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Street Fighter V |OT40002| it's been a Guile, but Urien for a wait

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Xeteh

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Whales said:
I've never seen anyone complain about the hori commander, if you're a dpad user you should get it IMO

lol, I can't even do a hadoken with the dpad so yeah..
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I've seen people in this thread either say the DPad is great or its shit on the commander. So who knows.

I'm surprised by that, I have no issues inputting specials on an analog but I feel like I end up jumping constantly when I don't mean to.
 
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The Mango Sentinel

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Xeteh said:
I've seen people in this thread either say the DPad is great or its shit on the commander. So who knows.

I'm surprised by that, I have no issues inputting specials on an analog but I feel like I end up jumping constantly when I don't mean to.
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The pad on the regular fighting commander is better than the one on the fighting commander 4 in my opinion.
 
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Omnistalgic

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GGS man...sorry i was playing a little weak at the end there, wanted to give you a few matches before signing off...

Next time Chaotix, I’m done for the night brah...Give Flux some hell for me, I didn’t feel like playing his guessing game today I was just trying to DP him...

I’ll be glad when Rog comes out man...lol
 
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spazchicken

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Xeteh said:
I don't trust you.
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I bought my Madcatz TE back in 2009 for $80 on sale and you can see them on Amazon for $400 right now, so he's for real about them holding their value.

I seriously started using my stick not even six months ago after using a pad my whole life and I honestly can't go back. I'm not going to say it has made me a better player but my inputs are more distinct and cleaner than they ever have been.

Trying one out at a friends house isn't going to be enough. You'll need weeks or months with it before the muscle memory really grabs a hold to where it's second nature and you can honestly compare it to the pad you've been using your whole life. I was still debating up until two months ago and after a lot of back and fourth, the stick feels better for me now.

I actually have my hours of competitive SF play with the stick through Steam.

40 hours of SFIV with a stick and 200 hours of SFV with a stick.

My brain has completely switched over which actually kind of makes me sad, like leaving an old friend for a new one but it's for the better for me personally.

Edit: I also recommend getting an octagonal gate so you'll still have that eight directional feel like with a pad. Square (standard) and circular gates suck. I can't use them.
 
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Xeteh

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spazchicken said:
I bought my Madcatz TE back in 2009 for $80 on sale and you can see them on Amazon for $400 right now, so he's for real about them holding their value.

I seriously started using my stick not even six months ago after using a pad my whole life and I honestly can't go back. I'm not going to say it has made me a better player but my inputs are more distinct and cleaner than they ever have been.

Trying one out at a friends house isn't going to be enough. You'll need weeks or months with it before the muscle memory really grabs a hold to where it's second nature and you can honestly compare it to the pad you've been using your whole life. I was still debating up until two months ago and after a lot of back and fourth, the stick feels better for me now.

I actually have my hours of competitive SF play with the stick through Steam.

40 hours of SFIV with a stick and 200 hours of SFV with a stick.

My brain has completely switched over which actually kind of makes me sad, like leaving an old friend for a new one but it's for the better for me personally.
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Oh, I'm just talking shit to qcfx2, not that I don't actually believe him.

Honestly, if I had the cash I'd buy a stick but between not having a lot of money to spend on one and not really being sure if it will work for me, that is the real reason I'm holding off. I know they're worth it but its a big investment.
 
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bob_arctor

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spazchicken said:
I bought my Madcatz TE back in 2009 for $80 on sale and you can see them on Amazon for $400 right now, so he's for real about them holding their value.

I seriously started using my stick not even six months ago after using a pad my whole life and I honestly can't go back. I'm not going to say it has made me a better player but my inputs are more distinct and cleaner than they ever have been.

Trying one out at a friends house isn't going to be enough. You'll need weeks or months with it before the muscle memory really grabs a hold to where it's second nature and you can honestly compare it to the pad you've been using your whole life. I was still debating up until two months ago and after a lot of back and fourth, the stick feels better for me now.

I actually have my hours of competitive SF play with the stick through Steam.

40 hours of SFIV with a stick and 200 hours of SFV with a stick.

My brain has completely switched over which actually kind of makes me sad, like leaving an old friend for a new one but it's for the better for me personally.
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Interestingly, I can go back to a (good) pad very easily, like trying on an old pair of jeans that still fit. In fact, I would say my charging skills are still better on a pad. But yeah, it's stick fo' life for me now. Love 'em to death. Speaking of charging--the Hayabusa stick is absolutely no good for me when using Guile. I *need* the tension of the LS-40. I was missing tons of flash kick punishes on the Hayabusa. Makes me want to install a 2lb spring to see....
 
