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Street Fighter V |OT40002| it's been a Guile, but Urien for a wait
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Pure_Phazon
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Xeteh, you can definetely combo with cammy given the opportunity. Try to add mre mix ups and setups to your play. Use her holligan as cross up and the one that she hurls herself in the air. Cammy has to continue in the agression since she doesn't have any long range tools.
Can't give you too much hints because I don't play with cammy too much =/
I'll be back in 10-15. I need to make some food. GGs though
Cammy is my favorite character but I've come to the conclusion that she's the wrong character for my playstyle, I try to be too reactive and defensive. Gonna try Guile once he's out tomorrow night. Thanks for the advice, though!
Cammy is my favorite character but I've come to the conclusion that she's the wrong character for my playstyle, I try to be too reactive and defensive. Gonna try Guile once he's out tomorrow night. Thanks for the advice, though!
lucebuce12
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Karin can also be played quite reactive as well.
Anybody interested in critiquing a few videos of my play? I know what I'm doing wrong mostly, but hearing it really laid out to me from another set of eyes would help tremendously.
This is a win, and this is a 0-2 loss.
Also this is the blog which I posted both in. I'm just going to sort of journal about what I'm trying to do to improve, but I thought I'd start with why I'm doing it, and a couple videos. PS both videos were taken today just before posting the blog. I'm not doing this to get blogspam dolla$, I just think putting this out there will help me personally improve.
This is a win, and this is a 0-2 loss.
Also this is the blog which I posted both in. I'm just going to sort of journal about what I'm trying to do to improve, but I thought I'd start with why I'm doing it, and a couple videos. PS both videos were taken today just before posting the blog. I'm not doing this to get blogspam dolla$, I just think putting this out there will help me personally improve.
CFN: shotoxabi if someone can invite me...
Had the same issue with Mika. Love playing her, but her playstyle didn't matched me too well =/
Still play as her on casuals.
Pure_Phazon
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Oof, that rollback was pretty rough.
Sorry about that. Weirdly enough, my best connection is with Whales, who is canadian and is even father away geographically -_-
sixteen-bit
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waiting for the "indefinitely" option select
Karin is probably the character I've spent the most time practicing aside from Cammy but I just don't know how to play her outside the lab. I enjoy her a ton but yeah, I'm even worse with her than I am with Cammy.
Ayy, we got some bug fixes http://www.capcom-unity.com/harrisony/blog/2016/04/27/sfv-guile-release-and-april-update-details
No mention of the Alex version select bug...
No mention of the Alex version select bug...
Hellshingu
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10 hours? I said goddamn. Hopefully they'll get these maintenance times down as things go forward.
Good thing I'm a jobber.
There goes that. I wonder if R. Mika has the worst cr.HK in the game.
No fix to being able to capture the win state of an EX or CA finish in her rope throw wall bounce kill, though. Also, no "fix" to the increased range of her CA in the corner, though that almost sounds as designed.
You're right, and they like to constantly mention how the system will be improved over time. Maybe they're intentionally not giving technical details on it so people won't game the system, but I wonder if it'll do anything at all to help the issue once it's initially implemented.
lucebuce12
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It said "during" implying the the startup frames were also affected. If it was just the active frames they would've said so.
Also same thing for Cammy's st.hk
Garrett Hawke
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Mika's slide (the cr.HK if I'm correct) was pretty shit anyway right? like I only used it for sliding under the occasional fireball.
lucebuce12
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I guess it's decent if you want to use it to get a guaranteed hard knockdown for some nadeshiko setups but otherwise, it's just a cr.hk.
so I have barely touched this game in the last few weeks due to dark souls, overwatch etc. I signed up for a tournament at EGLX on Saturday and figured I'd try and cram in some practice tomorrow night to shake off the rust. And then I see that maintenance. RIP me.
I did get a few matches tonight. I guess the main problem is now I'm dropping my crush counter punishes which I never did before. Still doing ok with Bison though. Alex can stay on the back burner.
I did get a few matches tonight. I guess the main problem is now I'm dropping my crush counter punishes which I never did before. Still doing ok with Bison though. Alex can stay on the back burner.
wait, what?
Thanks for the matches everyone. Sorry about my connection, but here was playable.
Your Ryu is good. You know how to deal damage with him. You need to improve on the when. You miss punish opportunities and this allow your opponent to get the upper hand.
For example, when you blocked my Ressenha EX (the Karin shoryuken), you had a completely free combo, but you used a normal right after blocking and that was enough for me to land and get my defense back.
I guess after you start observing and capitalizing on those moments, you are gonna grow fast.
lol looks like going full aggressive on seph only worked for 1 round
GGs guys, need to go back to studying now
Your Ryu is good. You know how to deal damage with him. You need to improve on the when. You miss punish opportunities and this allow your opponent to get the upper hand.
For example, when you blocked my Ressenha EX (the Karin shoryuken), you had a completely free combo, but you used a normal right after blocking and that was enough for me to land and get my defense back.
I guess after you start observing and capitalizing on those moments, you are gonna grow fast.
