Yea. Fuk I hope its actually there and they just forgot to mention it. St.HK juggle was hype :]
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Street Fighter V |OTVI| The More I Know, The Worse I Play
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Yea. Fuk I hope its actually there and they just forgot to mention it. St.HK juggle was hype :]
ViewtifulJC
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did Ryu get a single buff, shit
It might be, its just that Birdie looks near-identical to what leaked.
It was clear a few characters had design philosophies and tools that were not compatible with newer characters, and there was a balance issue involved, but they've changed virtually every move in the game in some way.
I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I think it's likely worse for balance than, say, minor adjustments to weak/strong moves.
Yea its mostly the same , 99% identical.
ViewtifulJC
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Damn near every Karin change is either "reduced damage", "increased start-up/recovery" or "shrunk hitbox"
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Rice-Eater
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I think they're referring to st. HP > Super. Ryu's st. HP can't be canceled into any of his specials, only his V Trigger and Super. So I think they're trying to say that he can only do st. HP > Super in V Trigger. Their is no way to be sure though.
Just looking through Ryu changes right now. It's a bit confusing to read because it seems the information is being spread all over the place. You read about his st. HK early in the notes. Then it goes on to something else only to bring up his st. HK again. Is it this way with everybody else?
Same with Ryu, so many minor nerfs lol.
Nemesis121
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Zangief already one of the good V-trigger, it got buffed..
Or training mode settings saved. Gotta wait for season 3.
Holee sheeet. Lol capcom can't communicate eh Necalli getting minor nerfs all around, apart form command throw I guess? and stomp might be fireball resistant now?
Juri seems like she got total buffs. Unless I'm reading it wrong she might actually be able to pressure after throw now.
GGs. I always need more Rashid experience. Your playstyle is really annoying, so that's something that helps me with punishes and general patience. You should make your patterns less predictable, though. It's easy to predict what you'll do next, and I could have really capitalized on that if I wasn't focusing more on defense.
ColonialHawk
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V Skill Overhaul:
 V-gauge will increase by 30 after motion
Yo Im all warmed up!
 V-gauge will increase by 30 after motion
Yo Im all warmed up!
spazchicken
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I'm still reading but so far it seems like all they did with him is make his hit boxes smaller and his hurt boxes larger and gave everything more push back while giving him less mobility and more drawn out frames of animation. Fun times are in our future.
TheSpoiler
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OH FUCK
My number 1 request now. I wonder how they can look at the game and not realize how basic this is. KoF XIII also had this problem and it annoyed me greatly.
Ggs man i never hated birdie banana and can throwing as much as i did today lol, i guess it's the first time i see anyone using them efficiently.
And ya i try to do less predictable patterns but that's where i fail after few sets people can predict everything i do i guess this the wall which i started hitting recently.
Holy Order Sol
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Valle is acting so fucking stupid on Twitter right now. Dude can get dumb af when trying to OG just to OG.
My thoughts on Karin changes:
Most of the nerfs are pretty meaningless. St.MK nerf hurts a bit, but the move is still going to be good. Need to test the V-trigger CA confirm because they added some frames in there to mess that up.
EX Ressenha invincibility increased to 7 frames is potentially really important. That move sucks ass a reversal and loses clean to shit like instant air-gale and EX wall dive.
Orochi pushback being reduced is actually a buff as long as it's still -2. If I'm using it in neutral, it's because I want to be right next to your bitch ass (fuck you Vega).
The rekka overhead is safe on block now. That's interesting. Her Rekka follow-ups are pretty much unilaterally better, actually.
Most of the nerfs are pretty meaningless. St.MK nerf hurts a bit, but the move is still going to be good. Need to test the V-trigger CA confirm because they added some frames in there to mess that up.
EX Ressenha invincibility increased to 7 frames is potentially really important. That move sucks ass a reversal and loses clean to shit like instant air-gale and EX wall dive.
Orochi pushback being reduced is actually a buff as long as it's still -2. If I'm using it in neutral, it's because I want to be right next to your bitch ass (fuck you Vega).
The rekka overhead is safe on block now. That's interesting. Her Rekka follow-ups are pretty much unilaterally better, actually.
what is so bad about what he's posted today
ColonialHawk
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Balrog is no longer Boxer. He is now juggler.
L Screw Smash:
 Command has been changed to ↓(charged) ↑+LK to →↓↘+LK
 Hitbox startup has been changed 13F to 10F
o Entire motion has been decreased by 3F
 Airborne time for opponent when hit in-air has been increased
Medium version's frames have also been decreased.
Edit: Same for Urien
L Chariot Tackle (Standard/V-Skill):
 Increased juggle potential when used in-airborne combo
L Screw Smash:
 Command has been changed to ↓(charged) ↑+LK to →↓↘+LK
 Hitbox startup has been changed 13F to 10F
o Entire motion has been decreased by 3F
 Airborne time for opponent when hit in-air has been increased
Medium version's frames have also been decreased.
Edit: Same for Urien
L Chariot Tackle (Standard/V-Skill):
 Increased juggle potential when used in-airborne combo
Dash punching after jump ins. 👌🏽
Hellshingu
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92 fucking pages? Goddamn. See y'all tomorrow.
ColonialHawk
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Chris G will be happy:
Rolling Sobat:
 Decreased the size of the hurtbox by the feet between 7F and 10F of the motion
Edit: Ken
V-Skill - Quick Step:
 Extended how long opponent is frozen in the air on-hit
 Expanded height of collision box during attack animation
Does this mean he can juggle on hit?
Sorry for the sporadic posting im just pouring over these things and posting stuff that catches my eye.
Rolling Sobat:
 Decreased the size of the hurtbox by the feet between 7F and 10F of the motion
Edit: Ken
V-Skill - Quick Step:
 Extended how long opponent is frozen in the air on-hit
 Expanded height of collision box during attack animation
Does this mean he can juggle on hit?
Sorry for the sporadic posting im just pouring over these things and posting stuff that catches my eye.
CountBlack
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laura nerfs 
DoDonGouki
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good night Nash
wtf ??
wtf ??
TheSpoiler
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Nash ain't done. Relax.
Ryu getting his j.mp as an overhead if they hit you in a certain way wuuuttt
Ryu getting his j.mp as an overhead if they hit you in a certain way wuuuttt
spazchicken
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ColonialHawk
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Ken's Tatsu seem much more manageable. Hitbox shrinkage all around
Edit: Bison
V-Skill - Psycho Reflect:
 Changed so that can only fire projectile when performing V-Skill a second time after successfully
countering an opponent's attack without following up with another attack
 Expanded counter box in upward direction
 Increased juggle potential on-hit with secondary attack
V-trigger has increased duration but more time is taken when special moves used
Edit: Bison
V-Skill - Psycho Reflect:
 Changed so that can only fire projectile when performing V-Skill a second time after successfully
countering an opponent's attack without following up with another attack
 Expanded counter box in upward direction
 Increased juggle potential on-hit with secondary attack
V-trigger has increased duration but more time is taken when special moves used
That sounds like a bug fix, why would any jumping attack have a mid property?
Edit - Actually wait, doesn't SF use ass-backwards terms for this? So it's actually no longer going to hit overhead on the second hit? I'm not sure what the point of that even is if you would have to block the first hit high anyway...
Shadow_Lord
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Bit late there buddy.
Not the notes the actual update lol
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