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Summer 2014 Anime |OT| this thread has been outsourced to Toei Phils
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AmethystEnd
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Well it's only going to be 1 cour. It's likely going to have all the events animated from the first P4A heavily abridged with the new stuff getting the main focus. I personally think that's going to end up weird, but hey, I'll watch it.
If I become illiterate I'm blaming Tom Udutaka.
Personal biases aren't insurmountable or else it would be impossible to discuss anything from an academic standpoint
The important thing is just to be aware of them and try to minimize their impact on proper analysis. You of course don't have to agree with any individual's analysis but the the beautiful thing is that you are able to offer you're own rebuttals. I hope you aren't saying "everybody is biased so no analysis matters" because that's both defeatist and untrue. Well I'd say it seems to "miss the point" to critique the narrative plotting of a work that attempts to convey its value and message solely through audiovisual stimulation (for lack of a more appropriate word). You have to bring different tools to different jobs so to speak.
I definitely admit there is a level of subjectivity to any of these sorts of discussions. But I'm wary that there seems to be a desire to sweep aside well-tempered criticism under the guise "that it's all subjective so who cares - it doesn't matter what anybody says X".
Keister Ledger, the man-raping book.
AmethystEnd
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Personal biases aren't insurmountable or else it would be impossible to discuss anything from an academic standpoint
Again, I think you're missing the point. Of course it's possible to discuss things from an academic standpoint in theory and of course personal biases can be pushed aside. I'm maintaining that I've yet to see it happen on a message board regarding media.
When I finally see it happen, I'll gladly concede. Until I see such a discussion firsthand, everything you've said just sounds like idealism.
If this sounds defeatist, it's because while I'm not cynical about the media being discussed, I am cynical of the discussions.
Edit: Didn't read the last part of your post since it didn't seem addressed to me.
I'm not trying to "sweep aside" anything. Refer back to my original post. I was just explaining why I stay out of discussions. If you find value in those types of discussions, cool. I don't.
I agree entirely. There may be subjective elements, but that doesn't mean there's no value in discussion. It's fine to disagree with someone's critique, but it's not fine to halt a discussion because of it.
I'd like to post more, but I have to be off to work now.
Admiral Woofington
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I'm at work doing jack shit because lab intern during testing.
#smokeweederrday
#2cool4school
#smokeweederrday
#2cool4school
Is this final? Are the times right or are they still mixed up? Lemme know if it's vetted and accurate, so I can put it into the OP.
Dedication Through Light
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CR - Free! Eternal Summer 8:30 am
FN - Free! Eternal Summer 11:30 am
Thats confusing..
That needs to be fixed to CR/FN - Free! Eternal Summer 8:30 AM (PST)
The ??? need to be removed from all the DS/HL as their all the same time (except for black butler, 1wk delay (north america).
Bought
I'm confused. How is that even possible? Those sorts of discussion come up pretty regularly everywhere online, even on GAF (though you often have to wade through nonsense to see them). If we want to use Psycho-Pass as an example, a few people in the last few pages have already provided breakdowns of problems with the show. If those posts were pressed, it would be possible (time willing) to elaborate upon them and a longer, more complex conversation could follow (but a lot of us are at work right now so doing the "research" required in a fuller conversation is though).
As for the last bit, I didn't mean to try to implicate you or anyone specifically of anything, sorry. I just felt a bit confused as to the origin of this line of thought?
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When a series chooses to add a slight supernatural wrinkle to things, that's a way to ensure my interest. In this case, the revelation that Touko can see the future under certain circumstances. So far, it's fuzzy and doesn't last for long enough that it hints towards any kind of certainty, but that's going to do a lot as far as potential couples in this show go.
When a series chooses to add a slight supernatural wrinkle to things, that's a way to ensure my interest. In this case, the revelation that Touko can see the future under certain circumstances. So far, it's fuzzy and doesn't last for long enough that it hints towards any kind of certainty, but that's going to do a lot as far as potential couples in this show go.
AmethystEnd
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Responded in a PM.
In this case, the supernatural stuff just turns me off. I suppose I should've looked into the series more before picking it up, but this is not what I was expecting at all.
Me too.
I generally hate people with abilies that watch randomly in the future, it's just to convinient everytime.
There wasn't much you could look into. It's an anime original, and this twist was only just revealed a few minutes ago.
My taste is that elements like this are part of the anime feel that I want anime to have, and can often serve some sort of metaphorical purpose as well. Realism has its merits, but it's never been something I felt anime absoloutely has to do.
Lots of things are convenient in fiction.
Admiral Woofington
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We don't always look eyes to eye. But with this? You're all right link. You're all right.
Jex
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I can't handle positive things being said about Free Deux: Free-er. My mind has been blown.
Admiral Woofington
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For all the judging dimb does he still sticks with shows like free and chuunibyou. That's being a trooper I guess. Never losing hope on kyoani.
Jex
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2 soon brother.
Of course, but e.g. a random encounter with an important person is - for me at least- more believable as this selective future viewing. That don't work at some moments and conviently showing the right place, time while deviating between rules. Its rare to see someone who sees e.g. exactly what happens in 5 days in the place they're standing right now. But they often see completely different visions from different places, in totally diffent times. So it's most likely totally random what they see, and yet they always see relevant stuff.
AmethystEnd
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I've got no issues with lack of realism generally. Hell, I got blindsided by the supernatural stuff in Natsuiro Kiseki and still somewhat enjoyed it.
