Team Andromeda
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Ignore Youtube and most so the ones with hundreds of 'games' in the background
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
This guy has a just cause and those games are legit. He runs a review series of random games. Not sure where your hatred is from
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Team Andromeda
Member
He's the typical You Tube thumbnail grandstanding shill
Guilty_AI
Gold Member
Guy has been around since mid 2000s youtube, made the Freeman's mind series and now does reviews of obscure old games, usually abandonwares. He's anything but the "typical youtuber".
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Team Andromeda
Member
So has MJR
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Its impossible to get people to understand that all they ever own are keys, and the digital "locks" into which they fit can be unilaterally removed by the supplier because there's no law that says they need to maintain them in perpetuity!
What's more its completely unenforceable because who'd pick up the slack were the supplier go out of business or noone remained able to maintain said digital locks?
What's more its completely unenforceable because who'd pick up the slack were the supplier go out of business or noone remained able to maintain said digital locks?
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
I know it doesn't mean much, but if you're from the UK please consider signing the 'The Stop Killing Games' petition.
petition.parliament.uk
Archived Petition: Require videogame publishers to keep games they have sold in a working state
Require publishers to leave videogames (and related game assets / features) they have sold to customers in a reasonably working state when support ends, so that no further intervention whatsoever is necessary for the game to function, as a statutory consumer right.
petition.parliament.uk
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WitchHunter
Banned
They could release a vm image with binaries and let anyone pull up servers...
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
They could, but why would anyone choose to place their work in the public domain decades before their copyright expires?
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
I totally get why this upsets people, but at the end of the day, money has to be spent to keep servers online, if the money isn't there, who's going to pay to keep a game online just because? These ain't fucking charities.
Guilty_AI
Gold Member
Don't force the game to check with servers then? Let players make their own servers? There were various cases of fans being able to run private servers from games that supposedly needed company servers.
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
They could patch local saves and local server creation (P2P) like games like Quake did in 1996.
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Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
Sure, those are actual solutions, what I'm saying is it's weird people expect companies to just throw money just cuz (tbf, they do that a lot these days anyway)
Game devs could also move away from this stuff back to single player focused.
Guilty_AI
Gold Member
Even more reason to make a law on it. They weren't forced to give refunds for digital purchases 15 years ago either, nor would some since they'd only have to lose.
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
They can do both, like they did since, again, Quake 1 in 1996.
digital_ghost
Member
# game lives matter
#stop destroying our games
physical game destruction should be illegal.
Publishers:
#stop destroying our games
physical game destruction should be illegal.
Publishers:
WitchHunter
Banned
I mean if they have zero plans to continue the franchise... then why let it rot?
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Uh yes. There are quite a few games that are not available physically.
Very true, but at the same time media preservation is important. It’s always been a thing. Games are a major new media and this capability is being compromised. The companies themselves shouldn’t be responsible for maintaining it, as you’re right, it costs, and companies go out of business. It needs to be funded and performed by either publicly funded, or charity based archival libraries. But companies should be made to ALLOW that to happen. Currently most don’t. They just turn them off and they vanish into history.
Bojji
Gold Member
You can also buy movies on physical media and watch them until you die.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Really ? That vhs collection doing well for you now?
Bojji
Gold Member
Really ? That vhs collection doing well for you now?
Technology advanced since VHS and we have DVD, BD and UHD BD formats - modern players can play them all (including consoles).
You buy them once and own them for the rest of your life, same is true for majority of games through history. You also have ability to sell or trade/borrow them.
You probably don't care about things like that but many people do, letting corporations do whatever they want will be bad for everyone in the end (including you).
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coolmast3r
Member
I don't see how anyone wouldn't want to support this initiative. Unless you are a corporate shill that cares more about short term $$$ vs preserving games as a form of art.
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
Copyright for a videogame is 50 years I think?
But the vast majority of games don't make any money after a decade.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Link to support the inititative: https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2024/000007_en#
Doens't take more than a minute.
Doens't take more than a minute.
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