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Street Fighter V |OTVIII| New Delayed Generation - Controversial Inputs
- Thread starter Reizo Ryuu
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hugo is the best
bring him back
Ucchedavāda;241973784 said:
Evil is his true nature.
Akuma was trying to save us.
Best in class.
Honestly think this is one of the best looking fighters out there. Especially with the newer stages.
Etrian Oddity
Member
That's literally a rushed out DLC move, lol.
SFV's animation, art design and sound design don't get near as much love as it should. I think this OST is right up there in elite SF status.
CountBlack
Member
Yea the OST in this game is great. I really like how varied the themes are. From Brazil's theme stage to Rashid's theme to Kolin's theme to Ed's theme. Even the themes that are misses for me I still appreciate for the attempt tbh (Juri's theme)
Best in class for sure, and just flat out some of the best animation among the entire industry.
*Capcom announces record profits in FY 2017!*
Sound design is really fantastic. It always feels so good when you land a crush counter.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
I don't play any other fighters so I don't want to talk shit about them but I was watching The Recipe where they played Injustice 2 and it was literally disgusting to me how that game moves. Killer Instinct looks almost as bad, not to mention the hideous overall aesthetic. I even think Tekken 7 looks pretty stupid in motion but that's probably more subjective. I'm sure it looks and feels right to longtime Tekken players.
SF5 is such an excellent looking game in most ways (with a few major missteps) that it surprises me that people aren't more drawn to it.
lucebuce12
Member
Ucchedavāda;241972053 said:
Current fighting games ranked by aesthetics according to science:
1. Dragonball FighterZ
2. GGXrd: Rev 2
3. SFV
4. Tekken 7
5. Ultra Street Fighter II (CPS2 mode)
6. ARMS
7. Injustice 2
8. KOF XIV
9. Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite
10. Killer Instinct
99. Ultra Street Fighter II (HDR mode)
Yeah, T7 looks silly in motion because all of the movement animation is cancelled into something else and gives it a super janky look. Everybody seems really happy with how that game looks, but with all the customization and shit added, I think it looks awful.
Pretty much agree with KI and IJ2, although I am enjoying actually playing IJ2 because everything loads snappy and the netcode is amazing.
T7, tho?
Like...seriously:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-SFfhU8MYI
What is this? Not only does it look horrible, but it makes reading moves nearly impossible. I hate this shit.
I think T7 gets way too much praise as a package. Gameplay is super legit, but a lot of the things surrounding it are really annoying.
Zombegoast
Member
And? The game has been out on arcades for two years and releasing on consoles and PC with 36 characters.
And Bamco isn't promising when the content is coming meanwhile Capcom failed in delivering in the road map.
The animation in Tekken has never looked great imo. Virtua Fighter 5 is 11 years old and I think it animates more smoothly than Tekken 7.
Cool. Glad you're happy to be paying for additional modes that should have been at launch on a two years after the fact console port. Go ahead and rejoice knowing jack shit about what you've bought, when it's going to come out, and what it will contain.
You can go ahead and lambaste Capcom all you want, but it's a bit hypocritical to be celebrating knowing nothing about how you've spent your money in another game.
I Don't even understand why you still post here or even play the game when you despise it, , but clearly you can't stop making bad decisions.
He has plenty of time to post here waiting on matches to load in T7.
ShinMaruku
Member
Mika Minaj
UcchedavÄda
Member
Didn't Harada tweet about them reducing the load times, long before launch? Blows my mind how they are still so bad.
lucebuce12
Member
lucebuce12
Member
They wouldn't be so bad if you didn't have to sit through a loading screen everytime you start a match in a lobby. Even if it's the same 2 players.
The solution is to play kof
Even the rematch has a weird loading screen for some reason. Same stage, same characters but you get one inbetween. And there's only one rematch when it should be bo3. They could really bring the play-to-wait ratio up with a few simple changes to that part.
Unless you do that load mod, which most people don't, load times from accepting a match to match starting are at least 70 seconds.
