We see more of the militarized people showing up after the incident where Eleven escapes. It wasn't really a militarized group aside from some of Brenner's henchman. They did experiments on people so I can see why it was mostly doctors and "science stuff" because that is exactly what it was before things went to shit. A secretive dangerous organization but they weren't running and gunning or armed to the teeth because there was no need to be. Even the dudes who man handle Eleven look like orderlies from an asylum armed with tranq guns.
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Stranger Things [SPOILER THREAD] We're All Fleas Now
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We see more of the militarized people showing up after the incident where Eleven escapes. It wasn't really a militarized group aside from some of Brenner's henchman. They did experiments on people so I can see why it was mostly doctors and "science stuff" because that is exactly what it was before things went to shit. A secretive dangerous organization but they weren't running and gunning or armed to the teeth because there was no need to be. Even the dudes who man handle Eleven look like orderlies from an asylum armed with tranq guns.
I had the exact opposite reaction than the person you quoted, because I have studied and researched a lot of the CIA/MKULTRA/OPERATION PAPERCLIP projects and the facts we do know and it's actually pretty scary how many of these experiments in real life were performed covertly in the psychology department's on college campuses, in some ways a super secret base devoted just to this is kind of overstated compared to real life facts.
Freeza Under The Shower
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So I binged this. You know what I didn't like at the end of it? Monster stopped taking damage from bullets, despite being visible hurt (bleeding) from beartrap and fire combo. I get that this is kind of a D&D thing, and I think there was a line in the first episode where Lucas mentioned some other attack would just bounce off armor, but that was really stretching believability.
Additionally, that entire ending resolution seemed to be a bit more of an afterthought than planned like the rest of the show, in particular how the monster just quickly grabs Brenner. Wouldn't that mean Brenner survived into the UD and was likely recovered from it when the Sherriff and the mom went back to the portal?
I also don't think this setting would really benefit from being the setting for another (similar) story in S2, since it would likely be nowhere near as exciting. It did kind of reveal its 'Tv format' by episode four, so that's unavoidable really.
All in all I don't care about references, but this seemed simply like a Stephen King story (that shout-out too) done well. Lots of fun scene transfers and editing stuff too (hammering a nail into next thing, for instance). The reason it's in the 80s is simply because you can't make this work with better 90's camera's and cellphones. I thoroughly enjoyed it for what it does, even if I'm kinda hoping Eleven is actually gone. And of course the end scene does suggest that much since presumably the sheriff went back through the portal, yet she (or whomever, since he might as well be doing it as a personal way to deal with his daughter's death) cannot cross it. The other thing to mention is that it's heavily implied that he used to be with a government branch like Brenner's or the FBI. Look at his responses to new information (tearing up his house), and body language when he learns who Elle is.
Really enjoyed Harbour's performance as the character though, along with everybody else on the show. Kid actors are not often very good, and even the little sister having a Shining moment with the wall was good, so that's a thing.
Btw, the christmas present may have actually been Steve's, along with sounding like Nancy's dad in that scene (the way he asked it was similar to the tone her dad asks questions to her mom). Maybe that's just me over-reading it though.
Additionally, that entire ending resolution seemed to be a bit more of an afterthought than planned like the rest of the show, in particular how the monster just quickly grabs Brenner. Wouldn't that mean Brenner survived into the UD and was likely recovered from it when the Sherriff and the mom went back to the portal?
I also don't think this setting would really benefit from being the setting for another (similar) story in S2, since it would likely be nowhere near as exciting. It did kind of reveal its 'Tv format' by episode four, so that's unavoidable really.
All in all I don't care about references, but this seemed simply like a Stephen King story (that shout-out too) done well. Lots of fun scene transfers and editing stuff too (hammering a nail into next thing, for instance). The reason it's in the 80s is simply because you can't make this work with better 90's camera's and cellphones. I thoroughly enjoyed it for what it does, even if I'm kinda hoping Eleven is actually gone. And of course the end scene does suggest that much since presumably the sheriff went back through the portal, yet she (or whomever, since he might as well be doing it as a personal way to deal with his daughter's death) cannot cross it. The other thing to mention is that it's heavily implied that he used to be with a government branch like Brenner's or the FBI. Look at his responses to new information (tearing up his house), and body language when he learns who Elle is.
