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Summer 2013 Anime Thread Zero: grown men playing with dolls/who but WB Masochism

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Railgun S - 15:
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Damn what an great episode. On completely different leven than in original index. So much more fleshed out with damn awesome animation and usage of music. Damn. Really didn't even like original index that much. If they only used the same staff from this series in Index III....
 

cajunator

Banned
Gatchaman crowds ep 2

Man Hajime is too energetic and cheeful poor Sugune being dragged in. Its gonna be one of those turn his world upside down and fall in love character isn't it?

Hajime is kinda like me. I wonder then if Id drive some of you crazy irl lol.

It has the fact that it's very very very very very very moe and adorable going for it.

That and hilarious attempts at English.

This is entirely true!

Has anyone tried to watch anime on Crackle? I have the app on my Roku and i noticed it had some interesting looking shows on it. I'd assume it's full of commercials though, right?

Never heard of crackle. Is it a good service? How many services broadcast animu?

c3bu 3

getting a bit serious... kinda want more yuri and SoL... still kinda ok. oh well hotsprings!

Hot springs eps are meh. Too fanservicey :/

I can't believe you had a whole discussion about Eureka7 music and not a single one of you fuckers mentioned Niji.

You people disgust me.

But this song is so obviously godtier I think people just figured everybody feels the same.
 

Mr.Jeff

Member
A week later after various things including a cold in the middle of a heatwave in Scotchland and I'm finally caught up again....

Kotaku "wrote" about Aku no Hana said:
The role of music is vital in any film, TV series, or anime. Simply put, the music tells you how you should feel about the images you are seeing. In an action film, the score swells with big triumphant notes as the hero mows down the villain's army of minions—making you feel pumped up, rooting for the good guy. But the same scene with slow calm music can evoke sadness at the futility of war and all the lives being lost.

Flowers of Evil, on the other hand, doesn't use either of these musical tactics for the most part and, instead, rarely has any music at all. This is a terrible idea.

Music is a huge part of how we connect with characters on screen on an emotional level. So while a rare lack of music at a critical moment can make you unsettled and unsure how to feel, a near total lack of music leaves you at first confused and, later, emotionally detached from the characters you are watching. And given how thoroughly unlikeable the main leads are, they needed any amount of help they could get.

I know reviewers get a lot of shit for some of the stuff they write especially relating to games and anime but this is probably the worst thing I've read in a long while. I can fully agree that a music score exists to complement noteworthy scenes or moments of intense emotion but the absence of such doesn't make it worse. The absence of music may be there to indicate a scene where you're not meant to have any audio clues for how to react or simply because in a life-like situation, music isn't generally there to provide a convenient foil for what's happening.

This is precisely the reason we end up with so much incidental, bullshit background music when it is not needed!

Not to mention that if you require music to work out what you feel in a particular situation rather than paying fucking attention to what's happening on screen, you clear have severe problems of your own; god knows how you exist in the real world.

Lupin the Third Part I
Episode 2
This episode features one of the more interesting Lupin antagonists, Pycal.
It delved just a tiny bit into Fujiko's complicated relationship with Lupin, and she's torn on who to root for because she's "loves two men at the same time."
It's lacking in the plot dept. in my opinion, but it's still very interesting episode nonetheless.
I finished the first series of Lupin earlier in the year and while I struggle to remember a great number of the episodes from it, this episode and episode 4 are the ones that particularly stand out. While they're not devoid of humour entirely, they feel a lot more substantial than the usual ridiculousness of the series which usually boils down to Plan > Enemy > Fujiko interfering > Triumph > "Success".

I'd like to see your impressions of episode 4 - unless I've missed them.

Must get round to the second season at some point


My first thought was "Good news!" but then I remembered that New Challenger wasn't really as good as the original series. Not mention that the Ippo side of the series feels a bit stale from here on out with only really Takamura's stuff providing blips of excitement. The less said about Itagaki the better. Personal opinions and all that though and I remain optimistic it will be watchable.

