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[KO Traveling Hobo]

Am I not allowed to get emotionally attached to lap dances now!?

A lapdance is so much better when the stripper is crying.

 

[Chet Rippo]

To Love-ru OVA 3

Oh yes.

They actually bothered to come up with a plot for this episode? It's no Ladies X Butlers! special, but it's close.
The little plot there was didn't even get resolved at the end. Oh well, it's not like I watch this show for the plot much anyways.

Being dead for 400 years leaves a girl curious.

 

[Femmeworth]

You're batting .166, congratulations.

I know you're trolling, but the animation is good? Come on. If you want to argue the visuals as a whole are good, be my guest.

 

[Andrew J.]

Why do they have to be mutually exclusive?

Did I say that? On the contrary, I believe there are many works of fiction that are both entertaining and engaging. There also plenty that are only one or the other.

 

[Femmeworth]

I gave Symphogear an 8 while I gave KOTS a 3. Explain that!

I think you already know the answer to that.

 

[Risette]

Did I say that? On the contrary, I believe there are many works of fiction that are both entertaining and engaging. There also plenty that are only one or the other.

What is the difference between "entertaining" and "engaging"?

 

[Nafe]

Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere 01

That was kind of dumb.

No clue who anyone is, what's going on, why they're on a floating ship, why are the boobs xbox huge, what's that holographic shit everyone has, why is that guy trying to ask out a dead chick, why was there a demon dude there, why were there a bunch of weird looking people that looked nothing like the students?

Yeah, that's about it.

It's been awhile since I've seen some of the earlier episodes and I'll have to give them a re-watch, so I don't remember all of the details but I can try to help you out if you're interested in the show.

--Honestly I can't remember why Mushashi is a on a ship, I just accepted the fact that it is a city ship. It could be due to there not being as much land available due to what happens in the back-story prior to the first episode.

--Why many of the girls busts are so big I think is "just because". Pretty much that's the way the original character designer wanted to design them to look for whatever their personal reasons might be.

--The "holographic things" are Sign or Display Frames that show the status of or can be used to activate an ability, be it offensive, defensive or just for general communication purposes. Some abilities work with Ether, which is a substance that exists in the air and is sometimes concentrated along "Ether veins" or some are activated through offerings such as a certain monetary value. I think they go into more detail how this works in subsequent episodes or you just sort of figure it out through observation as you go.

--As far as visiting with the deceased girl, this is further explained as you watch the show.

--Regarding the demon fellow and the others who don't look like students, they are still supposed to be students. It might seem strange but it's certainly more interesting than other shows where the classmates look very similar and are rather just background objects without many details. I personally like that they are all given unique names, looks and personalities and are actually focused somewhat upon, at least initially in the story.

The show does start off with quite a bit of information thrown at you but at the same time you have things like the chase in episode one which makes things interesting to see too such as glimpses of the characters personality types and how abilities work.

 

[duckroll]

More Psycho-Pass news:

I just dug up more stuff thanks to a lead on 2ch. The animation character designer is probably Kyoji Asano, and the production of the show will be handled by Wit Studio.

Wit Studio is previously Production IG Studio 6. IG Port officially turned them into their own studio in April this year: http://v3.eir-parts.net/EIR/View.aspx?cat=tdnet&sid=965563

Asano's Twitter profile confirms he is working at Wit Studio, and he also retweeted the Psycho-Pass news: https://twitter.com/asanovic7

 

[Andrew J.]

What is the difference between "entertaining" and "engaging"?

Entertaining means fun and enjoyable. Engaging means meaningful and thought-provoking.

I doubt anyone besides serious emotional masochists finds Graveyard of the Fireflies entertaining, but it's for damn sure engaging.

 

[Branduil]

All of those things can be summed to just one word. Shaft.

All you need to know. Mark of shit (or gold, your pick)

But Soredemo.

 

[cajunator]

What is the difference between "entertaining" and "engaging"?

A monocle.

 

[Dresden]

 

[cajunator]

What in the fucking fuck?

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

This isn't glue at all!

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

I think the moral of the story here is that scores are pointless.

Conan O'Brien has the best scoring system:

 

[Branduil]

I think the moral of the story here is that scores are pointless.

Welcome to animeGAF, where all the waifus are made up and the points don't matter.

 

[wonzo]

looks better than the anime

 

[Defuser]

Hopefully Psycho pass isn't written by Hiroyuki Yoshino.

 

[duckroll]

Hopefully Psycho pass isn't written by Hiroyuki Yoshino.

It's almost certainly a Gen Urobuchi show. Putting together everything I have dug up so far, the credits would probably look something like this:

Director: Naoyoshi Shiotani
Series Composition: Gen Urobuchi
Original Character Desgin: Akira Amano
Animation Character Design: Kyoji Asano
Animation Production: Wit Studio

 

[Tomat]

It's been awhile since I've seen some of the earlier episodes and I'll have to give them a re-watch, so I don't remember all of the details but I can try to help you out if you're interested in the show.