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Xeteh

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bob_arctor said:
Interestingly, I can go back to a (good) pad very easily, like trying on an old pair of jeans that still fit. In fact, I would say my charging skills are still better on a pad. But yeah, it's stick fo' life for me now. Love 'em to death. Speaking of charging--the Hayabusa stick is absolutely no good for me when using Guile. I *need* the tension of the LS-40. I was missing tons of flash kick punishes on the Hayabusa. Makes me want to install a 2lb spring to see....
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For whatever reason, I think charge moves are super easy on pad until it comes to charge supers. Bfbf just doesn't work for me on dpad, I guess I slide my thumb too much but even trying to lift and press, I'm too imprecise. If I was better with it I might have played Guile because I'm more defensive by nature.
 
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spazchicken

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bob_arctor said:
Interestingly, I can go back to a (good) pad very easily, like trying on an old pair of jeans that still fit. In fact, I would say my charging skills are still better on a pad. But yeah, it's stick fo' life for me now. Love 'em to death. Speaking of charging--the Hayabusa stick is absolutely no good for me when using Guile. I *need* the tension of the LS-40. I was missing tons of flash kick punishes on the Hayabusa. Makes me want to install a 2lb spring to see....
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Maybe my issue is character based as well. I bet if I tried Ryu with a pad it will still feel natural. I've only played Nash in SFV and 99% of the time with a stick so playing him with a pad feels strange.

Also this has nothing to do with anything but, one of the reasons I switch to stick is because of charge characters. When SFIV first came out I played it so much that I developed a hand injury from using so much force holding 'down back' under the stress of intense combat. I had to steer and shift with my right hand.

Not too long after that I got my stick, didn't really feel good using it, didn't want another injury from pads so I just gave up on SFIV all together and my stick was sitting for six or seven years before SFV released.

But, I also don't play charge characters anymore for reasons unrelated to the injury.
 
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Edgeward

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Sassafras1594 said:
Thanks for the matches edge that was alot of fun. Gave me insight on hard hard vega is when im using necalli. Hope the connection was good.
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Connection was fine, no worries there. Just work on your pressure plan and have the courage to commit to your reads/plan. You are very defensive for a Nec player, and while it is good you don't wake up dp it is too much to your disadvantage. You are effectively eliminating your option, I never had to worry in knockdown situation for it. And learn to punish the vega roll, it's -6 for the lk version. I did it a lot and got away scot-free.


GGs, my man
 
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FluxWaveZ

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cHaotix8 said:
Inv sent, Flux.

Yeah Omni, looking forward to our next set. Last one was fun.
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GGs. I actually feel like I can keep up now, and I actually have the confidence to win. Still, I still go crazy sometimes, and that doesn't help me since you always have an answer for when I do.

The problems I'll have to address now are: getting stuck in the corner and... well, I'll watch the replays to think of another. Keeping cool is probably one.
 
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cHaotix8

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GG's Flux! I need to grab some grub. Gotta get those anti airs down to keep me grounded.

FluxWaveZ said:
GGs. I actually feel like I can keep up now, and I actually have the confidence to win. Still, I still go crazy sometimes, and that doesn't help me since you always have an answer for when I do.

The problems I'll have to address now are: getting stuck in the corner and... well, I'll watch the replays to think of another. Keeping cool is probably one.
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I liked the confidence you showed in walking/dashing forward. I was looking for a whiff punish/anti air, so mixing that in with the range on her command throw makes it really scary to approach on the ground.

I know EX Typhoon does a grip but the positioning afterwards isn't that great. I'd rather get hit by that than anything else that would leave you right next to me.
 
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Sassafras1594

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Edgeward said:
Connection was fine, no worries there. Just work on your pressure plan and have the courage to commit to your reads/plan. You are very defensive for a Nec player, and while it is good you don't wake up dp it is too much to your disadvantage. You are effectively eliminating your option, I never had to worry in knockdown situation for it. And learn to punish the vega roll, it's -6 for the lk version. I did it a lot and got away scot-free.


GGs, my man
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Thanks for the info I keep forgetting how good dp is and yeah i knew it was negative but couldnt find what to use to punish it. Ill just go to training and try to figure it out thanks again.
 
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qcf x2

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Xeteh said:
Oh, I'm just talking shit to qcfx2, not that I don't actually believe him.