Really enjoyed Harbour's performance as the character though, along with everybody else on the show. Kid actors are not often very good, and even the little sister having a Shining moment with the wall was good, so that's a thing.
Btw, the christmas present may have actually been Steve's, along with sounding like Nancy's dad in that scene (the way he asked it was similar to the tone her dad asks questions to her mom). Maybe that's just me over-reading it though.
I figured it took fire to really hurt the Demogorgon as a call back to that first game of DnD. It was a fireball that was needed to defeat it but Will didn't roll it back then. Of course it "caught" him on his ride home because of that. I think that's why fire was able to hurt it when bullets did nothing.
Get fucked, Barb.
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Chmpocalypse
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Way, waaaaay too tryhard of a 'critique'.
Christopher
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Barb was so 80s I wanted her to stay she made the time period feel awesome.
Too early and non necessary to kill her off
Too early and non necessary to kill her off
I thought it was weird they never really investigated Barb's disappearance or heard more from her mom other than that one phone call asking if she came home.
I know she wasn't the focus of the show, but that was a jarring omission in the show. Loved everything else about it though. They got the 80's feel right and I thought the flashbacks for character back stories were pretty good.
I know she wasn't the focus of the show, but that was a jarring omission in the show. Loved everything else about it though. They got the 80's feel right and I thought the flashbacks for character back stories were pretty good.
-ImaginaryInsider
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It's likely a thread that will be explored or at least mentioned during the next season. Having a monster abduct a person and kill them in another dimension was effectively a crazy and unprovable conversation to try to have during the events of the first season.
Personally, I think it will continue to haunt Nancy.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Nah, Barb will get a brief mention at best.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Not at all. Barb is incredibly overrated.
-ImaginaryInsider
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I don't think Barb needs to get much honestly, one good scene would be enough given the craziness of her disappearance. I do think she'll get a better nod than a picture in the background of Nancy's room or a missing poster.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Eh, maybe Barb will show up in a Nancy nightmare sequence.
Christopher
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The character of Barb could have just been a good sidekick to Nancy - one of Steves throwaway douche friends should have gotten killed by the thing.
Barb again to me look like a great time period piece character.
She might come back given Will did
Barb again to me look like a great time period piece character.
She might come back given Will did
Jest Chillin
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Nope. Eleven couldn't sense her while she could sense Will. Barb is gone.
Barb's death is probably the reason she's popular like she is. Like, it was the catalyst. I don't think turning her into a sidekick would've been much better for the character.
Yeah, she's toast. Had a huge worm crawling out of her mouth and everything.
Pretty sure she was dead and used as nutrients for those bugs.
The ending was weirdly edited. It shows Jonathon, Nancy, and Steve following the lights, so I was expecting them to show up at the school to save the kids, but then they just never show up again until the hospital.
Didn't like how the monster conveniently kills all of the "bad guys" either, but those small things didn't ruin my enjoyment of the show. I'm not sure how a second season will work, but I look forward to it.
Didn't like how the monster conveniently kills all of the "bad guys" either, but those small things didn't ruin my enjoyment of the show. I'm not sure how a second season will work, but I look forward to it.
Jag
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The creators recently said in an interview that the fallout from everything that happened will be explored next season since everything in the show happened in a span of only a few days.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/08/19/find-out-the-fate-of-two-stranger-things-characters?watch=
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The company who made the Barb corpse model showed it off on their facebook page and yeah going by that model Barb is deader than dead so unless zombies are a thing next season or ghosts or something then we aren't seeing Barb outside of a flashback
AHA-Lambda
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Just finished it, loved it ^_^
Only one thing plot wise stood out to me though as weird, why did they even bother with that scene setting up with Indiana AV club thing? That went absolutely nowhere =/
Only one thing plot wise stood out to me though as weird, why did they even bother with that scene setting up with Indiana AV club thing? That went absolutely nowhere =/
It was more to set up the ham radio for the kids to use later on.
pretty done
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Didn't even know people cared about Barb till I read this thread. She was a terrible character and she won't be missed. Trying to make Nancy feel like a slut cuz no dudes wanted to hook up with her...
