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Street Fighter V |OTVI| The More I Know, The Worse I Play
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lucebuce12
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Whhaaaat?
ShinMaruku
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Then you had the debug mode which was something special. Blood Roar is weird.
I have not seen a nerf to the hitbox. The hitstun was nerfed with the drop to 3f to prevent CH combo into c.MP which would have been dumb as fuck.
Details?
lucebuce12
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GuileBootCamp
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Ok, so, Guile's s.MP is a 6f startup now. That explains the frame trap target combo.
Damn man, that's rough.
I've got 10+ auditions to oversee on Tuesday and Wednesday (we're casting for our final major film of university) so I'm not going to be able to play Akuma till Wednesday night at the absolute latest. Feels bad man
nope, in university.... studying to become a dentist. That's why I have so many classes lol
But at least im not the only one with the struggle, everyone is in their finals stretch
Damn man, that's rough.
I've got 10+ auditions to oversee on Tuesday and Wednesday (we're casting for our final major film of university) so I'm not going to be able to play Akuma till Wednesday night at the absolute lateness. Feels bad man
exactly the same here... feels bad indeed
Just watching these twitter and youtube clips of him doing bonker combos makes me salivate
lucebuce12
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Aaah ok. Good luck with the whole dentistry thing!nope, in university.... studying to become a dentist. That's why I have so many classes lol
But at least im not the only one with the struggle, everyone is in their finals stretch
Still can't fully wrap my head around having 11 classes in one semester. Computer Science has made me weak.
Zombegoast
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Alex Cr.MP was already a good footsie button and now it's even better. How's Cammy doing?
Startup and recovery were both nerfed, not sure if the hit box change overrides that. Both MKs look worse now, which was usually his strongest option after cr mp.
Reizo Ryuu
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I had a similar amount of classes, or maybe more, but we never had any tests, just projects so it wasn't bad.
SUPARSTARX
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Some of y'all freaking out too hard. This is still primarily a test build. Final one is likely more refined than what we're playing with this week.
The final stretch is here man. Just watch the last day of NEC17, have dinner, go to sleep tonight.
Finish your Monday school/class/work off well, have a nice hearty afternoon at the gym, get your food, sleep early, wake up early Tuesday and play some new SFV season 2!
The final stretch is here man. Just watch the last day of NEC17, have dinner, go to sleep tonight.
Finish your Monday school/class/work off well, have a nice hearty afternoon at the gym, get your food, sleep early, wake up early Tuesday and play some new SFV season 2!
According to arlieth the hitbox is smaller and the hurtbox got pushed further forward. I really don't see why it would be dumb though. Bison has zero dirt. Can he get some dirt? I see zero reason to be afraid of the character. (I'm hoping I'm wrong but have a strong feeling that I'm not).
fluffydelusions
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I haven't really played since launch but recently checked it out this morning. Really out of the loop I suppose but I thought all stuff was to be purchasable with fight money such as costumes...guess that's not though cause it tells me to buy through steam.
TheSpoiler
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Did Capcom state the patch would hit the 20th?
Edit: Preminum costumes cannot be bought with FM. The rest can be.
Edit: Preminum costumes cannot be bought with FM. The rest can be.
Everything but premium costumes.
fluffydelusions
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ColonialHawk
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They never specifically said the 20th, only that Akuma and other content will be coming the 20th.
I'm pretty sure both the hitbox and the hurtbox are further forward. It's pretty inconsequential either way, you can still frame trap s.LP into c.MP into s.LK on wakeup, and none of his existing extensions (like s.LK xx LK DKP xx VTC, s.LK) fail to reach.
CH s.LK combo into c.MP would be dumb because c.MP into s.LK is now already a frame trap with c.MP being +1 oB and s.LK being 3f. The s.LP, c.MP, s.LK wakeup string already has 2 separate frame traps in it now, he doesn't need to be able to combo back into c.MP & M enders off it. With no meterless reversals and a 3f normal all of Bison's frame traps are now far harder to get away from, and his oki game has arguably improved while a lot of other characters got hit hard in this regard.