I just hate "David" and his forced melodrama. That in conjunction with the supernatural element just make this anime feel like a chore to watch, so I'm done.
That could be attempted to be weaseled away by saying it has something to do with their current mental state, but ultimately it's because there wouldn't be a story.
Fair enough.
Jex
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You know, this reminds of me of that Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei sketch where all the men line up to be insulted.
Don't, the translation is terrible, just wait for the adaption this Fall. Also considering your criticisms of Zero you'd absolutely despise the Fate route of the VN.
Admiral Woofington
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Once a show becomes a chore to watch drop it. I did that with Majin bone. And one week friends. And white album 2. And many others. Brynhildr would've been a chore to watch but then glorious second op happened and saved anime. Also the awesome writing.
Jex
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What a missed opportunity to use the term "fayvourite".
I just say, I don't like how this ability is excecuted in a lot of storys and is just lazily implemented. There are ways how you could make something like this work.
I still prefer "Fate/Stay In the Kitchen", courtesy of IRC.
Admiral Woofington
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Oh god please do this one. Especially if somebody can sneak in the gif of knk of the lead kicking the girl into the counter.
I love this, I'll keep it as a reminder for when I make the eventual OT.
Jex
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There was pages and pages of criticism back when it aired, and just a couple of days ago when someone asked I wrote a whole post on the subject citing multiple other posts on this very subject
Admiral Woofington
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There's slight hope but not really. Unless ufotable rewrites Shirou and drops the harem and light hearted comedy scenes I doubt it. And the pv already showed taiga. All hope is lost.
I wasnt here when it aired. But I'll take a look at your post when I get back from work.
Best OT title,
Fate/Stay Night OT: Sequel to Fate/Zero
Taiga is by far the best girl in the entire franchise.
Fate/Stay Night OT: Sequel to Fate/Zero
Taiga is by far the best girl in the entire franchise.
Is there really no hope that ufotable's version of FS/N might be enjoyable to someone who liked FS/Z? I want to go into FS/N hype (since I know nothing about it but thought FS/Z was great) but its hard to have a hype boner when everybody says expect it to be super shit
Well, the thing is the only hold Zero has over Stay Night is that overall plot progression is better, becuase I found its characters to be a lot weaker for the most part. By this I mean its original characters mind you, so I'll discount Kirei, Saber, and Gil which Nasu had pretty much already written for Gen. In the end of Zero the only original characters I can say I even liked were Rider and Kerry because everyone else was so bland or just underdeveloped unlike in Stay Night where most of the cast get much more exploration, but that's to be expected with Zero where characters just existed to fulfill the ideology quota. The comments about it being a harem is wrong too, cause it really isn't, it just shifts from light hearted tone during the day to grimdark at night because none of the masters would dare to operate during the day. It's not so bad as it's just different, though if they choose to go a Heavens Feel-themed route you can expect a similar atmosphere to Zero but with as I'd say, the stakes being much higher for the cast compared to Zero as the whole Holy Grail War
being shown as the sham it is
#SNIsGood
Dedication Through Light
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Ranma 1/2 16
I think this style of comedy is a lot more my preference than stuff like Nichijou and Nichibros. In most other types of shows I'd probably find Azusa very annoying, but here she's hilarious. Bringing how Ranma's dad and calling him Oscar was going to happen at some point but it was still great.
I think this style of comedy is a lot more my preference than stuff like Nichijou and Nichibros. In most other types of shows I'd probably find Azusa very annoying, but here she's hilarious. Bringing how Ranma's dad and calling him Oscar was going to happen at some point but it was still great.
Admiral Woofington
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That's like saying "he's the smartest kid in the short bus". Plus I couldn't stand how positive she is. And also the beating up people and screaming. What is this the 1940s? Do I need to bring out curly and moe?
Edit: to clarify I'm fucking around. No need to write angry response.
Physical comedy is 1940s? Didn't know Home Alone was that old.
Also lol if you think this was an angry response.
Dedication Through Light
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CR added Encouragement of Climb s2
Now if they would get strange+ 2.
Now if they would get strange+ 2.
Oh damn, they really are gonna go up to the Aogiri arc. Gotta see the second episode before I can comment on its pacing but damn I'm really not ready for this ;_;
Admiral Woofington
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Lol I mean the three stooges are the staple not sure when they're from I just took an uneducated guess. Tom and Jerry as well. As a whole the west seems to have drifted away from physical comedy for a while now. Those that still do it are looked down upon as plebeians.
Anime on the other hand still finds that shit hilarious.
SliceSabre
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Glasslip 02
I do not care enough about these character and this horrible drama for them to go full stupid this early in the show. Dropped until further notice.
I do not care enough about these character and this horrible drama for them to go full stupid this early in the show. Dropped until further notice.
Is there really no hope that ufotable's version of FS/N might be enjoyable to someone who liked FS/Z? I want to go into FS/N hype (since I know nothing about it but thought FS/Z was great) but its hard to have a hype boner when everybody says expect it to be super shit
Its fine, Jarmel, me and June will staying with the hype.
FS/N is flawed as hell but still one of the most fun chunibyou story arpund , there's reason why the VN are so iconic.
And with high production value, show will not fail at entertainment value.
SliceSabre
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I love how people complain about Shirou being a terrible character as though they are being willfully ignorant of what the story saying in relation to Archer. I am going to enjoy the hell out of this and sing its praises.
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