the site hosted child sexual abuse material and rape videos. OnlyFans has also faced payment blocks, though I'm not sure if those are still in effect.

So, if they say "we won't process payments for this kind of content", then Valve has no choice unless they want to risk losing payment support altogether.
 
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An article covering this was censored


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Honestly, Collective Shout deserves the same treatment Sweet Baby got
 


Its not just the Pr0ns they're after, its what people live, say, do and consume. There's been a big push in attacking businesses in Japan from payment processors namely Visa and Mastercard, and when those tactics started to fail and got some people into politics simply to defend Japan's artistic rights and freedoms, they then try to lobby politicians and parties or put pressure directly on businesses by no longer supporting them effectively threating to kill the companies since so much business is done not only online but through bank cards which are still tied to Visa and Mastercard.

This is just one angle of attack by these self-aggrandizing pricks. With many ties to globalist overlords(IMF and BIS) and agendas they are trying to make massive sweeping changes to what they think is right or acceptable, offering aid to companies so long as they adopt ESG protocol and change things about their products down to the advertising and content. If those companies step out of line they pull that financial support, and companies in weakened economies already feeling the pinch would be hard pressed to try something that risky. I hate it as I hate censorship but one need only look at gaming companies there to see the impact, but also their(western financial institutions) attempt at getting into the anime and manga industries not for profit or artistic merit but to control the message and art itself. Look at the collapse in sales in western comics and the huge adoption in Japanese manga to see why they do it.



It only began with easy targets because it only generates a small amount of pushback, but give it time and will come for everything else. The vague ambiguous language they used in the terms leaves so much room for interpretation. If they feel strong enough they can slowly start implementing more and more. They aren't going to try and sink the industry in one fell swoop but instead force change through slow enforcement in each desired category until developers are self-censoring at the onset of development. An all-digital future only helps to cement that power and enforcement for these unelected elites trying to rule over us. The typical "rules for thee, not for me" types who push climate change agendas while jetsetting the globe in their private charters and planes, fleets of automobiles and multiple houses. Its all about control down to the very last.
 
NOOOOO NOT INCEST TALES! 😂
Seriously though this is ridiculous, credit card companies dont care if you buy porn direct from the source, why the fuck should it be different anywhere else…If this means Seeds of Chaos gets censored again Im gonna be pissed though…
 
That woman sounds like some reactionary Neoprotestant masquerading as a radfem.
For the record...I will once again point out that this is not coming from Planned Parenthood's side of the political divide. Quite the opposite.

Melinda Tankard, one of the founders of the specific Australian organization involved in this case, is an anti-porn, conservative Christian activist.
If you think about it, you can trace the origins of feminism back to the Christian temperance movement.

But honestly, I don't care what kind of feminism it is, it's all the same to me. It's just women trying to control what men do.
 
Yeah there needs to be some form of democratic control over the rules of censorship (in the broadest sense, not textbook "censorship" as that's obviously not what PayPal etc are doing). Some of these platforms have become so huge they increasingly are an annoyance to the public.
 
Yeah there needs to be some form of democratic control over the rules of censorship (in the broadest sense, not textbook "censorship" as that's obviously not what PayPal etc are doing). Some of these platforms have become so huge they increasingly are an annoyance to the public.
When they force media outlets to remove investigative pieces on their behavior (see above), it crosses over from "censorship" into actual old-school censorship.
 
Did Valve protest? Did the payment processors even investigate this shit? Why believe what some fringe activist group says? I have many unanswered questions about this.
 
Did Valve protest? Did the payment processors even investigate this shit? Why believe what some fringe activist group says? I have many unanswered questions about this.
The risk with not complying immediately is payment processing suspension. To reinstate it requires jumping through a ton of hoops, while losing millions of dollars for every day you can't sell stuff.
 
VICE ran an article about those those collective crazies and they had to take it down on the Savage Venture's (owner company) request - due to not wanting to stir up a controversy.

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Author got mad about it and told she ain't gonna contribute anymore - several hours later she officially got the boot which prompted 3 of her colleagues to also leave. Now... it's VICE so nothing of value really was lost - but it's worrying that even sites like that are getting a gag order when it comes to that coven of hags. Which I'm sure will only serve to further embolden them to go after more things.

Happy days... :}
 
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Very Interesting that the payment processor has a say when I'm pretty sure they are some of the most corrupted people on the planet basically playing their part with banking cartels.
 
It's only gonna get worse it seems like. I imagine once they remove the biggest offenders they'll drill down on other content that's vaguely on the fringes of their rules.
That's the way this always goes. Wait until the extreme ideologues take over and impose their will. It'll be cancel culture on a corporate level.
 