It's still good for exactly what you said and it's another option to move you forward. It's ability to low profile under some moves is handy too. Like Mika's own charged drop kick for example.
I think it'll become more useful as time goes on for various reasons. Not amazing, but it'll have its place.
Astrael
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That's how I always feel, and you did better against Mika than I did that's for sure! I never know how to handle the faster grapplers (I struggle with Laura the same way).
GGs everyone it was fun seeing such a wide variety of play styles, now if only I could stop losing all the time haha.
thank you, your karin is real good too. Feels like I can't punish that fullscreen anti-projectile even when I see it coming!
The problem I realized with her ex dp is that when she land shes crouched... I usually use HK to punish those but in that case it would whiff everytime because of that, I need to think about something else vs karin to punish
I realized it when Astrael used that ex dp like twice, and I tried to HK it twice and missed lol
Rice-Eater
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After playing and watching many Mika's I think it's a OK tool for her. Yes it's very punishable on block, but the thing I'm seeing is that most people don't want to be near her. So they walk backwards a lot when kind of up close and that's how I see Mika players landing it so often. It's not just thrown out for the hell of throwing it, I think they're reacting and sometimes just making good reads based on how they're opponent has been playing.
I can't understand why someone would find her cr.HK bad, I mean aren't pretty much every cr.HK -12 on block and super punishable?
Mika's cr.HK might be decent for Mika specifically, but it's certainly terrible when compared to a lot of other characters'. cr.HK's are definitely meant to be punishable on block, but look at not only the block advantage for that move for Mika, but also the active frames. It's like a very slow and short distance version of M. Bison's. Most characters can use their cr.HK as a poking/footsie tool, but Mika cannot do that because it moves her forward into the opponent's range at such short distances that makes it even more punishable than most other ones.
Pure_Phazon
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GGs everyone
You need tomlearn to anti air. Your opponent took full adavatage of the fact you didn't challenge any of the jump ins. You need to stop relying on cr hk as your main poking/footsies tool. The recovery makes it highly punishable on block. You either went raw cr hk or cr mk into cr hk which doesn't combo and will get you hit out of it or crush countered.
You need to apply pressure and attack once you score the knockdown and gain advantage. This isn't SF4 so being a passive defensive character is not enough especially when you can't anti air. You chipping away with fireballs is negligible to the damage output of your opponent scoring a jump in combo. And you should be ready to use your dragon punch after a fireball so you can anti air them.
Recognize the throw setups and prepare accordingly. Laura did a throw after you blocked the jumpin and you weren't able to tech despite it was the only thing she did. Block more when knocked down. If you are unsure what is coming then let Laura attack enough so that she pushes herself out and you can begin your turn again.
Rice-Eater
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It's possible to land CC st. HK, but timing is very tight. I've done it a few times, but whiffed it way too many times that I don't even try anymore. But the good thing about Ryu is that he doesn't lose out on much damage even without starting with a CC because of F+HP. A regular max damage punish with that is 292. Try to remember to use it to punish stuff like blocked supers or anything else like Karin's EX ressenha that leaves themselves crouching.
Just be careful though, the forward movement could cause you to miss certain punishes(Mainly against DP's)the same way Ryu's st. HK does. So if you're baiting it then make sure to walk back a bit.
Astrael, your last set against Whales was really good. You opened his defense a lot of times, just needed to capitalize on them more.
One thing you can use is Karin V-Trigger. If you are unsure, every time you make a hit try to use VT. If it hits, you should have enough time to combo from it. If it didn't, you have enough time to think about how to open your opponent.
Perhaps you could punish in a better connection. It's tough having reactions online.
If you are unsure how to punish, use a BnB with ryu like mp xx mp xx tatsu xx CA. I think that is a combo at least and can get crounching characters.
Thanks, I've played a fair bit of Mikas but I was still making the wrong choices between getting meatied or having wakeup DP's blocked and punished.
I was most frustrated by Whales destroying me again, we play a set like a week ago and I still couldn't muster up a single round win. Super frustrating.
Astrael
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He plays Ryu very patiently, so it doesn't leave him very open to punishes which Cammy excels at. I can understand the frustration there, I was trying everything in my bag of tricks to get him to throw out a whiffed shoryuken and couldn't ever capitalize on it when he did. :< You're the only one I didn't get to play against I think so maybe next time you're up for it we can do a set
Thanks for the advice, I originally used V-trigger more often but somewhere along the lines I forgot I have it unless I get a really solid punish. It did help me pull one win against Phazon's Nash but it was a sloppy win. I gotta tighten up my game a bit, but at least I fought more aggressively this time around than against Omni and Flux.
is this thread not your friend
LMAO
im sorry xeteh ;-;
yeah, that last set of ours was pretty good, it was pretty freaking close too, good karin. I swear just the fact that she can ex dp when she has 1 bar makes me scared to go in all the time
overall, tonight was pretty decent karin training, so i'm happy
I still need to work on anti-airing, my AA game is pretty bad :/
Too lazy to record videos haha
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