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[Ahasverus]

Fat people should just kill ourselves. We are a burden and a blemish on this perfect society.

Don't think like that. If people insist that much on stopping being fat is for your own good. Pun some effort pal, it could save your life. I know I fight against obesity every day, and it's exhausting, but then I see all good things that come from the fight and I find the motivation to keep going. Being fat is not a sin, but it's not cause of celebration but of concern, it's like having an ilness, you don't want to cherish it, you want to braverly fight it until the end because a better you awaits on the other side. Still, however you look, you're a valuable person with beautiful things to give to the world, nothing in the outside can change that. If you want to change don't do it for the others, it's yoursef, the most important thing, what matters

 

[PlayALLtheGames]

Don't think like that.

Pretty sure he was being incredibly sarcastic.

 

[injurai]

I beg to differ. I suggest you guys read this before making uninformed comments.

The second you let it sink in that we haven't always been a bountiful species, instead one that walked out of Africa on long distance legs fueled by the necessity to find our next meal. You soon realize that fat supplies don't just materialize from pure genetics. It's life style, sure your born into a society enabled what you are. Don't perpetuate the cycle which directly reduces human health. People are mean, but many people want to see you make changes for whatever needs changed in ones life.

An apologist and denialist is simply unbecoming.

 

[Ahasverus]

Pretty sure he was being incredibly sarcastic.

Even if sarcastic it could be felt as defensive :S

 

[terrene]

I'm sure somewhere, Lindy West is very not happy about this.

Thank you. She is so awful and her articles are shitty.

 

[Messofanego]

Surely, there aren't obese people who are against losing weight. You see your BMI or weight and should know it's inevitable. Just because the symptoms aren't clinically present, doesn't mean you can just go about every day the same. If you're happy with your obese body, that's great but know things aren't going to get better. Heck, as I get older and my metabolism will slown down, if I'm not exercising now then I'll be a blob once I'm married. Losing weight is probably one of the hardest things to do in life but at least expressing an intention to engage is a good step.

I'm glad though at least the research was done to prove it one way or the other and people can make an easier choice now.

 

[cm osi]

disgusting healtism propaganda

 

[havokt]

The only arguement I disagree with that people are making is fast food/unhealthy food is cheap. Does anyone here grocery shop? You would be amazed at how much healthy food one can get versus spending $8 for a McDonalds combo.

 

[Envelope]

The only arguement I disagree with that people are making is fast food/unhealthy food is cheap. Does anyone here grocery shop? You would be amazed at how much healthy food one can get versus spending $8 for a McDonalds combo.

Please google "food deserts"

 

[JCX]

The only arguement I disagree with that people are making is fast food/unhealthy food is cheap. Does anyone here grocery shop? You would be amazed at how much healthy food one can get versus spending $8 for a McDonalds combo.

It's not just the price it's the overall cost.

Even if McD's costs slightly more, it is more convenient for many people to just grab ready made food that allows instant gratification rather than spending time grocery shopping, learning to cook healthy meals, then eating said meals.

Yes, you could prepare food from home and bring it with you, but the overall costs (walking into a food joint and getting food almost instantly vs having the knowledge of healthy foods, time to shop and cook foods) can be higher.

Also.

Please google "food deserts"

 

[havokt]

Please google "food deserts"

I am well aware of the notion of food deserts. I am not talking about going to Trader Joe's Whole Foods, etc to get super healthy food. Any place you can get cheap meet, chicken, rice, etc.

I understand it may not be extremely close for people to visit but public transportation is an option. I find it hard to believe people can make it to fast food joints but a cheap type of grocery store is impossible to get to.

Another arguement I hear is American's are too stressed and have no time to cook. Buy a crock pot and put whatever in. Literally takes 5-10 mins of prep time.

 

[Mumei]

I mean, he's big. But like most big athletes, wrestlers, football players, etc, he'll probably die early.

He's also quite obese; a man who is 5'10" and 210 pounds has a BMI of 30.1, and I somehow suspect that he's heavier than that, however tall he is. And for what it's worth, any man who is 5'10" and weighs over 175 pounds (25.1) is considered to be overweight.

 

[RM8]

Eh, food deserts.

Veggies are dirt cheap and widely available in Mexico, and apparently we're now the most obese country in the world. People won't stop drinking Coke and overeating unhealthy food even when given the option, I'd say addiction to food is a much bigger factor.

 

[AlberichMX]

Obesity is not healthy and is already known, there are a lot a articles about this. Like someone said is the same as the "healthy smoking" myth.

 

[Princess Carl]

We live in a society without context. We want people to be healthy and get healthy, but then assume every fat person isn't trying unless we personally see them at the gym killing themselves.

This is the paradox that many posters here are trying explain. You are outcast, derided, insulted, discriminated, and hated from a distance until you're not. There is almost zero middle ground.