They want to avoid legal consequences. There are countries like Japan, Germany, the UK, and even parts of the US where accepting payments for explicit adult content, even if it's fictional, can cause legal issues, especially if it involves sensitive topics like incest or violence.
There are no legal issues with this type of content in Japan. Heck lots of the games removed are available on Japanese stores like DMM or DLsite (they both have a region lock for this reason). The anime and manga porn industry thrives on this shit and has even worse themes like ryona and even worse guro porn.

Fictional incest and rape porn is also not illegal in Germany. However all porn games on Steam are region locked anyway, because they don't want to implement proper age verification and that is Germany's biggest problem: youth protection and age verification online. I can order shit like Night Shift Nurses, Kisaku or Bible Black from amazon (well, at least for now... god knows when payment processors demand for this to be removed) then have to show my ID to the delivery guy. Same goes for incest porn, however that shit is more niche. You either buy the DVDs directly in porn shops or order them online from said porn stores.

The UK however treats all of this shit differently.

If you want to play the "legal consequences" card then they should all be worried about gay stuff being paid for with credit cards. That shit is illegal in lots of countries in the middle east, yet you don't see them removing it. Or what about games like Manhunt? Illegal in Germany and New Zealand, yet you can buy and pay for it with a CC. The "legal consequences" argument doesn't work here.
 
So what's the solution here? Payment processors decide what we can consume in many other areas. Hell, they were about shut off porn in OnlyFans were it not for the backlash.

Visa and Mastercard have a monopoly and they want to look presentable and avoid controversies hence ruining other people's livelihoods considered beneath them.

I would personally say get a payment processor that specifically has a 'everythings allowed unless illegal' like probiller for porn sites. Idk who or why anybody will set it up tho.
The solution to avoid the USA censorship would be to support payment methods not controlled by them, as would be cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin or Ethereum, direct bank transfers, payment via SMS, Chinese payment methods like WeChat or AliPay. I assume that there must also be western payment processors dedicated to adult content, pretty likely not US based.

And then to limit the payments for games featuring nudes or sex to these other payment methods.

Is this U.S., E.U. or global?
In theory it's a law limited just to USA, but Visa, Mastercard or Paypal threatened with dropping their support for several websites -Steam is just one of them- with nudity and sex globally.

Some of them lost their support and had to find alternative payment methods, other ones like Steam is censoring that content. I assume some other one may shut down.
 
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Oh great, most youtubers and gamers focused on the feminist nutjobs and ignored the banker scum and their authoritarian cartel that needs to go yesterday
 
If we knew nothing, then a few of your arguments could apply (yet I seriously doubt that Steam gets hit with chargebacks quite as much, in comparison to other platforms, since it has reasonable refund policies and it's not an adult only website, plus it has relevant features such as hiding games in your library).

However...when you do the research and realize that the payment processors didn't suddenly wake up in the middle of the night, but were intentionally triggered by a mass e-mail campaign organized to turn them against Steam that was recently carried out by a radical feminist organization in Australia, a group that is against pornography in all of its forms (see my previous post above and you can look up their previous activities online too)...then many of those explanations are of limited applicability in this case.

The text below was from just a few days ago and they've since posted even more about it:


It wasn't "oh no, Steam is facing a lot of chargebacks for adult purchases" (again, very unlikely as a matter of principle), but the result of malicious actors poisoning the well. They rely on the fallacy that something happening in a game means you're somehow in favor of a similar thing taking place in reality. That's not true when fictional characters are killed by the thousands in GTA, and it's also not true in these other games either.

For that matter...



More on that person:





These grifters always be grifting like their livelihood depended on it.
 
There are no legal issues with this type of content in Japan.

Fictional incest and rape porn is also not illegal in Germany.

Da fuck, are you sure? If that's the case then I must be mixing up the countries, but I'm pretty sure that in some places, this kind of content is illegal even if it's fictional.

Well, but let's assume the issue isn't the potential legal consequences that could prevent these games from being sold, maybe it has more to do with the credit card companies' own rules, or concerns about public image, like I mentioned with the Pornhub case. Either way, as people have already pointed out, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
 
Well, but let's assume the issue isn't the potential legal consequences that could prevent these games from being sold, maybe it has more to do with the credit card companies' own rules, or concerns about public image, like I mentioned with the Pornhub case. Either way, as people have already pointed out, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
yes, this is definitely a "brand image" thing, VISA has admitted to it a year ago when VISA was cracking down on this content (Head of VISA japan is a westerner btw)


The former PM of Japan has promised to do something about it, but who knows how much power he actually has and this will also not have an impact on the west

 
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If this is true, this would ban a bunch of mainstream games too.

Not sure if I agree with cardholders having this kind of content-censoring powers.
 
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