That's pretty sad.
I don't care what people do with their bodies, but to get pissed at others for making better choices is just strange to say the least.
Study Debunks Notion of "Healthy Obesity"
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I don't care what people do with their bodies, but to get pissed at others for making better choices is just strange to say the least.
These goddamn fat people man. Have they no shame? Not only do they literally offend my eyes with their extruding flaps of fat, they then have the gall required to fucking act like it's fine that they're fat. Humanity would be better off if we rounded up the fatties and put them in fattie concentration camps. We'd need better gas chambers though, because, obviously, we wouldn't be able to rely on starvation as a means of fattie disposal. The burden they place on healthcare worlwide is so beyond belief that we may as well stop giving healthcare to them. Or we should at the very least require larger sums of money in order to provide health insurance for them. It's even worse lately, these hambeats have the nerve to try and develop some self esteem instead of wallowing in self loathing. I did not put in all of this work into fatshaming them for them to feel happy. Meghan Trainor is a blight upon this world and that bass is disgusting and she shouldn't feel happy with herself or inspire other people to feel happy with themselves. It's not my fault they chose to eat pizza and gorge on soda, it's theirs, they deserve all of this shit. They're more disgusting than smokers imo because atleast tabacco is sort of addictive. Now they blame us for them not having any personal responsability... I'm sorry you couldn't lay off the Taco Bell but that's not my fault, or anyone elses fault.
It's your own fault fattymcgoogoo. It's not like school cafetarias are serving pizza and french fries and are sponsored by soft drink companies. It's not like over 25% of all advertising is for food stuffs. It's not like we've specifically engineered food to be more unhealthy in order for it to be more addictive. It's not like we specifically produce low fat food that's loaded with more sugar than anyone should eat in a day. It's not like we purposefully obfuscate nutrition information by providing a million contradictory studies that academia have a hard time figuring out the truth of. It's not like we advertise our unhealthiest shit to the most defenseless of population groups namely kids. Tony the tiger and Ronald Mcdonald are harmless figures of joy. It's not like we pack in toys with unhealthy, addictive food to make sure we hook kids early. It's not like we've made it easier and quite often cheaper to consume unhealthy things than it is to consume the healthy equivalent. It's not like we're specifically targetting low income communities with our brand of bullshit foods. It's not like we don't advise portion control, you can get supersized everything, because market testing has shown us that's an ideal portion for anyone to eat.
It's your own fault fattymcgoogoo. It's not like school cafetarias are serving pizza and french fries and are sponsored by soft drink companies. It's not like over 25% of all advertising is for food stuffs. It's not like we've specifically engineered food to be more unhealthy in order for it to be more addictive. It's not like we specifically produce low fat food that's loaded with more sugar than anyone should eat in a day. It's not like we purposefully obfuscate nutrition information by providing a million contradictory studies that academia have a hard time figuring out the truth of. It's not like we advertise our unhealthiest shit to the most defenseless of population groups namely kids. Tony the tiger and Ronald Mcdonald are harmless figures of joy. It's not like we pack in toys with unhealthy, addictive food to make sure we hook kids early. It's not like we've made it easier and quite often cheaper to consume unhealthy things than it is to consume the healthy equivalent. It's not like we're specifically targetting low income communities with our brand of bullshit foods. It's not like we don't advise portion control, you can get supersized everything, because market testing has shown us that's an ideal portion for anyone to eat.
This post is sarcastic, please don't ban me because I don't mean any of it. I'm just trying to fit into the current fatshaming culture. I made this post because I'm fat, I have been nearly all of my life, I've had unsuccesful bariatric surgery when I was 15 that nearly resulted in me dying of starvation (I was skinny for like a year though!), I still felt fat though, body dysmorphic disorder due to years of fat shaming ahoy! I'm currently a recluse shut-in with no more hopes or dreams left, I'm probably like an inch or a few more insults away from suicide. I've been trying to gather the self esteem to lose the weight, but it's kind of hard to do so when all you feel is self loathing. I probably should just commit suicide, I'd be doing the world a favour ridding it of my disgusting body, but the funeral arrangements would probably be a pain. I know y'all hate me for being fat but I hate myself even more for being fat, it's a pretty sweet mind space to be in, totally healthy.
theSlacker
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Welcome to the world we live in.
air jordans for dogs
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This tumblr is a constant source of hilarity, the person running this blog is so incredibly delusional.