--Honestly I can't remember why Mushashi is a on a ship, I just accepted the fact that it is a city ship. It could be due to there not being as much land available due to what happens in the back-story prior to the first episode.

--Why many of the girls busts are so big I think is "just because". Pretty much that's the way the original character designer wanted to design them to look for whatever their personal reasons might be.

--The "holographic things" are Sign or Display Frames that show the status of or can be used to activate an ability, be it offensive, defensive or just for general communication purposes. Some abilities work with Ether, which is a substance that exists in the air and is sometimes concentrated along "Ether veins" or some are activated through offerings such as a certain monetary value. I think they go into more detail how this works in subsequent episodes or you just sort of figure it out through observation as you go.

--As far as visiting with the deceased girl, this is further explained as you watch the show.

--Regarding the demon fellow and the others who don't look like students, they are still supposed to be students. It might seem strange but it's certainly more interesting than other shows where the classmates look very similar and are rather just background objects without many details. I personally like that they are all given unique names, looks and personalities and are actually focused somewhat upon, at least initially in the story.

The show does start off with quite a bit of information thrown at you but at the same time you have things like the chase in episode one which makes things interesting to see too such as glimpses of the characters personality types and how abilities work.

I wasn't expecting a serious response. Thanks for taking some time to spell it out for me!

Welcome to animeGAF, where all the waifus are made up and the points don't matter.

This is title worthy for the next thread I think.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

2D is dead. Long live 2D!

This is the logical extension of those Android/iOS apps you can already download today, like that Madoka app which was going around Animu-GAF a few months ago.

It has my express seal of approval and damn when the creation tool hits the Internet the doujinshi community is going to go apeshit in awesome and glorious ways.

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

Conan O'Brien has the best scoring system:

Definitely.

 

[Instro]

I think I gave KOTS a 7 and Nymphogear, dunno. A 2?

Same scores, we must be twins or something.

 

[wonzo]

Revolutionary Girl Utena 39 - END

Well, that was the best show ever.

It's really hard for me to try to write coherently about the ending. That last episode was an insane roller-coaster of emotion. Great music, great imagery and a really perfect conclusion.

Spoiler

In the end, things couldn't turn out perfectly. But Utena demonstrated that she was willing to accept Anthy with all of her flaws, and her tears were able to open the path to eternity, and break Anthy out of her coffin. Maybe Utena has now taken on the burden of suffering (Reaching eternity, she can't exist in this world. Something something Kierkegaard), but she succeeded in her goal of freeing Anthy.

10/10 awesomeness. Thank you everyone who encouraged me to watch and who helped me understand what was happening. I'll watch the movie in a while, but not right now. I think my head would explode if I tried.

Now go and watch the movie!

 

[Novid]

This is the logical extension of those Android/iOS apps you can already download today, like that Madoka app which was going around Animu-GAF a few months ago.

It has my express seal of approval and damn when the creation tool hits the Internet the doujinshi community is going to go apeshit in awesome and glorious ways.

dude, apedong isnt the word.

its apedong hit the fan.

 

[Risette]

Entertaining means fun and enjoyable. Engaging means meaningful and thought-provoking.

I doubt anyone besides serious emotional masochists finds Graveyard of the Fireflies entertaining, but it's for damn sure engaging.

To split these things in two sounds like you are trying to justify pretending to like things that you don't like by calling them "engaging" instead of entertaining.

Let's throw out those two words and bring in something more clear: pleasurable. All good works of art are pleasurable. No, you cannot have art that is both unpleasurable and good. Unpleasurable art is bad art. To say that some art is "meant" to be unpleasurable is nothing more than a defense of bad art. If it brings you pleasure, then for you, it was good. If one thing brings you more pleasure than the other, then for you, that thing is better. Don't deceive yourself!

 

[cajunator]

I know you're trolling, but the animation is good? Come on. If you want to argue the visuals as a whole are good, be my guest.

Sometimes I wonder what I'ma gonna do cause there aint no cure for the Femmeworth blues!

 

[Uchip]

To split these things in two sounds like you are trying to justify pretending to like things that you don't like by calling them "engaging" instead of entertaining.

Let's throw out those two words and bring in something more clear: pleasurable. All good works of art are pleasurable. No, you cannot have art that is both unpleasurable and good. Unpleasurable art is bad art. To say that some art is "meant" to be unpleasurable is nothing more than a defense of bad art. If it brings you pleasure, then for you, it was good. If one thing brings you more pleasure than the other, then for you, that thing is better. Don't deceive yourself!

