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[Hale-XF11]

Holy shit, if my school had done this to me as a kid, I'd be dead too. WTF! That school should be held liable.

 

[ChainedMaster]

the amount of restrictions we are putting on children for things is insane

he is 12...good lord..this country man...

You live in Canada?

 

[Rockandrollclown]

wtf
Are they insane? Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?

Thats the beauty of zero tolerance. No thought goes into anything. Drugs= banned. period. When I was in high school you couldn't have aspirin on your person, any drug of any kind had to be checked in with the school nurse, to be administered by her only.

 

[Joey Fox]

Are you fucking kidding me?

No, I had asthma and always had access to my inhaler as a kid. If the government took it away and I died, it would have been because of natural causes. I agree society has a problem here, but ultimately parents are responsible for the safety of their children.

 

[Watevaman]

They've been doing this for years. They wouldn't let any kids have medical stuff when I was in elementary school in the 90s.

It's stupid as hell that they locked it in the principal's office, though. Too many hoops to jump through for that.

 

[John Kowalski]

That's ridiculous. If you don't like government policy, try to get it changed and pull your kid out of school. Don't sue after the fact or expect someone doing their job to go down for murder.

This is just natural selection at work. I feel horrible for the dead kid, and not anyone else.

Defeatist and Darwinian. That's a double mate.

 

[SteveWinwood]

No, I had asthma and always had access to my inhaler as a kid. If the government took it away and I died, it would have been because of natural causes. I agree society has a problem here, but ultimately parents are responsible for the safety of their children.

so still not natural selection

 

[Kazuma Kiryu]

That's ridiculous. If you don't like government policy, try to get it changed and pull your kid out of school. Don't sue after the fact or expect someone doing their job to go down for murder.

This is just natural selection at work. I feel horrible for the dead kid, and not anyone else.

If natural selection works, why are we reading a post like this?

 

[Tenrius]

If the kid died from this, the puffer wouldn't have been enough. An ambulance should have been called immediately.

That's what I'm wondering about. Is it actually true?

 

[Valnen]

No, I had asthma and always had access to my inhaler as a kid. If the government took it away and I died, it would have been because of natural causes. I agree society has a problem here, but ultimately parents are responsible for the safety of their children.

That would not have happened had stupid people not taken away the inhaler. Meaning those stupid people are directly responsible for the death.

I can't believe you're fucking using a natural selection argument here. You realize this makes you sound inhuman?

 

[rokkerkory]

OMG at a school? I can't even fathom, WTH?

Please fire and lock the principle away

 

[GQman2121]

No, I had asthma and always had access to my inhaler as a kid. If the government took it away and I died, it would have been because of natural causes. I agree society has a problem here, but ultimately parents are responsible for the safety of their children.

I agree. All kids with asthma should be homeschooled. :/

 

[Tenrius]

Thats the beauty of zero tolerance. No thought goes into anything. Drugs= banned. period. When I was in high school you couldn't have aspirin on your person, any drug of any kind had to be checked in with the school nurse, to be administered by her only.

"You can't even call this shit a war. Wars end."

 

[Ferrio]

War on drugs claims another victim.

 

[OverBlood 3]

No, I had asthma and always had access to my inhaler as a kid. If the government took it away and I died, it would have been because of natural causes. I agree society has a problem here, but ultimately parents are responsible for the safety of their children.

But you never went to school so this couldn't have happened to you. At least it seems like you didn't.

 

[ThreePiMatt]

Anyone calling this murder is as dumb as the guy calling it "natural selection."

 

[Apoc29]

I would like to know the thought process of those who made the policy.

A: High probability an innocent child may die.
B: Low probability some stupid kid may get high.

Hmmm....I choose death!

 

[Valnen]

Anyone calling this murder is as dumb as the guy calling it "natural selection."

They're directly responsible for someone's death as a result of choices they've made. How is that not murder?

 

[LaserBuddha]

Wow. Your point is decent, but wtf is with this Natural selection shift. Really? Wtf?

His point is fucking garbage even without that bizarre last part. Telling people to pull their kids out of school to deal with problematic policies is stupid advice. Telling them they shouldn't sue or don't have the moral right to sue the entity actively responsible for his death is triple stupid.