ElectricKaibutsu
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You might want to think about talking to fitness GAF. They're very welcoming and give good advice on how to start losing weight. It doesn't have to be a big change all at once. It's not pizza three meals a day then suddenly nothing but carrots. You can change tiny things at first. Working on smaller portion sizes is a good one. Order the small instead of the large. Don't buy snacks, or if you do, buy smaller sizes.
You can take it one step at a time. You'll find a lot of support here.
theSlacker
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Edit: Wrong thread.
SquiddyCracker
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Indeed, food as a pleasure is the cause of much of the suffering in the world.
A spartan diet and a spartan mindset is the way of the future.
About the first part; yup, the world is fucked up. It's bizarre how we're brainwashed to like lousy food. No, how we're WIRED to like lousy food, and the food industry exploits that to it's fullest.
About the second part; you say you lack the self esteem to lose the weight. What if you were to lose the weight, to build self esteem? Show yourself that you can actually do it. Start with something small, take pride in the small part, and expand upon it, bit by bit, and thus expanding your pride, your self esteem, alongside it. That is, if you want to, of course
(if yes, I'd love to help, shoot me a PM)Yeah, it's quite disgusting to make cheap crap "food", that's specifically made for low-income families and then pointing at them after they got fat and call them "fatty".
I'm pretty sure the CEO of McDonalds doesn't eat McDonalds crappy "food".
What? That's totally insane. Who sponsored those studies? McDonalds?
It kind of was the wrong thread to go off in, I don't disagree with the "study" at all. I do believe obesity is unhealthy in the longterm(and short term too tbh) (I have the cholesterol values in my blood to prove it etc.) but I was kind of annoyed by the people drive-by shitposting vague insults directed at fat people. I also don't think this study is that groundbreaking or new, the health detriments related to obesity have been well documented. I dislike the thin privilege tumbler but I also dislike the people that hate on the people from that tumbler. Body shaming shouldn't be acceptable regardless of the type of body you're shaming imo.
I thought about posting there since I'm yet again doing the traditional for obese people let's lose weight new years resolution. But I just don't think it's the place for me. It seems rather focused on people posting gains they're making in the Gym etc. I can't visit a Gym because I feel disgusting being there everytime someone looks at me the wrong way. Last Gym I went to I ended up quitting one month into working out because some girls came in and literally pointed and laughed at me while I was dying on the treadmill. I ended up having to pay the rest of my one year membership despite not going for the rest of the year. I'm probably not going back to an actual Gym anytime soon. I've pretty much resigned myself to doing cardio in my room/body weight excersize. And going out for walks/runs in the super early morning while it's still dark out. I know how to count calories and have a reasonably good understanding of nutritional information, I just struggle with addiction issues that are amplified by my surroundings and feelings of worthlessness.
About the first part; yup, the world is fucked up. It's bizarre how we're brainwashed to like lousy food. No, how we're WIRED to like lousy food, and the food industry exploits that to it's fullest.
About the second part; you say you lack the self esteem to lose the weight. What if you were to lose the weight, to build self esteem? Show yourself that you can actually do it. Start with something small, take pride in the small part, and expand upon it, bit by bit, and thus expanding your pride, your self esteem, alongside it. That is, if you want to, of course
I find it absolutely infuriating how my brain is wired to like nothing but stuff that's absolutely terrible for me. My palate is all kinds of messed up from decades of fast food and soda. And while I don't deny that there is quite a bit of personal responsibility required, I also can't help but feel like the food industry is bereft of morals/ethics, and is disgusting from top to bottom.
