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I don't think you understand quite what I'm saying. The presentation's objective is not about fair treatment or being equally offensive or whatever. It's intent is to present a scenario featuring a number of characters, and then extract maximum offense to the viewer using that scenario. In the case of the anime, the scenario is a girl away from her boyfriend spending the night with two friends. Changing the scenario to a female perspective is probably, as ironic as it sounds, meant to engage more female audiences to the work. As I've mentioned before Ufotable has a number of female staffers working there, and they also have a sizable built-in female fanbase.

I can't speak for the effectiveness of engaging such an audience only to try to offend them as much as possible because the entire logic behind such horror works is something I don't think I will ever get, but I certainly do believe that it's not done to undermine women in particular. I think of it as an offensive-for-everybody premise adapted with a feminine slant if that makes sense. It might not be the best idea to play with gender role reversal when something is basically going to offend anyway, but then again I don't see what people get out of Junji Ito stuff in the first place.
Okay, I see what you are saying now. I responded with that since you said that "it's fairly offensive in general." Which implied to me that you didn't think it was conveying anything about women in particular. I'll look at it somewhat differently if it really was intended for an audience comprised significantly of women, if not majorly. The demographics of Ufotable's workforce doesn't really matter to me (in this discussion) unless women occupied positions of power, especially concerning the production.
 
Well, with my Girls und Panzer marathon at an end, I'll finally go to sleep. Don't wanna stay up to wait for Akame, Sabagebu, and Nozaki subs.
 
Haikyuu!! Episode 15 - Revival

Second OP and Second ED will probably be the weakest parts of the series, neither song are exciting. Visuals are alright though.

Great episode spending much time on the prematch character interactions and such. Imaizumi Oikawa and some Kindachi stuff was awesome. I loved how Oikawa was during the match, looking pretty bored, but then when the combo came up he was all in front excited like.

Nishinoya and Tanaka are too hype though, that one moment made me laugh quite a bit.

And the lets go lets go dateko.
Yep. Not a fan of ghe two new songs. The first ones really matched the melancholy and light atmosphere of the series.
 
Kill la Kill 06

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Haha.

Well, some true dedication to the cause from that Sanageyama. Ryuko got lucky there at the end.
 

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More or less around the same time we witnessed the first look at Ronia the Robber's Daughter it also dropped a second TV commercial for When Marnie Was There, that I haven't seen posted here yet:

"When Marnie Was There" 2nd TV Advert - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ4ct4Ef7iA

Not the same shock value, yeah, but I think Mr. Yonebayashi can be on his own the future of Studio Ghibli too... and I love it!
 

fertygo

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Stardust Crusaders hasn't been very good though.

I always thought you familiar with the material, as manga reader that knowing there will be weaker part here and there I thought its great adaptation, always bright up my friday, and there's better material to look forward to.
 
More or less around the same time we witnessed the first look at Ronia the Robber's Daughter it also dropped a second TV commercial for When Marnie Was There, that I haven't seen posted here yet:

"When Marnie Was There" 2nd TV Advert - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ4ct4Ef7iA

Not the same shock value, yeah, but I think Mr. Yonebayashi can be on his own the future of Studio Ghibli too... and I love it!
Hmm, I must have missed the announcement for this.
 

Narag

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Nandaka Velonica 5


Best ep so far, probably because the night time scenes and accompanying lighting fit the sci-fi elements really well. Also because it wasn't about food this time.

I guess we have an antagonistic force now at any rate.
 
I always thought you familiar with the material, as manga reader that knowing there will be weaker part here and there I thought its great adaptation, always bright up my friday, and there's better material to look forward to.

I haven't read most of Stardust Crusaders. I'm not criticizing the adaptation specifically, but for whatever reason Jojo hasn't been doing it for me the way Battle Tendency did. I'm not calling it bad though.
 

mankoto

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Space Dandy 15
Wasn't exactly dandy, but I certainly wouldn't call it bad. A semi-serious Dandy episode is good every once in a while.
 

