Right, but it also has a good trajectory for getting behind a fireball throwing Ryu... Was hoping to use it for the purposes of punishing an ill advised hadouken...
Oh well, guess not.
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Street Fighter V Beta 2 Thread: Welcome, future 21007s! Now on PC!
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Right, but it also has a good trajectory for getting behind a fireball throwing Ryu... Was hoping to use it for the purposes of punishing an ill advised hadouken...
Oh well, guess not.
Would be pretty silly for a move that already has a lot of utility to have the added benefit of mobility option with no/little recovery, especially on a character that is super dangerous once she gets in.
Stone Ocean
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It's short because it throws whoever gets hit forward, keeping people in corners.
That's basically my complaint... If whiffs... When it looks like it shouldn't ...
Her HCB+P throw seems to have a longer range...
After two live matches, I stopped attempting the HCB+K throw...
Stone Ocean
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The kick throw is fucking scary if you land it because you can do nasty cross over setups afterwards. It needs to be risky.
I think they need to change the animation then to show it's short range, because the animation now absolutely looks like she's grabbing her opponent when it the move doesn't connect.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
All 3 command throws have their uses.
HCB+P - most range and most damage; puts opponent on the opposite side and far away
HCB+K - short range and low damage; keeps opponent on same side and close
QCF+K - anti-air; seems to lose out to most air attacks but can be comboed into and has the distinction of being the only meterless way to combo into a mic boost
HCB+P - most range and most damage; puts opponent on the opposite side and far away
HCB+K - short range and low damage; keeps opponent on same side and close
QCF+K - anti-air; seems to lose out to most air attacks but can be comboed into and has the distinction of being the only meterless way to combo into a mic boost
PLASTICA-MAN
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Modders didn't uncensor it yet (reverting it back to the previous state)?
Sorcerer Supreme
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I wouldn't post about there here
lucebuce12
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The beta went up for a few hours, while they were just checking if everything is fine.
It's still going to go live at the planned date of 18th-20th
So, if anyone's SFV is crashing (PC) seemingly at random times. If you have a Wacom, disable the drivers and unplug the tablet. That seems to fix it. I read it on the steam forum for it and so far it seems to be working. No crash yet. Will report if it still crashes after all
... But how will I draw SFV fan art while waiting for my next match??? D:
Demoskinos
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Damn there is still another beta phase? I deleted this awhile ago thinking everything was over.
lucebuce12
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Yup, going to be up from 18th-20th Dec but this will probably be the last (announced) time the servers are up. Until the game releases, of course.
Here's the official blog post with more exact timings.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
That was you? I remember our match because you were only player that use Mika against me. Rest of the players that I faced against only used Ryu.
Good Match!
Scrub Mcgrubb
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They actually beefed up the encryption significantly on the game... modding is currently impossible unless someone can figure out the new key (on the last beta it was a stupidly simple key).
I did a post that broke down her throw ranges and damage in beta 2.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=182805374&postcount=4074
Curious if it's changed.
This was the first SFV beta I participated in, so I can't say if it changed or not, but damn is the range on that throw short. You can have her hands overlapping her opponent's ankles and it doesn't connect. Frustrating.
Seems like it's over ... But it starts up again next weekend...
Zombegoast
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These past two testing made me realize how SF4 made me bad at fighting game. I have 9.5k and 3k with Decapre but I never properly do crouch techs and punishes because they never work online. But once i go back to playing 5. I'm able to do all of those automatically because I know I can pull them off.
Shadow_Lord
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Crouch techs have been removed from SFV tho
If anything that will just make modders more determined
PLASTICA-MAN
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I believe this is pretty old news and has been in the thread already. Better encryption on the beta doesn't necessarily mean the final version will be as difficult to mod,it ,ay just be related to not wanting story, character appearance, stage or costume leaks
Lost Fragment
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Or they had major leaks because they didn't lock things down properly the last time and want to run the beta on PC without having that happen again.
Dumb article on many levels.
Reading that "article" was a complete waste of time. Not to mention stupid...
I checked the roster discussion thread and the FGH to see if it wasn't posted yet so I guess I'll put it in here then. Friend of mine just linked this interesting video about trades and counter hits in SFV. Not sure if this got brought up before though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdNXIIVWTYU&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdNXIIVWTYU&feature=youtu.be
SolidSnakex
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The tournament during PSX is probably the highest level play we've seen so far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5oNSNNqqOM
Look for character demonstrations with Combofiend and Mike Ross.
Spinosaurus
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I was watching that video and the commentators were discussing the safety of Vega's roll on block and I was thinking that Capcom should implement a "Punish" indicator when you are hit during the recovery frames of a move. As a Counter Hit is tagged on start up frames of moves (except for specific instances like the recovery frames of DPs) so they wouldn't occupy the same function. Plus, I wouldn't add a bonus to Punish hits, it would just be a quick indicator to new players that the move you chose can punish the move they used on block. It would be like the Cross-Up indicator in that it just gives players more information about what's happening. I do sometimes wonder if the player just didn't block and my punish isn't actually a legit punish.
Any thoughts? Is there something in the game already that covers this that I overlooked?
Isn't this already in training mode? I remember seeing it somewhere, or maybe I'm thinking of a different game (Tekken perhaps). Not sure if I'd want it in a real match though.
Weeaboosuke
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Infiltration has truly shown me the light when it comes to using Nash. I had no idea Bazooka Knee was so reliable.
KI has it/will have it. Was part of the UI update they revealed recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5oNSNNqqOM&list=PLbiHEMgy-HodzM2GDQ0DBk7-KKSjlVOo_&index=7
The first couple of matches of the video are between Combofiend and another Capcom employee, Shigeno. His Chun Li and Ken are so solid, some of the best SFV play I've seen yet.
The first couple of matches of the video are between Combofiend and another Capcom employee, Shigeno. His Chun Li and Ken are so solid, some of the best SFV play I've seen yet.
I think this is a great idea.
I'd also like for there to be extensive frame data in the moves list, or at least an optional graphic on screen during training mode that says if you are plus or minus on block, as in VF5.
But Capcom seems resistant to adding frame data.
Hell, I'd like the otion to turn on visible hit boxes while playing, so that you can really understand what's going on in the game and learn much faster. I heard that option was in the vita version of SFxT.
I'd be fine with all of that in training mode. Maybe they're afraid PC players would be able to mod hitboxes into regular play (not like that would be that big of a deal, anyways).
I think Capcom is hesitant to reveal hitboxes because it inevitably draws ire from the really wonky looking ones. Even if the hitbox is displaced from the visual aspect of a move (like a hitbox extended way, way past a fist) is for a very good and balanced reason, it still pisses people off.
I think they are more pissed off when there is no way for them to see what's actually going on. Some understanding is much better than 'wait, why doesn't my kick reach?', especially when you add the opponents wonky hit box into the mix as well.
I remember with ssf2:T there was a Japanese guide book called 'yoga book hyper', with hit box pictures on pretty much all attack sprites for all characters, that was a real eye opener. And later on you could get a hit box plugin for Emulated ST.
If they really want this to be beginner friendly, letting the user see behind the curtain will let them figure out how the game is meant to be played much faster. It seems they are adding quite a bit to training mode with different recording actions etc. hit boxes and frame data should be the next step.
And I guess vita SFxT shows it's a possibility at least.
Gotta use them V-Reversals.
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