Yeah. It was after the Ham Radio and they listened/tapped that conversation and wanted to know who the kids were, so the fake AV club to get the teacher to tell who used the radio.
Permanently A
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So pissed about Nancy getting back with Steve. Wtf is she thinking lol.
Netflix has ordered a second season and the creators did say they would revisit the characters from this season. Doesn't mean it'll be a continuation though. Can't wait to see what these guys do next.
El is obviously still alive and Hop is taking care of her now like she's his own daughter. But seems like she's trapped in the upside down probably has to recharge.
That X-Men comic they kept referring too is the first appearance of the Dark Phenoix btw
I like what they did with the Steve - Jonathan - Nancy triangle. Steve is a douchebag the whole time until the end where he redeems himself in a pretty big way and expresses regret over his treatment of Jonathan. Jonathan seems like a great caring guy until he starts taking creeper pics. Neither of them are portrayed as one note characters. Jonathan and Nancy getting together would have been so cliche.
Chained Prometheus
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Yeah, I was kinda surprised to hear just how popular Barb was in the fanbase after I finished watching the whole first season. I enjoyed her and all, but I never really felt like we got to know her well enough for her death to be a huge deal. It felt more like a means to an end for Nancy to get involved in the big mystery and lead into her interactions with Jonathan and their full-on discovery of the monster.
I think she just happened to be a small part that was really well-acted and her "look" was one of the best visual throwbacks to the 1980's.
Man, what a show. Binged through it last night/this morning.
The second Mike started talking about El living with him and them going to snow ball I knew there would be no happy ending for them, but it still brought me close to tears. As did the scene where they find Will's "body".
Going to have to persuade my flatmates to watch it so I have an excuse to rewatch.
The second Mike started talking about El living with him and them going to snow ball I knew there would be no happy ending for them, but it still brought me close to tears. As did the scene where they find Will's "body".
Going to have to persuade my flatmates to watch it so I have an excuse to rewatch.
The Lone Courier
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So did the monster also kill the two hunters that also went missing? And also was Hopper part of the FBI or CIA or something? He seemed to be expecting the black car he gets into near tge end.
Lactose_Intolerant
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Her parents were over at the main family's house when they found Will's body.
GruntOfAction
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It's assumed so, given they shot a deer which caused it to bleed and attract the monster who then took them by surprise.
I don't think so,he just knows that he is on their radar after all that had happened.
Phew, thought for sure Steve was going to bite it. Just finished it but I hope that baseball bat swing has been gif'ed.
Didn't see that Will twist coming, poor guy, but I guess without that the ending would have been too neatly tied up in a bow, what with the hint that Ell is somehow out there.
Didn't see that Will twist coming, poor guy, but I guess without that the ending would have been too neatly tied up in a bow, what with the hint that Ell is somehow out there.
That stupid badass swing made me like Steve after seven episodes
Christopher
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How did they film this where it doesn't look crystal clear HD it LOOKS like it filmed in the 80s
jadedm17
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I had a similar thought, or at least e repeat of the final scene in The Crow when I watched it last week : So many bullets at minimum means so many holes.
I'm also realizing that not everything is Breaking Bad where every single moment of every scene tells more of a bigger story and makes complete sense; The more you analyze the more you'll find to pick apart in anything.
Stranger Things is Jurassic World to me : Absolute blast, incredible music, don't look too close.
Yea, they did an incredible job or turning him around quick.
http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/str...uffer-brothers-interview-season-2-1201816664/
I love the idea of him being in the wrong crowd, wanting to do better and Nancy turning him as opposed to how Barb thought they were turning her.
Lots of people who are into sci fi shows today were, themselves, boring stick-in-the-mud dweebs like Barb in high school. They're just identifying with her now, insisting that she was secretly cool, as they pretend themselves to be.
Rygar 8 Bit
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betting were going to get a night of the creeps/slither situation from those slugs for season 2
I was actually thinking about this and wondering if instead of just trying to do a similar story but a year later they tackle another scifi/horror genre that got a lot of love during the 80's like the zombie movie. Not sure how they'd do it but it could be cool and give season 2 a much more distinct feel while still continuing the story.
I was kind of a stick in the mud dweeb in high school. I was not cool.
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