In terms of restoring my self esteem by losing weight, I honestly wish it was that simple. I've lost a lot of weight several times before and my self esteem never improves alongside of it. I've self diagnosed myself with some messed up form of imposter syndrome since I've never taken pride in anything I've ever achieved. When people compliment me on how much better I look after losing weight, I just feel terrible about it. Because in a way it feels like they're telling me how disgusting I was previously and that I'm now slightly less disgusting. What's even worse is that I fully realize by now that my skin won't go back like it did when I was 16 so even if I do lose the weight I'll still be disgusting to most people. I do have high hopes for succes for this attempt though since I'm honestly doing it for myself this time and not for society at large. I'm tired of sitting in my makeshift prison of a room, I'm tired of not being able to do things I enjoy and I'm scared for the future of my health. But I doubt I'll ever get over the 20+ years of fat shaming I've had to endure and I doubt my confidence will ever reach a level that is considered normal. Thanks for offering to help though, you're obviously a nice person and I appreciate the fact that people like you do exist.
I've spent the majority of my life as obese. I'm 6'8", and at my heaviest I was nearly 550lbs. Even at that point, most of what was used to determine 'health' were okay. My cholesterol was never over 100, my sugar was never over 100, my blood pressure usually hovered around 130/80 but my Doctors constantly told me that just because I'm OK now, it won't last especially as I get older, so I tried my best to lose weight.
But all it takes is a single health crisis to fuck everything up. In April of '13 I had two pulmonary embolisms that was caused by a combination of a badly sprained ankle, a wrap that was too tight and a blood disorder I didn't know I had (blood was too thick, clotted too easily basically)
It caused damage to my lungs, and my heart. Now I have a hard time getting around, my heart can not sustain the size of my body easily anymore, I have to keep oxygen with me "just in case". I'm on blood pressure pills because without them my BP gets way too high, unlike before.
Since then, I've dropped 100lbs and I'm still going. I have a goal to reach 300lbs at the moment and see how that fits someone of my height and build. My motivator being that I WILL suffer a massive heart attack if I don't keep dropping the weight due to the heart damage.
There is no such thing as healthy obesity.
But all it takes is a single health crisis to fuck everything up. In April of '13 I had two pulmonary embolisms that was caused by a combination of a badly sprained ankle, a wrap that was too tight and a blood disorder I didn't know I had (blood was too thick, clotted too easily basically)
It caused damage to my lungs, and my heart. Now I have a hard time getting around, my heart can not sustain the size of my body easily anymore, I have to keep oxygen with me "just in case". I'm on blood pressure pills because without them my BP gets way too high, unlike before.
Since then, I've dropped 100lbs and I'm still going. I have a goal to reach 300lbs at the moment and see how that fits someone of my height and build. My motivator being that I WILL suffer a massive heart attack if I don't keep dropping the weight due to the heart damage.
There is no such thing as healthy obesity.
Saintguine
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Healthy obesity always seemed like one of the more oxymoronic terms like Jewish Nazi but I'm glad that stupid fad is getting pounded into the ground.
That is amazing progress congratulations man, do not let any comments get you down because you're pulling through. Keep up the good work and don't be afraid to use any support networks if you haven't.
That is amazing progress congratulations man, do not let any comments get you down because you're pulling through. Keep up the good work and don't be afraid to use any support networks if you haven't.
And those posts are where exactly? Because they most certainly aren't in this thread.
The tumblr gets ridiculed or "disliked" because the very concept of something like "thin privilege" is completely and utterly moronic.
Infinite_Daremo
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There are douches at every gym, but there are still people who understand you are there to lose the pounds. You've just gotta take it on the chin and stick at it.
If you're adamant about working out at home though. I highly recommended the following:
http://www.beachbody.co.uk/product/fitness-training/focus-t25-workout.do
or the classic P90X. Its how i started 4 years ago. They work and they come with diet guides. Theres a Beachbody thread in OT Community which has nothing but nice people all going through the same process.