There's really only two changes I would like to see for the final patch, Psycho Axe startup nerf reverted (this IMO is the only change in the beta that I find offensive) and c.HP lowered from 10f to at least 8f.
TheSpoiler
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Yeah that's what I remembered. I wouldn't get those expectations too high.
It's too late!!!
lucebuce12
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No way.
Objectively speaking and putting (or trying to at least) the nerdboy rage aside. They're just touching shit that doesn't need touching. No reason why they had to nerf stand strong, devils reverse, skull diver (fucking skull diver? really??) psycho axe, shadow axe too depending on your pov. Meanwhile low forward still doesn't combo into ex inferno like it did (and should) during the last beta. Headstomp/ devils reverse hitboxes are still pathetic. None of his specials got better. Couldn't even make ex scissors airborne so he doesn't get thrown out of it.
The only thing that changed is that his super linear pressure is now slightly tighter. Other characters are getting some good stuff but the dev team is telling bison players 'don't worry the system changes will buff your character'. No. Actual Buffs will buff my character. If they gave him an 8f cr hp like you suggested I think that alone could make him considerably better. But a 3f stand short doesn't warrant how much they've taken away from him (yet again). I'm really hoping that the actual patch is different from the leaked one. I just don't see him being competitive as is.
ViewtifulJC
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Reizo Ryuu
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We should just never have updates and be like marvel 2 forever.
They'll get over it. No point in judging a patch before we 1. Know it's final 2. Spend a significant amount of time with the new changes.
hey_it's_that_dog
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Are Ken mains upset? I can't find a comprehensive list of Ken changes anywhere and nobody is talking about him here.
I saw some stuff on BananaKen's Twitter and a couple of notes on Reddit and that's it.
lol damn
TheSpoiler
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David wants more options but in my opinion that's exactly what's happening here. Like characters need to lose some things to gain some things. FM whining about chun li nerf is hilarious because it's just what some pro players do when their main gets hit with the bat, but it's not like she won't be strong. Her ground game is what is important now and that's fine.
LincolnTunnel
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I don't think he was saying he wants all of the changes reverted. He specifically said he hopes all of the nerfs get reverted. I think there's a big difference there. I don't really agree with him though.
He thinks they went overboard on chun li changes. Hes a good dude
It's stupid thinking and he should know better. They're not "nerfing" just to nerf- they're systematically targeting a lot of bs-y unfun stuff like AA lights and instant air legs.
LincolnTunnel
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I don't think the Season 2 patch and Akuma are separate, unconnected things. We've seen no evidence of any build that includes Akuma, but has none of the changes that have been seen between PSX and the leaked beta. The PSX build and the build from WSO this week both seem to indicate that the Akuma patch and the Season 2 patch are the same thing.
They talked about it on Ultrachen.
A lot of the changes run counter to each other. There's no DPs anymore... yet the game still has the CC system for reversals. The no DP system kinda undermines the CC punish against DP system.
They want the game to be honest and reward more for blocking but white health regens so slow, you are punished more for blocking.
Most people like the change to throws though.
Iall is super fun tho
Would not be surprised if the Akuma changes are going to be a beta version they adjust in a month, much like they did w/ USF4 Arcade v Console.
GuileBootCamp
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Was able to block Guile's jab and LK Flash Kick afterwards, but not Ryu's jab.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hDaJKuRANA
New Target combo with V skill for Nash. Interesting to note that they have added some new cancellable properties to moves but havent added what it can be cancelled too. Cant wait to see what the final version is going to add.
New Target combo with V skill for Nash. Interesting to note that they have added some new cancellable properties to moves but havent added what it can be cancelled too. Cant wait to see what the final version is going to add.
Probably because many of them don't want to start relearning everything from scratch again.
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