lucebuce12
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Whoever decided to give fang the zoidberg crab walk as his V-reversal is a genius.
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Street Fighter V |OTV| BUFF MY MAIN & NERF THE CHARACTER I JUST LOST TO
- Thread starter Garrett Hawke
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If you ask me the whole F.A.N.G. design is genius tbh.
lucebuce12
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*brofist*
Valkerionseven
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My ID is: Captain_Marvel
FANG is definetly the best design of the new characters... the other options are: Animal Broly, Aladin from San Francisco, and Boobs.
had a major breakthrough while trying to learn the a basic sonic boom loop in training mode. After failing like probably a million times I stopped mashing buttons, stopped pushing down so hard on the buttons, and like really fell into the rhythm and then just knocked em out like 3, 4, 5 in a row. It felt so smooth and good, like waaaaay fuckin better then normal... and then tomorrow I'm going camping for a week so might as well throw all that progress in the garbage.
had a major breakthrough while trying to learn the a basic sonic boom loop in training mode. After failing like probably a million times I stopped mashing buttons, stopped pushing down so hard on the buttons, and like really fell into the rhythm and then just knocked em out like 3, 4, 5 in a row. It felt so smooth and good, like waaaaay fuckin better then normal... and then tomorrow I'm going camping for a week so might as well throw all that progress in the garbage.
lucebuce12
Member
This advice has worked incredibly well for me in the past so I'm passing it over to you.
Whenever you're struggling with something, be it a matchup or a getting a move out or anything, just take 2 or 3 deep breaths.
Really helps calm you down, and you start to realize that the move you were having trouble with is because you weren't quite doing it right or because you were over complicating it.
Augemitbutter
Member
man i wanted to save some replays but it's an endless loading circle. ranked works sometimes but the casual tab just loads endlessly.
fix pls.
fix pls.
Garrett Hawke
Member
I'm dying at the accuracy
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";210674436]gifs[/QUOTE]
lol thanks for the gifs, when that guy said "good players punish his v-reversal" I lol'd because literally the obly time i've seen someone punish it is the chun with a cr.mk into legs
I don't even remember if anyone else punished it properly
lol thanks for the gifs, when that guy said "good players punish his v-reversal" I lol'd because literally the obly time i've seen someone punish it is the chun with a cr.mk into legs
I don't even remember if anyone else punished it properly
Infiltration basically won EVO with it.
V-Skill to block Mika's V-skill, 2 attacks and jump out of a command grab attempt.
sixteen-bit
Member
great work, Garrett!
This is a legit improvement to her design.
Thanks!
You joke but I am genuinely worried about putting it up on my YT channel. Like I'm not forcing anyone to use it, lol.
You can propose Capcom to make it official ESPN Laura costume !
Zombegoast
Member
Nash's V-Reversal isn't the best when it pushes him far enough that it can be hard to punish moves in it's recovery. It should be a miniature version of his CA and deal gray health.
Then Fuudo wasn't using R.Mika right.
Then Fuudo wasn't using R.Mika right.
Garrett Hawke
Member
only if I get a 15 page thread on the front of gaf
thanks
can't take credit tho.thank you! I'll sort out a pak (thanks Reizo for the instructions)
sixteen-bit should be able to! I can't find it in my history, I only have it in my imgur account but it was originally on deviantart.
Thank you
sixteen-bit
Member
Garrett Hawke
Member
thanks
yup, it's actually mapped to the little cut out area on her butt, so whatever colour that part is, the shirt is the same colour.that's it
and shouldn't be long!wookieofdoom
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Saving this for future use. Thanks for this
Fuudo predicted that Infiltration was going to use his V-skill to escape the corner, so he jumped back. Infiltration knew where the Nadashiko hit was going to hit him, so that allowed him to escape it.
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If you play on the same sfv Id then yes.
lucebuce12
Member
DLC isn't shareable in this game. Unless you both play from the same PSN ID, DLC isn't going to be shared.
ugh, thanks Capcpom. should've bought the PC version. I chose poorly
Shadoken
Member
"Cr.mk cancels into fireball"
Nash v reversals .... And avoids the fireball. How on earth do you expect a punish from that ? Fireballs have insane recovery.
