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[Einchy]

lol

Jesus really?

Kappa

 

[LowParry]

OH HOHOHOHOHO

Fixed

 

[FluxWaveZ]

I hit rank 300 and the first person I need to face is rank 6 Ken.

 

[gigantor21]

I just beat a rank 950 player, what?

I think... I think I beat Daigo.

I beat a 200 rank Ken easily, only to get wrecked by a 1000 rank Bison--one of only two Bisons I've fought all weekend.

The rankings don't tell the whole story, LOL.

 

[KingBroly]

When does this beta end?

 

[Karsticles]

Do you ?


Worst part is, she was stunned and I dropped input in my finisher kick, cost me the match.

I still cry. I actually punched my wall.

Here is mine:
I had a Bison mirror last night where we were both to a sliver of health. He goes for Head Stomp, and I use Psycho Blast. We are both hit simultaneously (and in the win animation, you can see that both of us are in the hitstun animation), but he gets the win.

:-/

I've been out most of the weekend, any new info on Bison other than the nerf to inferno?



I mained Claw through all of SFIV and kept telling people he was shit. He never got good

I posted a big list of changes. Off the top of my head:

Nerfs:
df.HP hits once now, but might be faster/have more range.
c.HK no longer crushes (grrr).
c.MP range reduced.
Psycho Inferno now unsafe on block (all versions, including V-Trigger).
Psycho Inferno flame height significantly reduced (garbage as an anti-air now).
Psycho Blast now negative on block (all versions).
Psycho Blast range reduced.
c.HK unsafe at max range (unconfirmed; SRK forum claim).
c.HP range nerfed (unconfirmed; SRK forum claim).
s.HP no longer links to c.MP (SRK says it never did, but I swear it did).
Damage reduced (not sure on what, exactly).

Buffs:
Psycho Blast juggles now (not noteworthy; he already had Knee Press and Inferno juggles).
s.HK and s.HP crush.
Teleport dash is default (doesn't pass through players; VT version does).
EX Psycho Blast travels much slower.
s.LP is now special cancelable (unconfirmed; SRK forum claim).
VEX chains seem more consistent now.
Knee Press x CA seems more consistent now.

I am probably forgetting a few, though.

For some reason I interpreted the phrase of "nerfed him to shit" meaning that they turned him in to shit. My bad.

And yeah, I've restarted it and excited/re-entered. Nothing. Oh well, not a big deal. I'm studying between matches anyways... so maybe this is is good.

My bad for being so ambiguous in my wording.

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

Kappa

lol too easy

Fixed

lmao

When does this beta end?

in like 50 mins

 

[KingBroly]

lol too easy


lmao


in like 50 mins

Alright. I won't hop back on then. Unless Fight Money carried over (It won't). Then I'd just idle.

 

[RM8]

Am I crazy in thinking the game performs better on PC during the actual matches than during training mode? I particularly notice a slight frame drop during Chun's Super but only while training, this doesn't happen when I'm facing other characters.

Also, is there a PC performance thread? We had one for MKX... but then it was MKX :x

 

[Shadoken]

I swear there's alternating conclusions of Karin being garbage then Karin being OP in this thread.

Every character is OP and garbage at the same time ,in every fighter.

If you main the character , they are garbage
If you don't main them , then they are OP.
If you think your character is "Fine" , then that means you know he/she is OP , but you don't want the Capcops to find out.

Edit-

Kappa

Lmao

 

[KAL2006]

I mean, you have to upload it somewhere to share it. Are you suggesting that Sony provide a web player of sorts and unlimited hosting for the feature when other options already exist?

Or perhaps let me upload it on a server such as youtube but allow me to easily link them to the video via a psn message.

 

[Einchy]

How the hell do I block Birdie's chain? Is it just a long range grapple?

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

How the hell do I block Birdie's chain? Is it just a long range grapple?

Just block it normally. His jumping dive is the one that grabs.

 

[Shadoken]

How the hell do I block Birdie's chain? Is it just a long range grapple?

