Stella has been removed from FFXV; Itamuro writing game; Demo 2 June 9; FFXV not @ E3

The faster Tabatha comes out and explains Luna's new role in a brief synopsis, the better. Now everyone's just jumping into the worst case scenario of her being an eye candy, weak damsel in distress.
 
The faster Tabatha comes out and explains Luna's new role in a brief synopsis, the better. Now everyone's just jumping into the worst case scenario of her being an eye candy, weak damsel in distress.
I am sure he understands the current situation and they definitely read most of the reactions from fans. I expect a huge focus on Luna, the black haired girl and the other characters at Gamescom.
 
The person who wrote Dissidia's nonsensical script is in charge of writing for Final Fantasy XV? Wow...

Other than the technical aspects, I find it harder and harder to maintain an interest for this title.
 
A lot of people don't have PS4s and would only buy one if it was FFXV, DQXI, or a console MH. A price cut would make that more enticing.

DQXI releasing first is unlikely at this point, even if this is FFXV.
I don't think DQ11 is releasing before FF15 (it would be real sad if it did...). I'm using it as an example of what would likely get PS4s off shelves; I think DQ is a more potent system seller in Japan than FF is. And while a price cut might make the PS4s more enticing, I don't think it's that high of a motivator to get the system.
 
I wonder how much it's gonna be connected to the Fabula Nova Crystallis mythology still.

A lot of people bitched about it, but I actually found the mythology and the fal'cie/l'cie thing really interesting. It was a really cool idea in XIII, I think it just wasn't explained well to well to new players.

One of the coolest things for me in Versus was the goddess etro portrait and the " light of expiring souls" thing.
 
I wonder how much it's gonna be connected to the Fabula Nova Crystallis mythology still.

A lot of people bitched about it, but I actually found the mythology and the fal'cie/l'cie thing really interesting. It was a really cool idea in XIII, I think it just wasn't explained well to well to new players.

One of the coolest things for me in Versus was the goddess etro portrait and the " light of expiring souls" thing.

Im pretty sure that is still in especially from the art at the end of the demo after beating it, you can see Etro at the top and she is still on the cover. I think that part is still easy to keep but Nomura said forever ago and we still see it now that there is no fal'cie/l'cie in name.
 
Im pretty sure that is still in especially from the art at the end of the demo after beating it, you can see Etro at the top and she is still on the cover. I think that part is still easy to keep but Nomura said forever ago and we still see it now that there is no fal'cie/l'cie in name.
That's good. I didn't know Nomura said that, but it's cool with me as long as they keep the whole near death experience aspect.
 
FNC is still in, but is Noctis' formal wear? This is important.

Well, this was shown recently:
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FNC is still in, but is Noctis' formal wear? This is important.

Dammit. This really is the most important thing. That suit was so good and really made him feel important.

Well, this was shown recently:
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Well, yeah, but this is for the treaty signing party. That's been cancelled. It's most likely from 2013 since we can see the Niflheim and Lucis banners like in E3 2013.
 
Well, yeah, but this is for the treaty signing party. That's been cancelled. It's most likely from 2013 since we can see the Niflheim and Lucis banners like in E3 2013.

Yeah but a scene similar to it could still be in at a different point, since we have been seeing the tech demos in this area
 
Yeah but a scene similar to it could still be in at a different point, since we have been seeing the tech demos in this area

I think the banners being removed in the two new gameplay demonstrations in this area indicates that the entire thing has changed.

I'd love to be wrong.
 
Luna is much more Generic. (for JRPGs)
Stela is a real name and sounded more realistic...

If they needed a different girl, why didn't they just altered the character and leave the name intact.
 
FNC is still in, but is Noctis' formal wear? This is important.

You joke, but that suit was some serious shit, i'd wear it as an alt costume for the whole game.

Well, yeah, but this is for the treaty signing party. That's been cancelled. It's most likely from 2013 since we can see the Niflheim and Lucis banners like in E3 2013.

Have they cancelled the whole party or only the Stella scene?
 
Luna is much more Generic. (for JRPGs)
Stela is a real name and sounded more realistic...

If they needed a different girl, why didn't they just altered the character and leave the name intact.

Final Fantasy has always had terrible names. I really don't see much difference between the two names in terms of realism. At least the new name is the same as Harry Potter's best girl.
 
Luna is much more Generic..
I could swear that every other female cat (and quite a few dogs) here in Italy are called Luna.
Oh in Switzerland too it seems :P

Did they confirm if the whole map can be explored?
I remember hearing something about the cities that you could visit during the game, but I'm not sure if it was in a recent interview or in some old article that I was randomly browsing.

For reference these were the last two threads on GAF on the worldmap 1 - 2
 
I could swear that every other female cat (and quite a few dogs) here in Italy are called Luna.
Oh in Switzerland too it seems :P

Did they confirm if the whole map can be explored?
I remember hearing something about the cities that you could visit during the game, but I'm not sure if it was in a recent interview or in some old article that I was randomly browsing.