In lobbies, that's 70 seconds of waiting after every single match.
It's a bit worse on consoles.
Oh for sure. I'm still loving this new, yet to be released, CPT stage music.
https://youtu.be/TtZHMagPPM8
It's such a shame Capcom's management fucked up the game's release.
Wait, on PC? I certainly don't load for 70 seconds when I play with my friends. It's more like 15 seconds.
https://youtu.be/fpxsU7S4pvs?t=231
Certainly not my experience.
Notice how we're playing more rounds so we don't have to wait. lol
Speaking of lore, why are Ken's teeth yellow!? He's rich! That fool should have pearly whites! Teeth whitening every year!
Yeah and they still released it barebones compared to T6/TT2. There was no official "roadmap" for SFV this year either. Speaking of which, I thought you stopped playing and don't care anyway?
The fact that they reuse animations from the 90's speaks volumes.
Haven't boot up the game in a bit but I swear it was around that. Me and the guy I usually play with both have SSDs though, so I'm not sure if it helps when both players have one.
First character I "learned" was Asuka, but I was trying to get into King before I took a break from the game.
edit: and yeah, I mean just the load. Not the character select process and all that.
Stock PS4 loading is pretty bad from what I've seen. My Pro - with a 7200 RPM HDD installed - definitely loads faster. I have Boost mode enabled too, which may or may not be helping. When I get matched up with a PC player the transition from VS screen to the match is super fast; I think about 4 seconds.
TheSpoiler
Member
Karin needs braces!
Turbanator
Member
Are you actually suggesting that T7's SP is a good value?
Now i know for a fact that the complaining is a Capcom-only thing. T7 had many of SFV's problems yet nobody complained or just said "at least it's not SHIT fighter five LOL".
I remember when people starting blaming Capcom for making fighter costume DLC a thing, but now they're accepting PAID GAME MODES with open arms.
Dental plan!
TheSpoiler
Member
I saw someone on Twitter say they are tired of SFV's loading times and will just go back to Tekken 7.
Like.
lol.
Like.
lol.
Turbanator
Member
The characters in Guilty Gear are boring. I'm gonna go play Virtua Fighter.
Imagine if Capcom said Arcade mode was going to be part of the third season pass. lmao
TheSpoiler
Member
Hey now.
Goh is pretty cool.
Goh is pretty cool.
Just a thought that occurred to me, what if the input delay is also a UE4 issue for PS4 like what's being theorized for the loading times? I believe others mentioned how V-Sync added input delay on the PS4 versions of games, but Tekken 7 & MvCI all had comperable input delay to SFV (& the two did better on Xbox One, where V-Sync was turned off).
You're a bit LTTP on this one lol, it's pretty clearly an issue w/ that engine/platform combo.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
The problem with tekken's animation is moreso how there's a bunch of legacy stuff mixed in with newer stuff.
It's extremely apparent when you see stuff like the mishima no-spine-spinning kicks while completely new characters like kazumi animate beautifully.
It's extremely apparent when you see stuff like the mishima no-spine-spinning kicks while completely new characters like kazumi animate beautifully.
In retrospect, maybe Capcom should have used the RE Engine (or MT Framework if the RE Engine wasn't ready at the time) for their fighting games.
Yeah and it sucks, because almost every fighting game uses it and PS4 is the dominant platform. I really hope people at Epic or whatever are working on improving this or atleast assist these developers on bringing it down.
DBFZ is the ultimate litmus test. That's UE4. If that has input lag on PS4 closer to SFV (5.3 frames according to Noodalls, 6 frames according to DisplayLag) than Xrd (3.5 frames Noodalls, 4.2 frames DisplayLag) it's definitely UE4.
And the best part is that we may not have to wait until next year to find out.
But yeah, hopefully Epic steps in to help out if this is indeed a UE4 problem.
Shadoken
Member
Isnt DBZ using same engine as Xrd?
Edit : Nvm , Xrd is using UE3 and DBZ is gonna change to UE4.
Xrd is UE3, DBZ UE4.