Its a hit.

The one where he jumps at you with the chain is a grapple.

 

[direct_quote]

Every character is OP and garbage at the same time.

If you main the character , they are garbage
If you don't main them , then they are OP.
If you think your character is "Fine" , then that means you know he/she is OP , but you don't want the Capcops to find out.

Edit-



Lmao

Just look at Vega in the test location stages of USF4. The Vega players said making his jab links 2 frames made him too easy, so Capcom reverted it... Best thing is to say nothing at all...

 

[Kalamari]

Played someone from Brazil, I'm in the U.S., the match was laggy as fuck.

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

Just look at Vega in the test location stages of USF4. The Vega players said making his jab links 2 frames made him too easy, so Capcom reverted it... Best thing is to say nothing at all...

This aint a loke test tho

 

[mnz]

Just look at Vega in the test location stages of USF4. The Vega players said making his jab links 2 frames made him too easy, so Capcom reverted it... Best thing is to say nothing at all...

Well yeah, 2 frame links? It's not a game for babies that want to watch an episode of Dora between jabs, come on.

 

[RK9039]

I beat a 200 rank Ken easily, only to get wrecked by a 1000 rank Bison--one of only two Bisons I've fought all weekend.

The rankings don't tell the whole story, LOL.

Lmao, true.

I'm like +30,000, but to be fair I haven't really played much. Charlie is too awesome in this game.

 

[ExVicis]

Kappa

I maintain that I'm still right though.

Fixed

Damn straight.

Edit: I still haven't figured out these run combos but man Ken has a lot of other shit. Just found out you can completely end that Back MP>HP>Hado with Ken's CA. Kn has a fuck ton of combos if there's apparently a whole world of them I haven't even touched yet.

 

[Tain]

Giving up on PC, no matches in the past hour.

 

[Uzzy]

Just played two very laggy Russians. Hellish stuff. When it's bad, it's real bad.

 

[Ferrio]

I personally really dig it, but it has to be used really sparingly, and you are never going to get too much of a charge out of it. I do really hope they buff it a little.

One strategy I use is to hit the opponent with R. Mika's Rope Throw, follow up with Nadeshko (holding towards the opponent, so she hits them as they are stumbling towards the wall), and immediately start using the v-skill as they are spinning in the air. It will power you up enough to do, like, one hundred and fifty more points of damage on your next throw. Of course, you are sacrificing the seventy points of guaranteed damage you get from the fierce kick followup (or the one fifty if you have a bar of meter, at which point you should just use it instead of this)...

Yeah, it really does need a little tweaking, eh?

Why fierce kick follow up? You can wingless airplane after the rope throw.

 

[Einchy]

Walk up, throw, it does nothing, I get thrown. X2 in the same match

Capcom pls

I'm getting a larger amount of laggy matches than I was yesterday.

Just block it normally. His jumping dive is the one that grabs.

Its a hit.

The one where he jumps at you with the chain is a grapple.

Hmm, weird.

 

[mnz]

Floe made a Karin/Vega tutorial: http://www.twitch.tv/floe/v/22439221

Haven't watched the whole thing yet.

 

[Slaythe]

Given the amount of nerfs the old characters got, I don't think cammy karin and vega are going to stay this way on final game.

So the tutorials are probably not gonna stay relevant super long, but it's still nice.

Plus I think they said they will turn the Beta on and off randomly.

 

[Spman2099]

Why fierce kick follow up? You can wingless airplane after the rope throw.

So, this is mid-screen (I probably should have mentioned that), using Nadeshko. You can use the Wingless Airplane, after her forward fierce popup normal, but it has to be the EX version.

I am now wondering if the airborne spin state actually gives you more charge time than simply letting them stumble towards the wall would...

*is consumed by sadness*

*edit*

Okay, yeah, you could totally followup with a wingless airplane instead of the dropkick for more damage. I am a big, dumb idiot with tunnel vision. Also, I clearly don't know what I am doing.