Just a stupid, stupid post.

 

[The Omega Man]

No, I had asthma and always had access to my inhaler as a kid. If the government took it away and I died, it would have been because of natural causes. I agree society has a problem here, but ultimately parents are responsible for the safety of their children.

What the fuck are you talking about?

 

[Funky Papa]

Insanity. Were these rules conceived by someone who had no idea what asthma was? Every time a student needs to use their inhaler they need to walk to the principle's office and have them retrieve it from a lockbox? Yeah, that's a great system to have if someone's having an attack.

There's not a lot more to say, really.

This case is pretty damn fucking baffling unless we are missing some critical information.

 

[imadinosaur]

That's ridiculous. If you don't like government policy, try to get it changed and pull your kid out of school. Don't sue after the fact or expect someone doing their job to go down for murder.

This is just natural selection at work. I feel horrible for the dead kid, and not anyone else.

Natural selection? Please tell me you're joking.

 

[SteveWinwood]

They're directly responsible for someone's death as a result of choices they've made. How is that not murder?

did they intentionally do it to harm him? no? not murder

its called manslaughter

 

[Malvingt2]

I don't get The Natural selection angle.

 

[Mesoian]

That's ridiculous. If you don't like government policy, try to get it changed and pull your kid out of school. Don't sue after the fact or expect someone doing their job to go down for murder.

This is just natural selection at work. I feel horrible for the dead kid, and not anyone else.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW.

 

[Off-Kilter]

That's ridiculous. If you don't like government policy, try to get it changed and pull your kid out of school. Don't sue after the fact or expect someone doing their job to go down for murder.

This is just natural selection at work. I feel horrible for the dead kid, and not anyone else.

Do you even know what natural selection is?

 

[Valnen]

did they intentionally do it to harm him? no?

Absolutely. By withholding his inhaler they intentionally harmed him.

 

[Damaniel]

No, I had asthma and always had access to my inhaler as a kid. If the government took it away and I died, it would have been because of natural causes. I agree society has a problem here, but ultimately parents are responsible for the safety of their children.

Wow, just keep on digging that hole. Your original comment was bad enough (and frankly, borderline banworthy), but now you have to try to keep defending it. Just stop.

 

[FStop7]

No, I had asthma and always had access to my inhaler as a kid. If the government took it away and I died, it would have been because of natural causes. I agree society has a problem here, but ultimately parents are responsible for the safety of their children.

OK so you're just a lunatic, then. Goodbye.

 

[Sylvrfonic]

Wow, what a backwards way to run a medicine policy. I directed an afterschool program at an elementary school. Kids that needed emergency intervention medicine had to have it with them (inhalers, EpiPen, ect). I'd check to make sure they had it at attendance and the parents would be fined if they didn't.

 

[Funky Papa]

God damn. There are some choice posts in this thread for GAF's garbage wall.

 

[A6M3]

Unreal. Locked in the fucking principal's office? What is the good in that? Should have been on him a all times.

seriously the principals office what a idiot, what a waste of a life kid died for something so stupid and preventable... school is 100% responsible

 

[ShinNL]

"Had" asthma? Not anymore? I'm not an expert on this, but I didn't know asthma could be cured.

 

[Fury Sense]

That's ridiculous. If you don't like government policy, try to get it changed and pull your kid out of school. Don't sue after the fact or expect someone doing their job to go down for murder.

This is just natural selection at work. I feel horrible for the dead kid, and not anyone else.

You need to be quoted more. Sure, murder is the wrong charge, but your assumptions that it's so simple to change policy, schools, or move are so naive they're asinine.

 

[Grimm Fandango]

That's what I'm wondering about. Is it actually true?

Yeah there is other stuff to do like give steroids, supplemental oxygen, etc. A puffer wouldn't have prevented his status deterioration either.

"Had" asthma? Not anymore? I'm not an expert on this, but I didn't know asthma could be cured.

Some people can "outgrow" it.

 

[CSX]

This was standard procedure in all my schools.