It's all a giant blitz of conflicting imagery and advertising designed to keep you lost in a sea of stimuli and self loathing.



Fake Edit: Obesity also being one of the most visible "personal deficiencies" plays a significant role as well.

 

[AlberichMX]

Eh, food deserts.

Veggies are dirt cheap and widely available in Mexico, and apparently we're now the most obese country in the world. People won't stop drinking Coke and overeating unhealthy food even when given the option, I'd say addiction to food is a much bigger factor.

As a mexican I can confirm this. There is a lot of problems in our manage of what we eat. Also a lot of this obesity explosion in our country is related to the use of high fructose syrup which is cheaper than the good ol' sugar cane.

 

[Skux]

What if we have all the right junk in all the right places? I was told that every inch of me is perfect from my bottom to my top.

That seems rather moderate compared to what I was told:

Fuck those skinny bitches, fuck those skinny bitches in the club
I wanna see all the big fat ass bitches in the motherfucking club, fuck you if you skinny bitches. What? Yeah!

 

[RM8]

As a mexican I can confirm this. There is a lot of problems in our manage of what we eat. Also a lot of this obesity explosion in our country is related to the use of high fructose syrup which is cheaper than the good ol' sugar cane.

To be fair, sugar is just as fattening and Mexico is the number one soda consumer (per capita) in the world. People are strongly attached to Coca-Cola and lots of people can't even entertain the idea of trying one of the low-calorie variations currently in the market (Zero, Light, Life).

 

[block tower]

im pretty sure the term "healthy obesity" arose frome the feel good crowd who doesnt want to offend anyone. it didnt take a study to tell you that having an extra chin or three wasnt healthy.

 

[Phobophile]

To be fair, sugar is just as fattening and Mexico is the number one soda consumer (per capita) in the world. People are strongly attached to Coca-Cola and lots of people can't even entertain the idea of trying one of the low-calorie variations currently in the market (Zero, Light, Life).

Doesn't help that soft drinks are cheaper than packaged water in Mexico.

 

[RM8]

Doesn't help that soft drinks are cheaper than packaged water in Mexico.

No, they're not :x

~$20 MXN = 2 liters of Coke = 20 liters of water.

I once heard an older man at a restaurant saying he wouldn't drink water because "he's not a radiator", lol.

 

[Monocle]

Yeah, it always seemed pretty obvious that those "healthy at any size" people were full of it. Being overweight is unhealthy, duh. That fact doesn't make anybody a bad person. Everyone's got issues.

 

[Madao]

i picked a good time to lose weight.

i've lost quite a bit of weight in the last few months by replacing a lot of juice and soda with water because the bills were getting too high and needed to save some money. it's working good for more than that.
(i'm now worried about the water since the whole country's water is purified and apt for drinking and switching to non-purified water would kill our pockets)

 

[Zvonimir Boban]

When I was 20-24 I worked a very harsh physical job, and I jogged or biked 4km to AND from work every day. But my diet was ridiculous, for example once a week I'd grab a whole loaf of bread on the way home and eat that along with some frozen chili. Or half a tray of lasagna, or a whole large pizza or something. I wasn't thin but I wasn't out of control either. At every checkup the doctor would mention I was overweight but didn't have any outstanding cholesterol problems etc. I felt great so I never worried much - full of energy, never got sick, strong like bear.

But once I quit that job to start college my weight and overall health deteriorated dramatically and it was very hard to get things back on track. I had forgotten how to eat like a normal sane person and those habits were hard to break.

I'm much better now in terms of diet and exercise, but it took a few nasty wake-up calls before I even realized how far I'd fallen. Like the first time I got back on my bike after over a year, and felt like I was going to have a heart attack after 5 minutes of pedaling. I didn't even look that much different yet, but I'd lost a lot of muscle and I was in horrible shape.

This is the situation I've been in. Started working in an office over the summer holidays at university but continued to eat like crap. I wasn't playing sports and sitting at a desk 9 to 5 and just ballooned.

Then I ruptured a disc and couldn't do shit for a couple of years because my back wouldn't allow it so I got even bigger and lazier. Any time I'd start to lose some weight either my back would go, or I'd wreck a knee playing sports and I'd be back to square one.

Spent all of my twenties going from overweight to obese for the last two or three years and I was shocked when my doctor put me on Statins for high cholesterol. Just coming off knee surgery over Christmas so hopefully I can work out for a couple of months without any of my limbs falling off and I should be back on the wagon.

 

[Fusebox]

Rats live 30% longer when fed 30% less and humans didn't evolve in an environment where food was available whenever cravings hit is.

Sometimes I like to graze on next to nothing and let my body feed on itself for a day or two.

 

[Zvonimir Boban]

Rats live 30% longer when fed 30% less and humans didn't evolve in an environment where food was available whenever cravings hit is.

Sometimes I like to graze on next to nothing and let my body feed on itself for a day or two.

To hell with that, food is too delicious.