*the sadness encroaches further*

 

[RedEther]

Any good combos you can recommend that utilise quick step?

1.St.Hp into v-skill (aka step) into crouching jab into srk, tastu, etc. You can use an extra jab to hit confirm it.
2.Roundhouse into vskill, cr.lp only links on counter hit.

While in VT you gain new links and they are a lot easier to do but there are some 1 frame links as well.

 

[Alchemist]

~

 

[Ferrio]

So, this is mid-screen (I probably should have mentioned that), using Nadeshko. You can use the Wingless Airplane, after her forward fierce popup normal, but it has to be the EX version.

I am now wondering if the airborne spin state actually gives you more charge time than simply letting them stumble towards the wall would...

*is consumed by sadness*

No, you can always do wingless airplane after her followup, not just EX version. Also you can always wingless airplane after a rope throw even without assist at midscreen.


edit: Oh you're putting the F+HP in there. I don't screw with that, just go for the plane after a rope bounce or assist hit. I like saving meter for EX giant swing.

 

[Kain]

I posted a big list of changes. Off the top of my head:

Nerfs:
df.HP hits once now, but might be faster/have more range.
c.HK no longer crushes (grrr).
c.MP range reduced.
Psycho Inferno now unsafe on block (all versions, including V-Trigger).
Psycho Inferno flame height significantly reduced (garbage as an anti-air now).
Psycho Blast now negative on block (all versions).
Psycho Blast range reduced.
c.HK unsafe at max range (unconfirmed; SRK forum claim).
c.HP range nerfed (unconfirmed; SRK forum claim).
s.HP no longer links to c.MP (SRK says it never did, but I swear it did).
Damage reduced (not sure on what, exactly).

Buffs:
Psycho Blast juggles now (not noteworthy; he already had Knee Press and Inferno juggles).
s.HK and s.HP crush.
Teleport dash is default (doesn't pass through players; VT version does).
EX Psycho Blast travels much slower.
s.LP is now special cancelable (unconfirmed; SRK forum claim).
VEX chains seem more consistent now.
Knee Press x CA seems more consistent now.

I am probably forgetting a few, though.


My bad for being so ambiguous in my wording.

Most of that sounds horrible :S


It's stuff like this that makes me regret playing before the have is out, I would have been happier without playing the first beta.

 

[Doosi]

Just tried playing usf4 shit that game is slow

 

[direct_quote]

Just tried playing usf4 shit that game is slow

Just play Yun or Cammy and it won't be.

 

[Zombegoast]

Hey guys, I made a Nash tutorial on how to play him. If anyone's thinking of picking him up please check it out. Lots of cool information in there.

Spoiler

pls don't see this capcom

Just did it. The window to get out is so specific it's disgusting. Ryu can just parry it and throw it, Birdie can Cr.Mp, Mika with foward MP and Ken can just crouch Jab.

 

[105.Will]

Anyone find a way to break the beta so you can just play local vs?

 

[BiggNife]

I...don't think anyone is super OP. I've fought an army of Karins with Vega and I never felt like I was at any kind of disadvantage

I will say ~as of right now~ Necalli and Rashid feel underpowered compared to the rest of the cast but it's so early at this point that there's probably some tech people haven't discovered yet. And, as everyone has said, shit's going to change a lot between now and March.

 

[ExVicis]

Anyone find a way to break the beta so you can just play local vs?

Best you got is go to training mode and change the dummy's settings.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Something is weird about cammy's model

It looks like her head is bigger than the rest of her body

Are you sure that's what you meant to say? Think about it.

has anyone been able to get games?

Been matchless on PC for aaaages now, what gives? Tried a few restarts too.

Nothing for hours. Also PC.

 

[gozu]

Am I wrong, or does it look like the LP system is more generous than the PP system? I'm hitting my ceiling around 3400 Lps, about 1k more than I had PPs in USF4.

Is everybody here (who have played more than 50 matches) above their SF4 PP level?