Half of the first page is people making fun of the delusional fat people on a tumblr unrelated to the study at hand. The tumblr is getting ridiculed because it's full of obese people trying to restore their self esteem by hating on thin people the way they get hated on. Like I said neither side is right, but both sides are leaning towers of dicks shouting at each other to make themselves feel better. Secondly I'm not going to defend the concept of thin privilege since I don't think that's an actual thing. But I am going to state that a lot of people who've never had to deal with obesity are completely and utterly insensitive to the struggles people with obesity face and will act in a manner that is less than pleasant in regards to it.
I fully believe you, but you also have to understand chins get worn down. I'm at the point where a kid tugging on his moms shirt telling her look at the fat guy is enough to send me home trying to hold back tears. I have no chin left bro, all I have left is pain and self loathing, it's not that one comment it's the thousands upon thousands that I have internalized, a tiny jab is enough to open a gaping wound. Thanks for the recommendation and I'll totally look into those programs when I'm at the point where I could succesfully complete one of them. I can't do 30 jumping jacks right now without feeling like I'm dying though so that's probably a ways off.
Rabbi_Vole
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What if we have all the right junk in all the right places? I was told that every inch of me is perfect from my bottom to my top.
Insulting the tumblr =/= insulting all fat people.
And if I say that someone on the internet is full of shit because I'm thin and therefore "privileged", that doesn't make me a dick and I'm not doing it to feel better about myself.
The only thing this thread is "hating" is the idea that being obese is healthy.
I hope you see the difference with fatshaming.
Infinite_Daremo
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Then stick to working out at home. Just dont fall into the cycle of someone called me a name so why should I bother. Every pound you lose is a fuck you to those people. You just have to find the personal motivation to keep you going thats stronger than any insult would ever be.
Zen_Arcade
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They're not making fun of them for being fat, they're making fun of them for being delusional.
Also, someone restoring their self esteem by making up fake excuses to explain away their problems is going to do more harm then good for them in the long run. Because it means that that self esteem was built up on a mountain of delusion and lies that will all come crashing down if and whenever they stop being delusional.
RockTurtle
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people aren't making fun of fat people. they are making fun of a blog that is taking an extreme concept that's unhealthy and applying a privilege concept that makes absolutely no sense.
you don't build yourself up by breaking others down. take from someone who was always "skinny" and had major body image issues for years.
crazygambit
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I also don't believe the notion that "it's better to be underweight than it is to be overweight."
Being underweight has its own set of issues, like passing out because your sugar gets low, feeling week, unhealthy muscles, ect. I was on both sides of the spectrum, myself. When I was younger, up until about age 17-18 I was overweight. I felt horrible, couldn't run a mile to save my life, and led a pretty unhealthy lifestyle. When I hit the summer of turning 18, I took it to the extreme to change my life and get in shape/diet, and I went from being 6'3/6'4 and 230lbs, to being a 150lb waif who passed out on Christmas Eve because I was counting every calorie too closely and my body couldn't take it.
At this point, I work out, eat right and eat a LOT, and I look super healthy while hitting that 200lb mark, because it's all muscle and I'm filled out in the right places. With all of that said, I don't think its the number that matters as much as its how you look with whatever weight you have on you. If you look like Jack Skellington it's time to push it up, and if you have rolls hanging off of you and people can hear your breathing in the entire room it's time to bring it down.
There are people who are in peak physical condition at diffefent numbers, but nobody is healthy being too skinny or too fat.
Being underweight has its own set of issues, like passing out because your sugar gets low, feeling week, unhealthy muscles, ect. I was on both sides of the spectrum, myself. When I was younger, up until about age 17-18 I was overweight. I felt horrible, couldn't run a mile to save my life, and led a pretty unhealthy lifestyle. When I hit the summer of turning 18, I took it to the extreme to change my life and get in shape/diet, and I went from being 6'3/6'4 and 230lbs, to being a 150lb waif who passed out on Christmas Eve because I was counting every calorie too closely and my body couldn't take it.
At this point, I work out, eat right and eat a LOT, and I look super healthy while hitting that 200lb mark, because it's all muscle and I'm filled out in the right places. With all of that said, I don't think its the number that matters as much as its how you look with whatever weight you have on you. If you look like Jack Skellington it's time to push it up, and if you have rolls hanging off of you and people can hear your breathing in the entire room it's time to bring it down.