Back to lurking.
 
Danganronpa 3

Did they seriously put the game mechanics in the show? Why!?

And to make matters worse, the
executions
are lifted directly from the game. That's super disappointing as I was excited to see a different take on them. And on top of that, it's partially censored :/

This is by far the laziest adaptation I have ever seen. This is worse than adapting a manga panel for panel since they at least have to redraw the scene for those.

olololol I think I'll pass on that one =p


Danganronpa 3

Seriously, anyone who has not played the game and is watching this, STOP. TURN BACK. You're ruining a great game for yourself and subjecting yourself to a mediocre anime at the same time. WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT. YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

I'm still quite enjoying this as a fun recap of the game's story, but even knowing exactly what's going to happen and all the details in advance, it just feels like they're rushing through all this. I can't imagine what it must be like for new viewers trying to process all this information that's being thrown at them out of nowhere with none of the proper context, and with tons of characterisation and key details omitted.

It was fun seeing the
execution scene
play out on the big screen, but even though I can understand why they chose to use exactly the same animation from the game and I'm sure any alternative approach would have turned out worse, it does just add to the whole feeling of the anime being superfluous. Especially when I'm pretty sure they actually removed some of the gorier details of the animation. Anyone who was expecting anything different from the execution scenes (censoring aside) should really have known better, though. It's been obvious since the rocket execution scene at the very beginning of the series that this is how they're going to do it.

So glad others are feelign the same.

This adaptation is pathetic, lazy and underwhelming.
 

Mr.Jeff

Member
Just wanna say you have awesome taste going by your Aria avatar.
Thank you! In the absence of being able to condense down Kozue Amano's scenery porn into an avatar, I make do with one of the many edits of the brilliant facial expressions instead.

Ichigo in shades does look pretty great though.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
A week later after various things including a cold in the middle of a heatwave in Scotchland and I'm finally caught up again....

I know reviewers get a lot of shit for some of the stuff they write especially relating to games and anime but this is probably the worst thing I've read in a long while. I can fully agree that a music score exists to complement noteworthy scenes or moments of intense emotion but the absence of such doesn't make it worse. The absence of music may be there to indicate a scene where you're not meant to have any audio clues for how to react or simply because in a life-like situation, music isn't generally there to provide a convenient foil for what's happening.

This is precisely the reason we end up with so much incidental, bullshit background music when it is not needed!

Not to mention that if you require music to work out what you feel in a particular situation rather than paying fucking attention to what's happening on screen, you clear have severe problems of your own; god knows how you exist in the real world.

You know, come to think of it, using silence as a mode of suspense really hasn't been used as much nowadays. Even all the crappy crime shows that I watch tend to use music rather and silence to invoke "creepiness", so maybe it's a lost art.

So glad others are feelign the same.

This adaptation is pathetic, lazy and underwhelming.
I suppose having no interest in the game makes Dangan Ronpa acceptable to me. Besides, Persona 4 will always claim the crown of shitty adaptation to me.
 

fertygo

Member
But P4 anime was good.

Gatchaman Crowds - 02
Nakamura goes total hipster.. I don't like it, its felt like being insane for hipster sake.
 
I suppose having no interest in the game makes Dangan Ronpa acceptable to me. Besides, Persona 4 will always claim the crown of shitty adaptation to me.

It was said before , but you can't just copy and paste things from a game to an anime like that .

And persona 4 managed to cram enough of the game in the anime besides the plot ... The Anime managed to include S-links in as well and even if you dislike how bland the MC is at the beginning , the subtle change as how he change his expression across the months ( like how you improve the character in the game ) are proof that they adapted the anime properly... i'm not a fan of all the changes they made but AT least :
-the source material is intact
-the pacing is preserved
-the character interractions are in
-it feels like an anime , not like a "let's play"

and the 4 points above aére the reason why dangan ronpa in anime is lazy and horrible
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
But P4 anime was good.
DeSu2 was better than P4.