I'm ranked in the top 1000 but I often get wrecked by people rank 9000

 

[LakeEarth]

I...don't think anyone is super OP. I've fought an army of Karins with Vega and I never felt like I was at any kind of disadvantage

I will say ~as of right now~ Necalli and Rashid feel underpowered compared to the rest of the cast but it's so early at this point that there's probably some tech people haven't discovered yet. And, as everyone has said, shit's going to change a lot between now and March.

Trying both extensively, I'll agree, especially for Necalli. Rashid's pokes are nothing to write home about (especially considering Karen's buttons), but playing him immediately after Necalli I felt like I was in heaven. Lots of pokeable gaps in Necalli's pressure too, although I'm sure there's some better blockstings that I don't know about. Finally, his V-Skill needs something. Faster, more blockstun or better recovery, something. They are crap compared to C-Viper's.

That being said, they have to do something about Rashid's overhead. It looks like you're in midair, but I've seen some low hitting pokes knock me out of it mid-air somehow. It makes no sense.

 

[rocK`]

Are you sure that's what you meant to say? Think about it.





Nothing for hours. Also PC.

Looks like somethings up with PC players. went downstairs and was perfectly fine on my PS4.

Luckily changed my TV settings and input lag went away.

Either way, Karin and Ryu seem to be the most fun for me to play as right now.

Haven't had time (nor really care to tbh) try vega, birdie and cammy.

Everyone else, outside of Bison aren't that fun to me.

 

[ExVicis]

Are you sure that's what you meant to say? Think about it.





Nothing for hours. Also PC.

I'm the same but I'm PS4

 

[Dark Ninja]

Im getting tons of matches on PC

 

[vulva]

Looks like somethings up with PC players. went downstairs and was perfectly fine on my PS4.

Luckily changed my TV settings and input lag went away.

Either way, Karin and Ryu seem to be the most fun for me to play as right now.

Haven't had time (nor really care to tbh) try vega, birdie and cammy.

Everyone else, outside of Bison aren't that fun to me.

PS4 here, no matches all day

 

[FluxWaveZ]

I thought that the game wasn't taking LP/rank into account when matching players up, but it has to be now, based on the people I'm consistently facing. Ended up going against the same Karin player 3 times, earlier. Perhaps it's based on player level.

 

[Einchy]

I thought that the game wasn't taking LP/rank into account when matching players up, but it has to be now, based on the people I'm consistently facing. Ended up going against the same Karin player 3 times, earlier.

I think it's just random since I'm ranked 7k or so and got matched up with whoever is rank tenth.

 

[ZeroTheShadow]

Trying both extensively, I'll agree, especially for Necalli. Rashid's pokes are nothing to write home about (especially considering Karen's buttons), but playing him immediately after Necalli I felt like I was in heaven. Lots of pokeable gaps in Necalli's pressure too, although I'm sure there's some better blockstings that I don't know about. Finally, his V-Skill needs something. Faster, more blockstun or better recovery, something. They are crap compared to C-Viper's.

That being said, they have to do something about Rashid's overhead. It looks like you're in midair, but I've seen some low hitting pokes knock me out of it mid-air somehow. It makes no sense.

Dude Rashid's buttons are better than Karin's.

 

[kirblar]

I thought that the game wasn't taking LP/rank into account when matching players up, but it has to be now, based on the people I'm consistently facing. Ended up going against the same Karin player 3 times, earlier. Perhaps it's based on player level.

I think they've been adding filters as the beta's been going on to see how they affect matchmaking. Early on I was getting nothing but foreigners.

 

[Pompadour]

Am I wrong, or does it look like the LP system is more generous than the PP system? I'm hitting my ceiling around 3400 Lps, about 1k more than I had PPs in USF4.

Is everybody here (who have played more than 50 matches) above their SF4 PP level?

I'm ranked in the top 1000 but I often get wrecked by people rank 9000

It seems more that people haven't reached the point where things level off. I was in the top 1000 last night with something like 2100 LP and I woke up this morning at rank 2010.

 

[onionfrog]

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