There are people who are in peak physical condition at diffefent numbers, but nobody is healthy being too skinny or too fat.
Have you ever struggled with maintaining/losing weight? If the answer is no, you're privileged in comparison to the people that have to struggle to maintain/lose weight. Like I said I think a lot of the stuff on that tumblr is bullshit, but it is a privilege not having to worry about your weight. I've got a half brother who grew up eating the exact same things I have and he's never been overweight. I'd consider him privileged to have the genetics that allow him to burn off calories in a more efficient manner than I can.
I do, but I also find the random meghan trainor quotes odd, I also find the people giving off the wall one liner dietary advice odd. There's a lot of hate for fat people that are capable of accepting themselves. I'm not one of them, I hate myself, so that's good I guess. But I honestly can't be mad at the fat people that don't hate themselves.
Hey man I agree, I'm planning to stick to working out at home. I just don't see my weight as anyone elses business unless I specifically ask them for help. A lot of people don't feel that way though and will shit on your for just existing in their vicinity. I know about the personal motivation, I think I was lacking that during past weight loss attempts. I think I've found it this year but we'll see because it's still early during the new years resolution.
Right but what's there to be gained making fun traumatized delusional people besides you feeling good because haha atleast I'm not that delusional. Also yes making excuses for your obesity helps nobody, but making fun of people for making excuses also helps nobody.
Infinite_Daremo
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Seriously. Give FitGAF a try. There is lots of talk about gains and power lifting but there are still people just there for the weight loss. Scanning the thread I can only see people encouraging others for their progress and not everyone is an Adonis in there.
Gordon Shumway
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Like a pretty ugly woman..or a handsome troll..?
I put the work in since I was in my teens to get the body I wanted. So no, it's not a privilege and shit doesn't just melt of me because I have an awesome metabolism.
Set your goals, watch what you eat and get advice on workouts, be it online or by a professional. There's like 5% of overweight people that would be unable to lose weight if the followed those guidelines, because of severe genetical dispositions.
Health isn't a two-class system dictated by genetics. I'm sure you can do it too, if you set your mind to it.
Zen_Arcade
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I'm not exactly worried about the feelings of a group of people who want to push their problems on people trying to educate the world on being healthier, and in some cases what seems like just making up reasons to be mad. Extremists are people I have no real respect for, and I don't think I have to feel bad for calling out stupidity.
Yeah I'm going to flip you on ignore bro. I'm glad you had the mental fortitude and lack of addiction issues to figure out that sweet ass one line diet you posted. Your comments are as useful as a Nike just do it commercial to me.
I'm not sure I'm following the assertion that it doesn't exist. It existed for about 2/5 of the healthy obese people in the study, right?. This is what I'm seeing:
- More than 51% of the Healthy Obese became Unhealthy Obese
- 38% of the Healthy Obese remained Healthy Obese
- 11% Healthy Obese lost weight and became Healthy Non-Obese
So, it is possible to be healthy obese and maintain it over a long period of time. I'm curious about the characteristics of the people who slipped into unhealthy obesity compared to those who didn't, and the people who managed to lose weight and those who didn't; there's surely some lessons there for making it more likely that someone who is healthy and obese will at least maintain their health even if they don't succeed in losing weight.
- More than 51% of the Healthy Obese became Unhealthy Obese
- 38% of the Healthy Obese remained Healthy Obese
- 11% Healthy Obese lost weight and became Healthy Non-Obese
So, it is possible to be healthy obese and maintain it over a long period of time. I'm curious about the characteristics of the people who slipped into unhealthy obesity compared to those who didn't, and the people who managed to lose weight and those who didn't; there's surely some lessons there for making it more likely that someone who is healthy and obese will at least maintain their health even if they don't succeed in losing weight.
John Kowalski
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what happened to dying young and beautiful? fuck health
SolidusDave
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It's kinda in line with news about studies focusing on food A giving you a higher risk to get disease B. Ban food A!!!
Yet food A is actually pretty fine to eat as long as you don't get fat from it. Because the higher risk for disease B still simply comes from being obese.