It was said before , but you can't just copy and paste things from a game to an anime like that .

And persona 4 managed to cram enough of the game in the anime besides the plot ... The Anime managed to include S-links in as well and even if you dislike how bland the MC is at the beginning , the subtle change as how he change his expression across the months ( like how you improve the character in the game ) are proof that they adapted the anime properly... i'm not a fan of all the changes they made but AT least :
-the source material is intact
-the pacing is preserved
-the character interractions are in
-it feels like an anime , not like a "let's play"

and the 4 points above aére the reason why dangan ronpa in anime is lazy and horrible
Double Chie aside, for me Persona 4 was a lazy cut and paste, but with an element of stupidity and fake campiness plugged in that made it almost unbearable at times.

The only time the anime took a chance was with the Nanako festival episode in the middle of the series. And I suppose pretending that the investigation team would actually hang out with people from the other S-links I suppose.
(It was always odd how the two groups of friends were pretty much walled off from each other in the game).
 

Mr.Jeff

Member
You know, come to think of it, using silence as a mode of suspense really hasn't been used as much nowadays. Even all the crappy crime shows that I watch tend to use music rather and silence to invoke "creepiness", so maybe it's a lost art.
Well there's the old joke that you can tell something bad's going to happen by the appearance of creepy music happening but it seems like there's a pervasive need for background music in everything even to the point of adding ridiculous orchestral music to banal things like documentaries.

It's quite telling that I really like Nagahama's other show Mushishi, for the same reason that reviewer would hate it; it's not excessively layered with music tracks.

Perhaps this is just me though.
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
MJP 09

This show is soooooooooooo bad I can't stop watching it. Its so good. I guess I'll catch up with it this weekend.

Tamaki's breasts are getting larger every single episode. She should consider getting them reduced a bit for her own safety. But I have to say out of all the dumb and unrealistic things in this show (and there are so many) her inability to find a single guy that would be willing to date her is right up there with everything else. It's inevitable at some point she hooks up with 4 eyes since both of their libidos are like bunny rabbits (the fact it hasnt happened yet is so anime).

But the whole reveal of the
Aliens
was so dumb it was awesome. The main guy does not give a fuckkkkkk about anything.

The new love triangle is so dumb but its hilarious.

Also
lunch lady
is waifu material.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Well there's the old joke that you can tell something bad's going to happen by the appearance of creepy music happening but it seems like there's a pervasive need for background music in everything even to the point of adding ridiculous orchestral music to banal things like documentaries.

It's quite telling that I really like Nagahama's other show Mushishi, for the same reason that reviewer would hate it; it's not excessively layered with music tracks.

Perhaps this is just me though.

At this point, the lack of non-diegetic/incidental music should be used as a form of subversion of expectation. Maybe it'll make a come back. lol
 

Theonik

Member
Eureka Seven Seventeen
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Can't wait for Renton to be hit by the whiplash again
Wait... So how many skyfish go into making a ship the size of the Gekko? RIP.
So it seems the ESP connection is somewhat permanent now too. This is going to be interesting.
 

cnet128

Banned
Emi > Chi, as always.

something something sudoku something something.

Uh, "of course"? Going by your "mystery show" thing from near the end of your post (good point!), in Ace Attorney you don't play as some other person watching Phoenix Wright, in Touch Detective you don't play as the main characters' butler or something, why don't you play as the Milky Holmes girls themselves in this Milky Holmes game? You should, of course.

Because the Milky Holmes girls are moeblobs and therefore inherently not suited for being a player character. They're designed to be adorable and have cute character quirks that you look at and say "d'awwww" and make you want to hug them. Putting yourself in the shoes of a character like that would just be awkward because then it's like you're squeeing at...yourself? And since they have their own well-defined character traits, even if you did play as them it would inevitably end up feeling less like you're "becoming" them and more like just "guiding" them, which isn't ideal. Also there are four of them and they're supposed to on roughly equal standing as a group. Putting yourself into the shoes of just one of them (presumably Shalo) would throw off that balance.