Honestly, if I had the cash I'd buy a stick but between not having a lot of money to spend on one and not really being sure if it will work for me, that is the real reason I'm holding off. I know they're worth it but its a big investment.
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I knew you trusted me. Now if only you would accept my coaching :-T

The other thing I'll say about your situation is that it's better to get a stick sooner than later, because at the very beginning you aren't going to be able to do anything and it's going to be frustrating for weeks if not a month or two. You're relearning how to do basic things, so it's a lot more frustrating if you're already what you'd consider to be good, because you're going to be garbage all over again until you adjust and it clicks.

bob_arctor said:
Interestingly, I can go back to a (good) pad very easily, like trying on an old pair of jeans that still fit. In fact, I would say my charging skills are still better on a pad. But yeah, it's stick fo' life for me now. Love 'em to death. Speaking of charging--the Hayabusa stick is absolutely no good for me when using Guile. I *need* the tension of the LS-40. I was missing tons of flash kick punishes on the Hayabusa. Makes me want to install a 2lb spring to see....
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Yeah, weirdly it's much easier to transition to / downgrade to a pad. It's not the same but it's not like you're going to be struggling to do a hadouken consistently.
 
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The Mango Sentinel

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GGs flux. I can't believe I got hit with EVERY SINGLE ex Peach. 100% success rate.

Oh by the way, Mika is one of the only characters that can punish Vega's LP Slash. Ex Peach of course.
 
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Xeteh

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qcf x2 said:
I knew you trusted me. Now if only you would accept my coaching :-T

The other thing I'll say about your situation is that it's better to get a stick sooner than later, because at the very beginning you aren't going to be able to do anything and it's going to be frustrating for weeks if not a month or two. You're relearning how to do basic things, so it's a lot more frustrating if you're already what you'd consider to be good, because you're going to be garbage all over again until you adjust and it clicks.
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I accept your coaching, I'm just ass... but hey, I learned to pressure Alex with normals!

The stick is mostly a cost thing. If I had the money to burn, I'd buy a stick in a heartbeat... but as much as I love SFV, I'd rather spend my spare cash on games. One day, I'll get a stick but I don't want to buy a cheap one because fuck it, its cheap. I want to get a decent one.
 
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DD-11

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Xeteh said:
I accept your coaching, I'm just ass... but hey, I learned to pressure Alex with normals!

The stick is mostly a cost thing. If I had the money to burn, I'd buy a stick in a heartbeat... but as much as I love SFV, I'd rather spend my spare cash on games. One day, I'll get a stick but I don't want to buy a cheap one because fuck it, its cheap. I want to get a decent one.
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I was in your position during sfiv. I got tired of replacing worn out pads and so I bought a stick. I sucked for a solid month, but since then my execution is way better. I'm capable of more complicated combos than I every was before. That's my experience anyway.
 
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Edgeward

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Getting a hori one would be a good option since you could play it on ps3/4 and PC and it has xinput so it would be compatible with almost all of your steam games no problem. Being able to play your old/emulated pc games on a stick is great
 
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qcf x2

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Duress said:
I was watching Maximillian's Pocket Fighter play through. We need a re-release or a sequel. ;_;
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Pocket/Gem Fighter was truly underappreciated in every way. Separately, Puzzle Fighter should have been an unlockable with SFV. Such hype in that game.
 
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Astrael

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qcf x2 said:
Pocket/Gem Fighter was truly underappreciated in every way. Separately, Puzzle Fighter should have been an unlockable with SFV. Such hype in that game.
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I loved Pocket Fighter survival mode because it had Breath of Fire characters in the background... I think it's the only time a Capcom crossover has acknowledged them outside of the series (I know SF has appeared in BoF before). I loved the music to the game too, and Dan was amazing lol.
 
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Zekes!

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Man fuck you Casuals for putting my Rookie ranked ass against a Silver Karin when I'm trying to work on my Alex. At least I got one W.

Took out my frustrations on some dude's Rashid.

Probably gonna lose to this Guile though
 
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spazchicken

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Xeteh said:
Astrael and I were beating each other down in a lobby but I made a new one and invited you

My first invite failed because the lobby was 2 player only. My bad.
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Can I join? I have a few minutes before bed. I'm using a round gate for the time being so that's my excuse if you see a lot of jumping when I should be throwing booms or flash kicks.

AdversaryOne
 
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Xeteh

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spazchicken said:
Can I join? I have a few minutes before bed. I'm using a round gate for the time being so that's my excuse if you see a lot of jumping when I should be throwing booms or flash kicks.

AdversaryOne
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First chance I get to invite, sure... the fact i can't invite while spectating is dumb.

I didn't think anyone would want to join so I didn't bother to set a password. That's my bad.

Also gonna change lounge settings to best of 1 instead of what it is now.
 
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