And see the vids I posted , just because he carefully posted gifs spots where they dropped their punish doesn't mean it's unbeatable.
There are several blocked light and medium attacks in those gifs and it's never punished even by the top of the top players. How can you still say it's bad?
Fuudo even anticipated one and jumped back, still nothing.
Shadoken
Member
You have to be joking. Mika can Do a full combo punish on that v reversal. She just needs to walk back and do her slap move.
Shadoken
Member
Which one ? The first one he did get punished with cr.lk but he didn't follow up the combo. What other light normals ? Most of them were fireball cancels or slow normals.
And Fuudo was recovering from a v trigger cancel. How was he anticipating one ? He reacted to it , but couldn't do much because of his recovery. He should have actually just walked back if he wanted to punish. Or maybe he wanted to mixup with nadeshko either way it seemed really weird.
Vids showing various punishes, off even Medium normals. Something most of the cast can punish with v reversal.
You can see from the gifs that they went for the punish but dropped it.
Mika
https://youtu.be/LubGJmhTMdo
Ken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6kSQhh0MZ4
Chun
https://youtu.be/uzywKWXUiko
"God's Beard!"
Member
She can do a clap loop by jumping over a fireball, too. I'm really not seeing your point.
Shadoken
Member
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";210709569]She can do a clap loop by jumping over a fireball, too. I'm really not seeing your point.[/QUOTE]
What does a fireball have to do with it ? Can she do it to punish other characters v reversals when they do it after a blocked medium normal ? Nope.
But she can punish this v reversal when he does it off a blocked medium normal. Or even some heavy normals like HP.
What does a fireball have to do with it ? Can she do it to punish other characters v reversals when they do it after a blocked medium normal ? Nope.
But she can punish this v reversal when he does it off a blocked medium normal. Or even some heavy normals like HP.
Shadoken
Member
So If the top players in the world can't punish A fireball does that make the fireball OP or the player ?
Point is , It is punishable even on blocked medium normals unlike other v reversals.
There are already vids posted showing them punish some of the Exact same situations. But if you aren't ready for it , you aren't punishing.
Also I am not downplaying it as weak. But it isn't amazingly OP either. Has clear weaknesses and cannot be abused.
"God's Beard!"
Member
The point is that the punishability doesn't take away from the move's power. Nash's overhead is -6 on block but that doesn't stop Infiltration from using it several times a game.
It took Tokido to perfectly V-trigger to punish that thing. And it didn't even look like it was supposed to be possible.
No balance changes before Capcom Cup is over. Bugs are going to be patched, though
Shadoken
Member
Watch the vids. It is perfectly possible to punish if you are expecting it , just like any other escape move. Like even jumping out of the corner. Its actually not hard for Mika , Idk why Fuudo went for a jump in that gif. Maybe he got greedy and wanted a jump in combo.
February next year
Also, here's the ESPN top 8 for poverty bros who couldn't see it/Non-americans who got shafted
so if you're spaced right, and you are expecting it and bait someone into doing it, you can punish them?
Damn it sounds like Street Fighter to me.
Do you think it should be a completely safe, get out of corner card? Like invincible? Nash is already super strong and mobile. The V-reversal seems to fit his character and how he plays perfectly.
Man that casting over the PA system made the sound so damn muddy on the TV. You could barely hear Mike and Seth sometimes.
Damn it sounds like Street Fighter to me.
Do you think it should be a completely safe, get out of corner card? Like invincible? Nash is already super strong and mobile. The V-reversal seems to fit his character and how he plays perfectly.
Man that casting over the PA system made the sound so damn muddy on the TV. You could barely hear Mike and Seth sometimes.
Romars202129
Member
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";210711090]The point is that the punishability doesn't take away from the move's power. Nash's overhead is -6 on block but that doesn't stop Infiltration from using it several times a game.[/QUOTE]
Talking in circles. This v reversal seems to me to be a bunch of players who neglected to train against it well enough. Now that 3 nash evo is over, I'm going to hypothesize we see everybody doing extra homework on Nash, and with possible exception of infiltration, you're going to see worse showings for the character from here on out.