Inserting a player-proxy character is the logical way to solve all of these problems. Now it makes sense that you're "guiding" them rather than "becoming" them, because you're the mentor/leader character and guiding them is your entire job description. You can interact with all of them equally, and it makes perfect sense from that perspective to be able to "watch over" the girls and generally find their antics adorable.

"The player's proxy to interact with the girls" -- so you are saying that it's a harem game. That is not what this franchise, or those characters, should be.

I'm not saying it's a harem game because at no point is there any indication that your character is pursuing any of these girls romantically. He's just trying to form a bond of trust with them and help them grow into the great detectives they have the potential to be.

Well, Alternative is set in England; they're on a trip there. The villain is basically
a 19th century style guy (England, Sherlock Holmes, so of course they tossed in a connection) who thinks that the modern world is too soft, so people have to fear the darkness again, so he wants to unleash a virus which will kill like 90% of humanity, and Milky Holmes has to stop him.
Do the games have anything like that in them? It certainly couldn't be much more out of place compared to anything in the first two seasons of the anime.

That seems perfectly in line with the kind of "supervillain-style" plots that the game includes. The final chapter of the first game features
the true villain (who has been manipulating the Phantom Thief Empire all along) attempting to blow up a super power generator, and with it all of Yokohama, in order to exact revenge on Kobayashi and prove to the world that Phantom Thieves reign supreme.

That doesn't sound nearly as bad as the guy from Alternative...
though I thought he showed up in the games, or something, since he gets away at the end... I thought that was a game hook or something like that.
And yes, THAT little bit there made Alternative even worse.

Well, apparently Alternative takes place after the first game, and I haven't played the second, but a little research suggests that Alternative's villain hasn't shown up in any other material =/ It does sound like Alternative wasn't very well-conceived and was possibly trying to lay plot hooks for something that never materialised.

Apostrophes are the worst. Working'!! is the worst title for a sequel.

They're not apostrophes gais, they're prime symbols!! Honestly, don't you even maths.

Hot springs eps are meh. Too fanservicey :/

No such thing as too much fanservice (as long as it's not tasteless)! The female body is a beautiful thing.

I suppose having no interest in the game makes Dangan Ronpa acceptable to me.

This is a bad attitude and you should feel bad. If you're at all interested in the anime, then you should be interested in the game, since it's exactly like the anime except better in every way.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
This is a bad attitude and you should feel bad. If you're at all interested in the anime, then you should be interested in the game, since it's exactly like the anime except better in every way.
The game being in first person is what's putting me off, unfortunately.
 

cnet128

Banned
The game being in first person is what's putting me off, unfortunately.

It's just like the Phoenix Wright series in that aspect, though. First-person during the investigation segments for ease of taking in and interacting with the environment, and third-person dynamic-cam during the actual trials. It's really well-presented.
 

kewlmyc

Member
So glad others are feelign the same.

This adaptation is pathetic, lazy and underwhelming.

Check out my review. I completely agree. There's no point in anyone watching this adaption. Spoils the twist for non-game players and it uses too many assets from the game for those who played it to care.
 
Naegi's a cool guy, stop hating on Naegi =/
i don't hate naegi ... it like him even.
Given his status as a "normal guy" in a group of extremes i feel that they did a good jobwith him
Check out my review. I completely agree. There's no point in anyone watching this adaption. Spoils the twist for non-game players and it uses too many assets from the game for those who played it to care.
Even the climax battles ! it made sense in the game but for an anime that's just incredible they went in with it.
No matter how insulting you intended this remark to be, it's still not possible. The DeSu 2 adaptation was incomprehensible if you didn't play the game.