I had asthma and it sucked since I had to run my ass to the nurse's office just to get my inhaler which ended up cutting into attendance and time spent in PE. Eventually, i decided to not bother with the inhaler.

Thankfully, my asthma isnt too serious. Poor fellow

btw this rule is cuz of obvious fear of students overdosing/ hiding drugs in them as medicine. School nurses' 2nd job is to basically check and organize all the medication.

 

[jimi_dini]

Thats the beauty of zero tolerance. No thought goes into anything. Drugs= banned. period. When I was in high school you couldn't have aspirin on your person, any drug of any kind had to be checked in with the school nurse, to be administered by her only.

Yeah, but an inhaler isn't there for fun. It's not aspirin. I mean really wtf were they thinking. Strike that, they weren't thinking at all. Call it murder. Put the one responsible in prison. And go up the whole chain.

How does this even work out? A child has asthma, does sports, needs inhaler, now what? Does the child run back to the nurse? I mean really. That's crazy on so many levels. I can't believe that this is the actual first child, who died because of this brain-dead plan.

I had asthma and it sucked since I had to run my ass to the nurse's office just to get my inhaler

wat

I can't. I seriously can't.

 

[Joey Fox]

Kids under 18 are required by law to attend school. Homeschooling and private school enrollment aren't an option for many due to costs, and simply transferring a student to another public school isn't always allowed due to districting. So it may not be as simple as you think to pull your kid out of school.

This is a good point, and I would feel sympathy for the family in this case. I came off really callous, as the kid probably wouldn't have died if he'd had the inhaler. That is tragic, and tragedy shouldn't be necessary to create reasonable policies.

 

[Sacrimoni]

Pretty clear cut case of the school causing his death

Bureaucratic idiots

 

[slit]

No, I had asthma and always had access to my inhaler as a kid. If the government took it away and I died, it would have been because of natural causes. I agree society has a problem here, but ultimately parents are responsible for the safety of their children.

Wow, that's some convoluted logic there. :lol

 

[SteveWinwood]

Absolutely. By withholding his inhaler they intentionally harmed him.

yes they harmed him it was not intentional

no they did not laugh manically while taking it away wishing him death

 

[Wilsongt]

As a person who suffered from asthma, who had to go through this same bullshit (except my inhaler was in the nurse's office), fuck this policy.

 

[Solid Samus]

fucking school administrators man

Oh shit paperwork and strict guidelines! What the fuck is empathy and common sense I don't know, follow rule is only phrase in brain

God damn. There are some choice posts in this thread for GAF's garbage wall.

oh yeah.

 

[JDSN]

No, I had asthma and always had access to my inhaler as a kid. If the government took it away and I died, it would have been because of natural causes. I agree society has a problem here, but ultimately parents are responsible for the safety of their children.

Oh you are just ignorant then, cool, go back to school but make sure you hide that inhaler real good.

 

[Aylinato]

That's ridiculous. If you don't like government policy, try to get it changed and pull your kid out of school. Don't sue after the fact or expect someone doing their job to go down for murder.

This is just natural selection at work. I feel horrible for the dead kid, and not anyone else.

You should feel bad for your shit opinion and thinking that a kid should be dead because of "natural selection."

The family should also sue the shit out of the piece of shit school and the principle should go to jail for allowing a child to die.

 

[Valnen]

no they did not laugh manically while taking it away wishing him death

They don't need to for it to be intentional. They intentionally harmed him as a result of choices they made.

 

[kurbaan]

I find this weird and hard to believe. Something is very wrong with that school, I can remember kids in my classes having inhalers.

 

[Jokab]

They're directly responsible for someone's death as a result of choices they've made. How is that not murder?

did they intentionally do it to harm him? no? not murder

its called manslaughter

No this is still involuntary manslaughter. Voluntary manslaughter still requires intent.

 

[zma1013]

I wonder where they keep the peanut allergy shots? In a safety deposit box at the bank?

 

[The Omega Man]

"Had" asthma? Not anymore? I'm not an expert on this, but I didn't know asthma could be cured.

I had asthma as a kid, the Doctor told me that some cases of Asthma are gone forever after the kid develops, and that happened to me, never got it again after I turned 13 or 14.