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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Diapers?
Death Stranding 2 would be banned if these rules become commonplace, lol.

Diapers?
Some of that list seems confused, I'm sure "diapers" is likely only for sexual content.
While I also don't feel comfortable with the idea that payment processors cause "censorship", I'm also not comfortable with forcing them to be involved in the sale of rape / incest / pedo games.
I'd wait to see if this slippery slope argument actually holds true or if only total garbage is removed.
In the end maybe someone like Musk can save the day with a payment processor that you can buy incest games with!
Put "censorship" in quotes because these devs are welcome to distribute this important art themselves.
So Yakuza Kiwami 2 gets banned?I'm sure "diapers" is likely only for sexual content.
In the US the "law" is extremely vague around sexual content.It's a weird fetish, to be real, yet shouldn't really bother me if that's what someone likes. Unless you're a criminal, all banks should be neutral towards your interests.
There has to be room for people to buy their own fetish content in peace, because your credit card company shouldn't be the one judging or shaming you for anything.
They should only step in if you're breaking the law, which might create a valid concern due to liability and exposure, but anything else should be allowed until then.
Different countries have very different laws, mind you, but the one general principle is...don't get any minors involved. There's no other universal standard in place.
All it takes is to mess with the money.Hatred couldn't get Steam to buckle but Visa did.
What a twist.
I dont get it how this is even legal. Visa, Mastercard and paypal are more or less in control of all these digital payment transactions worldwide and now using their power to blackmail (its nothing else in my eyes) sellers everywhere on the planet what they are allowed to sell and what not, even if that stuff is completely legal. I dont like this development....i dont like it at all.
I dont get it how this is even legal. Visa, Mastercard and paypal are more or less in control of all these digital payment transactions worldwide and now using their power to blackmail (its nothing else in my eyes) sellers everywhere on the planet what they are allowed to sell and what not, even if that stuff is completely legal. I dont like this development....i dont like it at all.
I mean if the sellers (and their customers) could just choose from many of payment processors...this would be fine. You would just pick a different payment processor and let the others have their morale high ground if they prefer that over making money....but thats not the case here. They literally have some kind of monopoly and even act together in that matter. This shouldnt be allowed.Why wouldn't it be legal? Free speech only applies to the government censoring content. Private corporations like this can, for the most part, censor whatever they want. Awful timeline we're in, really.
Report to your nearest Visa terminal please!Those anti freedom lobby groups are terrible, leading us directly in some Demolition Man / Equilibrium / 1984 / Brave New World jail.
Anything sexualised, any violance, alcohol and drugs, offensive jokes.... they hate pretty much everything and essentially love dictatorships without realising it.
"The West" was successful because we had and fought for decent freedom, while other regions suffered from repressive mind policing and these dumbasses fight to get us there too. smh
Why wouldn't it be legal? Free speech only applies to the government censoring content. Private corporations like this can, for the most part, censor whatever they want. Awful timeline we're in, really.
Just shut up and take my money. Porn games lmao who gives a fuck.They want to avoid legal consequences. There are countries like Japan, Germany, the UK, and even parts of the US where accepting payments for explicit adult content, even if it's fictional, can cause legal issues, especially if it involves sensitive topics like incest or violence.
They're also concerned about their public image. For example, since 2020 Visa and Mastercard suspended the use of their cards on Pornhub after allegations that the site hosted child sexual abuse material and rape videos. OnlyFans has also faced payment blocks, though I'm not sure if those are still in effect.
So, if they say "we won't process payments for this kind of content", then Valve has no choice unless they want to risk losing payment support altogether.
If Steam sets itself up tp receive Bitcoin wouldn't that solve the problem, use bitcoin to pay for stuff and you won't have to go through the normal payment systems.
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There's a petition...
Not sure about the wording or target for the petition but it should at least get a little attention raised.
Look at it this way - if the payment processors have total monopoly when it comes to handling money transactions they can make it very hard for Steam to continue their normal operations. In my opinion we should be going against Visa, Mastercard or Paypal, not necessarily focus on attacking Valve.Yeah Steam is a private company and can decide what they want or don't want to sell on that store. But hiding behind "payment processors" to ban games is fucking pathetic. How about we buy whatever the fuck game we want and leave the moral outrage back in the 1980's?
No one is forced to buy any of those games, so whose business is it what games other people are playing?
Some weak ass shit Steam, do better.
Collective shout, the group behind the steam censorship was just exposed for being massive hypocrites, proving to be anti leftist ideology, resulting in multiple feminist shills on the left being forced to retract and delete tweets trying to partner with this group.
That's horseshit... Mastercard, etc would never deny a transaction that is confirmed by the user, not to Valve, ever. This is not the same as sending money to Iran or North Korea where some kind of sanctions/fraud detection is triggered.Look at it this way - if the payment processors have total monopoly when it comes to handling money transactions they can make it very hard for Steam to continue their normal operations. In my opinion we should be going against Visa, Mastercard or Paypal, not necessarily focus on attacking Valve.
just do nothing and lose 80% of yr income...and finally go bankrupt. Nice strategy!Gabe could just do nothing... he chose to do something. It's his company, his right, but that's some fucking weak sauce shit.
They wouldnt deny a transaction - they would remove the ability of Valve to process transactions through their networks completely.That's horseshit... Mastercard, etc would never deny a transaction that is confirmed by the user, not to Valve, ever. This is not the same as sending money to Iran or North Korea where some kind of sanctions/fraud detection is triggered.
Gabe could just do nothing... he chose to do something. It's his company, his right, but that's some fucking weak sauce shit.
they would do fuck allThey wouldnt deny a transaction - they would remove the ability of Valve to process transactions through their networks completely.
Valve would likely not survive being unable to accept Mastercard or Visa.
Except they have done it to other merchants.they would do fuck all
No one on steam, at this point. Good riddance.Each day the internet shows me people are weird. WHO THE FUCK is buying this type shit? lol
You lost me at WeChat or Alipay. Western Payment Processors suck, but Chinese ones take it up not just a notch but a whole bucket of notches.The solution to avoid the USA censorship would be to support payment methods not controlled by them, as would be cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin or Ethereum, direct bank transfers, payment via SMS, Chinese payment methods like WeChat or AliPay. I assume that there must also be western payment processors dedicated to adult content, pretty likely not US based.
And then to limit the payments for games featuring nudes or sex to these other payment methods.
In theory it's a law limited just to USA, but Visa, Mastercard or Paypal threatened with dropping their support for several websites -Steam is just one of them- with nudity and sex globally.
Some of them lost their support and had to find alternative payment methods, other ones like Steam is censoring that content. I assume some other one may shut down.