I didn't play the game and DeSu was understandable ..it's just that some parts were WTF
Ep 11 was just ...
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
It's just like the Phoenix Wright series in that aspect, though. First-person during the investigation segments for ease of taking in and interacting with the environment, and third-person dynamic-cam during the actual trials. It's really well-presented.
Well, from the videos I saw, it looked like you had to explore the school in first person though. lol

No matter how insulting you intended this remark to be, it's still not possible. The DeSu 2 adaptation was incomprehensible if you didn't play the game.
I'm not going to say DeSu2 was good in any way, but I could follow along and I haven't played the game.
 

Kurita

Member
Summer Nude 1
Mikuriya Asahi works as a photographer for weddings and school events in a sea side town. Chiyohara Natsuki works at a famous Italian restaurant in Tokyo. On her wedding day, her husband-to-be jilts her, and as the photographer hired for the occasion, that is the first encounter between the two. A disillusioned Natsuki, decides to move to the same seaside town as Asahi, where she works as a cook at 「Aoyama」. She befriends Taniyama Hanae, who has been secretly in love with Asahi for 10 long years. Unfortunately for Hanae, Asahi only sees her as an old friend, and nothing more. Having found out about Hanae's love for Asahi, Natsuki encourages Hanae and gives her emotional support in trying to capture Asahi's heart. However, Asahi cannot forget his girlfriend Kasumi, who had suddenly disappeared 3 years ago.
An unforgettable love that is held on fast in the heart. With the power of summer, the heart is stripped bare and starts afresh for all three of them.

This was quite entertaining. It's not original at all but still, I really liked it.
I'm a sucker for shows/movies taking place near the sea, so I'm satisfied. The cast is great, I simply love seeing Karina, Yamapi and Toda Erika together, they have a good chemistry.
Cool to see Nagasawa Masami, she's way more likeable than she was in Last Friends, where I just wanted to punch her everytime she did something stupid. And she's pretty hawt with short hair.
Overall it was cool, and it's the kind of show that you want to watch during Summer.

And now, here come the waifus (and the husbando) :
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Summer Nude 1



This was quite entertaining. It's not original at all but still, I really liked it.
I'm a sucker for shows/movies taking place near the sea, so I'm satisfied. The cast is great, I simply love seeing Karina, Yamapi and Toda Erika together, they have a good chemistry.
Cool to see Nagasawa Masami, she's way more likeable than she was in Last Friends, where I just wanted to punch her everytime she did something stupid. And she's pretty hawt with short hair.
Overall it was cool, and it's the kind of show that you want to watch during Summer.

And now, here come the waifus (and the husbando) :

So I guess its called Summer Nude because one should watch it during the Summer while Nude?

Seems interesting. I haven't watched any JDramas in years so maybe I'll try this one. 10 years seems very JDrama to me, like come on really.
 

Kurita

Member
So I guess its called Summer Nude because one should watch it during the Summer while Nude?

Seems interesting. I haven't watched any JDramas in years so maybe I'll try this one. 10 years seems very JDrama to me, like come on really.

Stuff you should watch :
Galileo
Freeter Ie wo Kau
Kagi no Kakatta Heya
Legal High
 

cajunator

Banned
The final box and disc art for Sentai's AKB0048 first season release certainly looks idol-riffic. The disc art is also different between the BD and DVD sets, something I don't think I've seen before from them.

fuck yeah. Got this preordered :D

I pointed out that someone had plastic surgery.

Well thats kinda ridiculous. But...maybe in context it was inappropriate.

I don't know, but Bunny Drop is a pretty good show in that regard.

As long as you never, ever open the Manga or even read about it. Ever.

Poor Corvy kun.
 

Defuser

Member
To Aru Kagaku no Railgun S ep 15

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FUUUUCK YEAH!!!! The Touma vs Accelerator fight remake is damn godly and pure epic. This shit is ten times better than the Index's fight.
 
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