Talking in circles. This v reversal seems to me to be a bunch of players who neglected to train against it well enough. Now that 3 nash evo is over, I'm going to hypothesize we see everybody doing extra homework on Nash, and with possible exception of infiltration, you're going to see worse showings for the character from here on out.
Nash has been winning tournaments consistently since the first month the game was out.
People are doing homework. It isn't paying off. The one US player it did pay off for was Joe, who won the first big US event with Nash, and is magically the last US player standing. He's also the only "name" US player I can think of who's actually maining the character. I don't think these things are unrelated, people were just slow on the uptake.
Etrian Oddity
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I don't really think you can say Nash is not top tier and then say Chun is, they're kind of a pair. Chun has no tourney results and is being piloted even more frequently than Nash with just as many amazing players.
Won't argue that Infiltration is a big reason why Nash is a big deal, though. The situational awareness and the way the man baits and bluffs his opponent into moving exactly where he wants them is godlike.
EDIT: Also, doesn't Nash have a disproportionate amount of moves that are plus on block?
Won't argue that Infiltration is a big reason why Nash is a big deal, though. The situational awareness and the way the man baits and bluffs his opponent into moving exactly where he wants them is godlike.
EDIT: Also, doesn't Nash have a disproportionate amount of moves that are plus on block?
CountBlack
Member
NuckleDu tho
Shadoken
Member
Also can we get some actual examples of this V reversal being abused? I am not seeing it in those gifs. Apart from the Ken one where it looks like Eita dropped the fireball punish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzywKWXUiko
Every other gif is Nash doing a V-reversal of a high recovery move like a Fireball. or Mikas St.HK and Mikas C.HP->V trigger which also has recovery. Which is what the move is meant to escape from.
Thats like taking credit away from Infiltration , apart from him and nuckledu most majors didnt have any other Nash in top 32. While having multiple Necallis,Chuns and Mikas. People know the Nash matchup , but Infil is just a really strong player right now.
Anyway back on topic , his V-reversal of all things is far from OP. His HP Sonic boom tho , is going to see nerfs for sure.
If you are referring to normals then ,Apart from lights its only his Cr.MP and Cr.HP. Which is normal for most of the cast.
THIS... Its like he has found his perfect character. Infil just makes almost every move he has seem OP. I think even if Capcom nerfs Nash it is going to be hard to consistently take down Infiltration , unless the Game Meta changes.
He does so many punishable moves at such timing and spacing it just makes all of them seem like safe moves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzywKWXUiko
Every other gif is Nash doing a V-reversal of a high recovery move like a Fireball. or Mikas St.HK and Mikas C.HP->V trigger which also has recovery. Which is what the move is meant to escape from.
Thats like taking credit away from Infiltration , apart from him and nuckledu most majors didnt have any other Nash in top 32. While having multiple Necallis,Chuns and Mikas. People know the Nash matchup , but Infil is just a really strong player right now.
Anyway back on topic , his V-reversal of all things is far from OP. His HP Sonic boom tho , is going to see nerfs for sure.
If you are referring to normals then ,Apart from lights its only his Cr.MP and Cr.HP. Which is normal for most of the cast.
THIS... Its like he has found his perfect character. Infil just makes almost every move he has seem OP. I think even if Capcom nerfs Nash it is going to be hard to consistently take down Infiltration , unless the Game Meta changes.
He does so many punishable moves at such timing and spacing it just makes all of them seem like safe moves.
kirblar throwing all that shade.
Romars202129
Member
Correction, Infiltration has been winning tournaments consistently. And I'd say its obvious the majority of players where primarily concerned with Ryu, and concentrated their efforts on that match, which is why that character had a pretty mediocre showing at evo.
Also, saying LI Joe only got to evo because of his character is horse shit.
Shadoken
Member
This.... The man came so close to beating Yukadon , who has been consistently dominating Japanese events. That matchup is 5-5 , you cant say its the character in a mirror match.
He even el;iminated Kazunoko , the same guy that beat Yukadon in that Tokyo buttton masher event. Cant just pass it all on character advantage.