Suicide bomb instructor kills 22 pupils he was teaching

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True, but these were militants who joined up fighting for the "Islamic State of Iraq and Syria", a group so disgusting and violent that even Al-Qaeda wants nothing to do with them. What I can't understand is why people are wondering why people are criticizing those who are laughing or happy at this news? If you read the article, the residents of the neighborhood use even worse language to describe the people who died and what they stand for. Again, suicide attacks aren't a new phenomenon, Japan emphasized kamikaze attacks to great effect in World War II. Sure many women and children are coerced into suicide bombing, but you're describing extreme scenarios, and even then, there is very little difference between the suicide bomber, and the actual fighter. Both are taught to kill their enemies, possibly losing their own life in the process. Whether it's an instantaneous bomb or a prolonged gunfight is irrelevant. I don't think anyone is sitting here actually laughing and happy that children are killed, any more than they laughing that children are being used to make bombs in Syria. But I agree with what you're saying. I think the fact we are so far removed from this fight, it gets hard to see things from a different perspective. Then again, maybe that's a good thing, easier to see these people as the potential killers of innocent people, than those brainwashed into fighting an ideological war.
I wouldn't even call it extreme scenarios. The tactics involving suicide bombings have evolved significantly and I think there are a lot of misconceptions regarding it's practice. What many would call extreme, some would merely dub as creative. It's just why I push the bomb makers and organizers of this type of thing higher up on the ladder of asshole. I'm just 'elaborating' a bit on the type of person to strap a bomb to their chest. They're not all middle-aged men who hold a vendetta or 19 year old uber emotional/misled young adults. One of the most fucked up situations I saw with a suicide bomber was when this kid who couldn't have been over 14 absolutely believed he was holding a dead man's trigger. He thought he controlled his own fate and the surrounding police forces did as well. After a assload of tears, the kid was ready to turn himself over, EOD got ready to move in and the kid got blown up anyways through a remote det. The trigger he was holding never worked in the first place.

The kid was flatout murdered for a CHANCE to kill some bomb techs. And the bastards that strapped him up and drugged him held a parade for him too after claiming that he killed a dozen. He had his own promo tape and highlight reel. Even though his whole ordeal killed no one but himself, he served as a deterrent to future bomb handling and as a recruitment tool.

I fully understand the situation in that area. I just... take slight issue with the way that certain situations are painted. "Even Al-Qaeda doesn't approve of these tactics", first off that can mean all types of things. It often does. Communication isn't always the best and there is hardly a set standard past a certain point. Its a great tagline but it shouldn't be treated like an efficient summary.

I think you know where I'm coming from though.
 
How old were these 'students'?
The use of the word "pupils" makes it seem like these were children. For all we know these are grown ass men (and/or women) who knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

I think the latter is the more likely case.

Threads with funny puns happen all the time on GAF. We all know that the lives of their families will be negatively impacted. But let's not lose sight of the fact these are suicide bombers who's sole intent is to kill innocent people.
 
At least 2 of them were there for a laugh to see how these idiots operate, half them were serious about killing and the other half were forced by family/nutjobs. These people need help from themselves.
 
Believing that 'violence and death of any kind is horrible' doesn't make you a pacifist, let alone an 'extreme' one.

Re-read the latter half of that post you quoted. Believing violence and death are horrible is only the qualifier to their more extremist beliefs. There's thinking violence is bad and death is sad, and then there's thinking no one should kill anyone ever and we should all adopt a pacifist lifestyle. Completely unrealistic and projecting that mentality onto the deaths of people who would have very likely taken more innocent lives had they not been killed when they were - yeah. Clearly, I'm not aiming that post at people who simply dislike violence and death, which would be the majority of humanity.
 
The use of the word "pupils" makes it seem like these were children. For all we know these are grown ass men (and/or women) who knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

I think the latter is the more likely case.

Threads with funny puns happen all the time on GAF. We all know that the lives of their families will be negatively impacted. But let's not lose sight of the fact these are suicide bombers who's sole intent is to kill innocent people.

Why do you make that assumption though? You are aware that children are forced to become suicide bombers, aren't you? That's why I asked in my previous post if anyone knew the ages of these students. Either way I'd rather a sucide bomber blow himself up in the middle of a desert and not a bus, but if there were any kids in this suicide bomber master class I wouldn't feel too much like making jokes. The whole issue of suicide bombings is tragic.
 
Why do you make that assumption though? You are aware that children are forced to become suicide bombers, aren't you? That's why I asked in my previous post if anyone knew the ages of these students. Either way I'd rather a sucide bomber blow himself up in the middle of a desert and not a bus, but if there were any kids in this suicide bomber master class I wouldn't feel too much like making jokes. The whole issue of suicide bombings is tragic.

Just look at any declaration from those who do such things. They are never kids
 
Not that cool to laugh at people coerced into thinking by the self coerced that blowing up people is their religious duty. We should be actually sad they were coerced and got their life wasted when they entered the training school from what could have been a life where they could have contributed to making the lives of everyone better by being noble rather than radical
 
Just look at any declaration from those who do such things. They are never kids

I'm confused, what exactly are you saying? Children are never forced to become suicide bombers? Because, as has already been said, that isn't true...
 
No what I'm saying is ISIS dont use kids.
ISIS comes from all over. Very few groups are truly isolated to the point where you can say they never/dont/refuse/arebetterthan/etc X.

Im just posting though. I'd hate for someone to think I'm side picking or anything like that.
 
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"Ooops, wrong number"

cherry mx blue switch? flappy bird will be no good with that kind of setup.
 
Not that cool to laugh at people coerced into thinking by the self coerced that blowing up people is their religious duty. We should be actually sad they were coerced and got their life wasted when they entered the training school from what could have been a life where they could have contributed to making the lives of everyone better by being noble rather than radical
We get it, man. Its sad that suicide bombers exist. But when you hear news about a suicide bomber killing a dozen people and injuring dozens or hundreds of others, is your first reaction to feel bad for the suicide bomber?

Whatever way you cut it, these people were destined for an early grave either way. Its is undeniably good news to have them die ironically like this rather than have them go out and take many innocents with them.

And at some point, I feel people have to take some responsibility for their own actions. Unless they literally have no other choice, then there's a certain amount of personal accountability that must be placed on these suicide bombers. You cant just pretend they are all just innocent, brainwashed children. By all means, get angry at militant Islam sects, but asking people to be upset after future mass murderers laughably off themselves while practicing killing others is just not gonna get through to many people.
 
Probably not the live demo he had in mind.

They really need to target the brainwashing end of this operation. They have no shortage of volunteers.
 
Won't someone think of the suicide bombers?!?

Well, yeah, I will think of them. I'll think of the circumstances that will drive a person to such extremism. Are they born evil? Or are they a product of their environment? Do they wake up one day and decide, "I'm going to kill innocent people today".

I'm not justifying their actions. Merely asking what drives someone to such an act. It's probably better that they died like this.
 
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