……forgetit
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Of course it's not healthy, you can't be obese and healthy, are bodies aren't designed to live that way.
RockTurtle
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i don't think positive advice is reason to put someone on ignore for, but that's your prerogative bro.
Brerlappin
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I have no problem with overweight people. I do have a problem with overweight people who cant admit that being obese might be detrimental to your health and refuse to do anything to lose even a little weight. I noticed i was getting quite plump a few years ago and i got up off my ass and busted my hump a few times a week working out and lost the weight and gained muscle and now at 35 im in the best shape ive ever been in in my life. If my lazy ass can do it, there are no excuses.
Read as "I don't want to diet".
I'm glad you had the foresight as a teen to focus on improving your body. Michelle Obama's Let's Move campaign is one of the better public health projects aiming to set healthy living habits as a kid so they will carry those good habits into adulthood.
That said, there is a big difference between being really skinny and working out to gain muscle vs starting very fat and having to cut down. I've been in both of those scenarios.
Contemporary American society is unbelievably stacked in favor of obesity.
- cities/suburbs built for driving instead of walking/biking
- Americans more overworked than ever, which leaves less time for exercise and cooking
- relatively cheap and widely accessible fast food/frozen food that has far more calories than most realize
If anything, I'm surprised more people aren't obese.
As for fat acceptance, it's a fine line. People should be encouraged to lose weight while also not being chastised for being obese. My dad died from obesity-related diseases, so I've seen up close what inaction can do. Unfortunately, he was a single father raising four kids who worked two jobs. That doesn't leave much time for daily exercise or regular healthy food prep.
I've been trying to lose weight for over a year. I'm in a lucky position (mid 20s, stable job, regular workouts), so the path for me, while still hard, is not nearly as hard as a single parent or someone who does not have the income to allow quality groceries or a regular gym membership.
God Dayumm
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I can accept this as healthy obese
When I was 20-24 I worked a very harsh physical job, and I jogged or biked 4km to AND from work every day. But my diet was ridiculous, for example once a week I'd grab a whole loaf of bread on the way home and eat that along with some frozen chili. Or half a tray of lasagna, or a whole large pizza or something. I wasn't thin but I wasn't out of control either. At every checkup the doctor would mention I was overweight but didn't have any outstanding cholesterol problems etc. I felt great so I never worried much - full of energy, never got sick, strong like bear.
But once I quit that job to start college my weight and overall health deteriorated dramatically and it was very hard to get things back on track. I had forgotten how to eat like a normal sane person and those habits were hard to break.
I'm much better now in terms of diet and exercise, but it took a few nasty wake-up calls before I even realized how far I'd fallen. Like the first time I got back on my bike after over a year, and felt like I was going to have a heart attack after 5 minutes of pedaling. I didn't even look that much different yet, but I'd lost a lot of muscle and I was in horrible shape.
Bel Marduk
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There's a lot of money in telling people what they want to hear/read.. also cool avatar!
I mean, lets be honest everyone. You have people shitting all over you, telling you you're fat and disgusting. What else do you expect to come from the world of media?
If we didn't treat obese people like absolute dog shit, we wouldn't have a need for shit like this. I mean, even debunking it will provide for an environment where facebookers will be posting shit worldwide to antagonize people.
If we didn't treat obese people like absolute dog shit, we wouldn't have a need for shit like this. I mean, even debunking it will provide for an environment where facebookers will be posting shit worldwide to antagonize people.
Rest
All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
There have been studies that show that fitness and obesity aren't opposed. If you can walk at a high speed for about 30 minutes and hold a conversation while doing so, your risk for obesity related illnesses is not different from anyone else who can also walk for thirty minutes at high speed while holding a conversation. The issue with obesity is that people who are obese are rarely also fit, and the behaviors that don't maintain fitness also lead to obesity.
I mean, he's big. But like most big athletes, wrestlers, football players, etc, he'll probably die early.
PlayALLtheGames
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Plagiarism! I, and every person in the world with a lick of fucking common sense, debunked this a long time ago.
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