For reference these were the last two threads on GAF on the worldmap 1 - 2

I made both of those threads. The first one for the world map may have been a bit premature. It might just the world map for just Duscae.

There are two other confirmed areas in the game which I'm guessing are parts of Duscae. They're presumably called Leide and Cleigne. We first found out about them through magazine scans and we can see mentions of those places again in the demo. We also know about Cauthess too which is right near Titan.

But yeah, you can seemingly traverse to anywhere on the world map.
 
I made both of those threads. The first one for the world map may have been a bit premature. It might just the world map for just Duscae.

There are two other confirmed areas in the game which I'm guessing are the regions after Duscae. They're presumably called Leide and Cleigne. We first found out about them through magazine scans and we can see mentions of those places again in the demo.

But yeah, you can seemingly traverse to anywhere on the world map.

That's nice.
I was getting worried that, since the cities shown in the trailers so far seem to be very detailed, they would have streamlined the travels and the portion of the map that could be traversed to.
 
I'm very happy that the game is coming out at all.

What I liked most about Final Fantasy games of the PSX era was the sense of exploring a world where anything could happen, and something amazing could be around every turn. Most areas in VII and VIII were fully realized and full of culture and each twist/set piece was truly shocking/amazing. (VIII areas/events:
Balamb Town, Fisherman's Horizon, Great Salt Lake, Garden flying, going to space
)

Knowing that they scrapped elements shown/hinted at in the Versus XIII trailers gives me hope that XV could instill the same feeling.

My sincerest condolences to those who developed an attachment to Stella. I hope that there are many surprises in store, come late 2016.
 
Well Luna is actually a great name, but Lunafreya is... uh...

It's funny because I think the exact opposite. Luna to me is such a bleh name, especially in a fantasy setting. Lunafreya sounds more believable as a name, as ridiculous as I know that sounds lol.
 
The Witcher 1 was a disaster at launch, actually. It wasn't until they fixed most of the stuff with Enhanced Edition that they got the fans trust. It wasn't exactly critically praised series until The Witcher 2.

Witcher 1, despite being a technical mess, got very good reviews (81 metacritic). Then they boosted to 86 with the release of the EE.
 
Luna is much more Generic. (for JRPGs)
Stela is a real name and sounded more realistic...

If they needed a different girl, why didn't they just altered the character and leave the name intact.
Both Luna and Stella are prime "normal heroine" names for the FF series. I mean, we've had Maria, Lenna, Rosa, Celes, Tifa, Rinoa, Garnet, Yuna(which rhymes with Luna), names like Luna and Stella both fit and don't feel out of place. Hell, you could say those two names sound MORE FF-ish than Noctis, Gladiolus, Prompto and Ignis. Regardles of looking the part of your average Nomura-looking troupe, their names just reek of Nomura's Latin fetish.
 
Sadly the final fantasy series is a mixed bag in terms of character names. In part this is because Japanese content creators don't always realize how thier names come across to a western audience.

Case in point, Lightning. In Japan this name supposedly comes across as effeminate. For everyone else, it comes across as a bit strange.

Or Sephiroth, I don't think anyone anywhere would actually name a kid Sephiroth. Too many syllables, doesn't contract well, and it's neither a traditional name nor based on a word that would have meaning to most people.

Luna is a minor offender in comparison, as it is a real name at least.

PS: No this it not meant to be critical of either these characters, or the people that created them. When it comes to games that span cultures occasionally there'll be little things lost in translation.
 
FF14 has been pretty damn great. Definitely now in my top games of the series.

Don't get me wrong Kagari, I do love FF XIV, I played both version of the software and that was one of my best FF experience. It just feel awkward to me that the MMO feels like a core mainline entry when FF XIII don't deliver anything similar despite the three installment.
 
Don't get me wrong Kagari, I do love FF XIV, I played both version of the software and that was one of my best FF experience. It just feel awkward to me that the MMO feels like a core mainline entry when FF XIII don't deliver anything similar despite the three installment.

I don't even think of 14 as a MMO. I actually dislike MMOs but I love 14.
 
There hasn't been any new material for 9 months, is the reality of it :V.

Um....a fully playable demo released late march of this year ,and up to that point the game was getting shown on almost monthly basis.

Arguably the game was getting over exposed up until very recently.

Many of us were complaining of FFXV saturation not too long ago.
 
I thought it was cool that Stella was going to be an antagonist. It would be interesting to have a villain of circumstance headlining instead of the normal stuff.
 
Sadly the final fantasy series is a mixed bag in terms of character names. In part this is because Japanese content creators don't always realize how thier names come across to a western audience.

Case in point, Lightning. In Japan this name supposedly comes across as effeminate. For everyone else, it comes across as a bit strange.

Or Sephiroth, I don't think anyone anywhere would actually name a kid Sephiroth. Too many syllables, doesn't contract well, and it's neither a traditional name nor based on a word that would have meaning to most people.