I dunno
I don't find the mona lisa particularly pleasurable

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Sometimes I wonder what I'ma gonna do cause there aint no cure for the Femmeworth blues!

Um, it's called the Ignore List.

 

[madp]

Welcome to animeGAF, where all the waifus are made up and the points don't matter.

When is it time for the hoedown?

 

[Thoraxes]

When is it time for the hoedown?

Scenes from a Party/Party Quirks, etc. (I don't remember the name) where we would have to imitate the participants of this thread would kill me from laughter.

 

[Chet Rippo]

Um, it's called the Ignore List.

You can't ignore her posts if someone quotes them.

 

[Emitan]

Um, it's called the Ignore List.

Femme is good peoples

 

[wonzo]

Man neogaf mobile really sucks.
Anyway, thats pretty cute but possibly a little disturbing.
Cool tech though!

... possibly!?

 

[cajunator]

Um, it's called the Ignore List.

But then I would miss all the nifty Phoenix Wright gifs.

 

[Tomat]

Um, it's called the Ignore List.

Femme is good peoples

In moderation, maybe.

 

[madp]

But then I would miss all the nifty Phoenix Wright gifs.

surely you'd rather experience them in the original context if you haven't already

 

[Chet Rippo]

Femme is good peoples

We're all good peoples.

 

[Emitan]

We're all good peoples.

:T

 

[Chet Rippo]

:T

Are you saying you're not?

 

[Branduil]

To split these things in two sounds like you are trying to justify pretending to like things that you don't like by calling them "engaging" instead of entertaining.

Let's throw out those two words and bring in something more clear: pleasurable. All good works of art are pleasurable. No, you cannot have art that is both unpleasurable and good. Unpleasurable art is bad art. To say that some art is "meant" to be unpleasurable is nothing more than a defense of bad art. If it brings you pleasure, then for you, it was good. If one thing brings you more pleasure than the other, then for you, that thing is better. Don't deceive yourself!

Sometimes oversimplification is bad.

 

[Emitan]

Are you saying you're not?

No I mean yes we are all good people so it weakens my post

 

[cajunator]

I dare not cast earthen minerals at my foes lest my own translucent dwelling be compromised.

 

[Andrew J.]

To split these things in two sounds like you are trying to justify pretending to like things that you don't like by calling them "engaging" instead of entertaining.

Let's throw out those two words and bring in something more clear: pleasurable. All good works of art are pleasurable. No, you cannot have art that is both unpleasurable and good. Unpleasurable art is bad art. To say that some art is "meant" to be unpleasurable is nothing more than a defense of bad art. If it brings you pleasure, then for you, it was good. If one thing brings you more pleasure than the other, then for you, that thing is better. Don't deceive yourself!

I felt like bringing up this topic today because recently I've seen a lot of people talking about a video game called Spec Ops: The Line. The consensus seems to be that a) the game isn't fun and will make you feel terrible and b) it's a highly recommended, must-play experience.

There was some backlash from people who, like you, believed that a game that isn't fun is can't be worthwhile. I felt like exploring these themes further in a place where a similar topic had come up before.

 

[Risette]

Sometimes oversimplification is bad.

I'm not oversimplifying, though. I am merely getting straight to the point. Pleasure is a complex thing.

I felt like bringing up this topic today because recently I've seen a lot of people talking about a video game called Spec Ops: The Line. The consensus seems to be that a) the game isn't fun and will make you feel terrible and b) it's a highly recommended, must-play experience.

There was some backlash from people who, like you, seemed to believe that a game that isn't fun is can't be worthwhile. I felt like exploring these themes further in a place where a similar topic had come up before.

The backlash is correct.

But, what is "not fun"? Are the mechanics poor? That means it is a bad game.

 

[Branduil]

I'm not oversimplifying, though. I am merely getting straight to the point. Pleasure is a complex thing.

If you admit it's a complex thing why are you trying to oversimplify it by insisting we can only use one word for it?

 

[Risette]

If you admit it's a complex thing why are you trying to oversimplify it by insisting we can only use one word for it?

For clarity?

 

[Crash Station]

To split these things in two sounds like you are trying to justify pretending to like things that you don't like by calling them "engaging" instead of entertaining.

Let's throw out those two words and bring in something more clear: pleasurable. All good works of art are pleasurable. No, you cannot have art that is both unpleasurable and good. Unpleasurable art is bad art. To say that some art is "meant" to be unpleasurable is nothing more than a defense of bad art. If it brings you pleasure, then for you, it was good. If one thing brings you more pleasure than the other, then for you, that thing is better. Don't deceive yourself!

How do you categorize "so bad it's good" works?

 

[duckroll]

How do you categorize "so bad it's good" works?

I don't think he believes that exists for him personally.

 

[Risette]

How do you categorize "so bad it's good" works?

As a contradiction.