Luna is a minor offender in comparison, as it is a real name at least.

PS: No this it not meant to be critical of either these characters, or the people that created them. When it comes to games that span cultures occasionally there'll be little things lost in translation.

Its a Fantasy series, they are not supposed to sound common or traditional , Sephiroth may be a weird name but it sticked as a villain.

Snow or Cloud or Terra may sound stupid, but they are fairly simple names.

Yes you have Lightning
Claire
, Sera, Cid, Luna, Noctis, Layle, Tidus, Yuna, etc.

But while they sound weird, it seems for many people the names dont lose appeal, and its the same for other games, or comics, or manga or movies..
 
Well, yeah, but this is for the treaty signing party. That's been cancelled. It's most likely from 2013 since we can see the Niflheim and Lucis banners like in E3 2013.

Crap, the treaty signing was by far my favourite looking scene of all Versus/XV trailers.

I really hope it's still in despite the whole opening gameplay section being cut :/
 
I was under the impression that Square simply renamed Versus XIII to XV. I had no idea that it was a significantly different game.

This is blowing my mind right now.
 
Sadly the final fantasy series is a mixed bag in terms of character names. In part this is because Japanese content creators don't always realize how thier names come across to a western audience.

Case in point, Lightning. In Japan this name supposedly comes across as effeminate. For everyone else, it comes across as a bit strange.

Or Sephiroth, I don't think anyone anywhere would actually name a kid Sephiroth. Too many syllables, doesn't contract well, and it's neither a traditional name nor based on a word that would have meaning to most people.

Luna is a minor offender in comparison, as it is a real name at least.

PS: No this it not meant to be critical of either these characters, or the people that created them. When it comes to games that span cultures occasionally there'll be little things lost in translation.
I just watched the Hollywood film Mad Max and it has names like Splendid and Toast.

While there is an element of Japanese culture that is comfortable with using foreign words in odd new ways, I'm not sure if your examples of names are really symptomatic of that. They're just fantasy names.

Now, naming a group "Soldier"? I might agree it sounds like a non-native speaker applying a word in an odd way not actually meant for English ears.

I was under the impression that Square simply renamed Versus XIII to XV. I had no idea that it was a significantly different game.

This is blowing my mind right now.
It's easy to make the games different when one wasn't actually made. And things change in production on any game. I don't think you're seeing it right if you think this change accompanied the name change.
 
Crap, the treaty signing was by far my favourite looking scene of all Versus/XV trailers.

I really hope it's still in despite the whole opening gameplay section being cut :/

I'm sure the actual party/treaty will be in cutscene form since we've seen parts of it in the trailers already, and if you played duscae to the end
we can see that they have concept art of the aftermath of the invasion too.
. It's a shame that we likely won't ever see Noctis in his formal wear tho, I really liked that design
 
Since Final Fantasy XIII I've wonder how a western developer would handle a Final Fantasy game, can't help but think FFXV would've been out years ago.

Re: Stella/Luna again:
How do you know that most of Luna's background story isn't still similar to Stella's. She still seems to be an important political figure (see the demo's Secret Movie), she still seems to have the same kind of power as Noctis (see the small crystal shards flying around her - like when Noctis summons), she still has a connection to the sky name-wise (= "moon" now instead of "star") and she still seems to be a love interest of Noctis (see the "Your date's already waiting for you." line in the TGS trailer when they talk about Luna waiting in Altissa).

That's a lot of similarities. The things that were changed probably were for the better (who knows what convoluted mess Stella's story could have turned out with Nojima/Nomura writing).
Anybody trying to make claims about Luna's personality based on a few seconds of the same scene of her sitting at a table: come on...


Btw, the young girl in the beginning of the E3 '13 trailer is Stella, right? So Noctis knows her from his childhood? It was never confirmed, though, right? I wonder if that plot point stayed the same with Luna now.
https://youtu.be/Rbwm-mzm5QA?t=11s

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THIS. Can't wait to see more of her.

That's probably Luna too see she's shown at the end. Stella has probably been gone for a long time but for whatever reason it's just getting mentioned now.

Hell, make Stella Luna's dead sister from whatever near death event occurred, Stella died, Luna survived and then go MGS on that shit.
 
Since Final Fantasy XIII I've wonder how a western developer would handle a Final Fantasy game, can't help but think FFXV would've been out years ago.
They'd outsource a lot of the work to studios around the world, and it would get done under 2 years.

And I don't think that's a bad thing, either. That's how Hollywood gets their SFX done too.

A lot of that "only a fine in-house Japanese studio could deliver such top notch gaming artistry" thinking is outdated 20th century hocus pocus. Since when do they deliver flawless masterpieces and how is it worth the wait exactly?

If I were in charge of SE I'd totally keep high level art and design in house, but I'd export a lot of the busywork to other studios.
 
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