Chariot

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Barakamon 02

I am a bit irritated by this episode. It was fun and the new characters are simple, but alright, but I don't like how they played overwork as a joke without even attempting to show, that it's a really bad thing. They should've held back Naru for a second there and make sensei realise that breaks are important, instead of that knock-out joke.
Took you long enough.
Well, it's still one of the better things on my not-picking-up-obvious-things track record. I am sure I already watched half a dozen shows to end without picking up plot important key points.
 
Barakamon 01

I am a bit irritated by this episode. It was fun and the new characters are simple, but alright, but I don't like how they played overwork as a joke without even attempting to show, that it's a really bad thing. They should've held back Naru for a second there and make sensei realise that breaks are important, instead of that knock-out joke.Well, it's still one of the better things on my not-picking-up-obvious-things track record. I am sure I already watched half a dozen shows to end without picking up plot important key points.

Watch episode 2.
 
Barakamon 01

I am a bit irritated by this episode. It was fun and the new characters are simple, but alright, but I don't like how they played overwork as a joke without even attempting to show, that it's a really bad thing. They should've held back Naru for a second there and make sensei realise that breaks are important, instead of that knock-out joke.Well, it's still one of the better things on my not-picking-up-obvious-things track record. I am sure I already watched half a dozen shows to end without picking up plot important key points.
You're gonna like episode 2 then.
 

Narag

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I haven't read most of Stardust Crusaders. I'm not criticizing the adaptation specifically, but for whatever reason Jojo hasn't been doing it for me the way Battle Tendency did. I'm not calling it bad though.

I think a lot of elements contribute to that. Less charismatic cast, weaker OST, quest doesn't carry the same urgency as it should at this point so feels nearly aimless at times, and general conflict resolution is lacking compared to Battle Tendency so far.
 

mankoto

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Barakamon 01

I am a bit irritated by this episode. It was fun and the new characters are simple, but alright, but I don't like how they played overwork as a joke without even attempting to show, that it's a really bad thing. They should've held back Naru for a second there and make sensei realise that breaks are important, instead of that knock-out joke.Well, it's still one of the better things on my not-picking-up-obvious-things track record.
Oh the irony episode 2 will bring to you.
 
fuck me does Nozaki-kun seriously get released in 4 hours and 40 ish? Well I guess I'll be watching it at night if not tomorrow. I have the world cup final to watch

Go Germany!!!

Anyway I see people making season rankings so here's mine:

1) Barakamon
2) Terror in Resonance
3) Nozaki kun
4) Aldnoah

OP rankings:

1) Barakamon
2) Nozaki kun
3) Aldnoah

ED rankings:


1) Barakamon

Is Barakamon actually an 4-panel manga?

No, its not.
 

mankoto

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Is Barakamon actually an 4-panel manga?
After a quick skim through a random chapter, no. The panel layout is extremely simple though.

Haha, sorry guys, I ditched the number, it was episode 2 :D
Ah. Well, they did refuse to give him his set while hospitalized so it does show that they do care. Although I understand that treating it as a comedic affair doesn't really set that vibe.
 

Defuser

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Onii-sama and friends show ep 15

Oniisama has proven once again how he is imba to everything and these 2 jobbers geniuses from third high are gonna get their ass kick in next week.
 
Yeah I gotta say the Ending for Barakamon is so magical. It gives off major feels.

http://youtu.be/09CLgLylM3Y

The visuals look so pleasing and unique. And in the end where he holds Naru's hand just killed me. The animator who did this ending did a splendid job. A true job well done.
 

Chariot

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Well everyone was trying to get him t
o stop over-working at the hospital at least.
It'll probably become an ongoing theme.
I hope so, as mankoto I am not quite alright with how they completely focused on the comedic part and sensei didn't get to realize anything while hospitalized, because of this gag where the nurse sends him forcefully to sleep.
Also every bad symptom of his insomnia gets only played for laughs: Barfing, being so exhausted that people can tramble on him in the sleep and barely able to move at times.
 

duckroll

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Okay, I see what you are saying now. I responded with that since you said that "it's fairly offensive in general." Which implied to me that you didn't think it was conveying anything about women in particular. I'll look at it somewhat differently if it really was intended for an audience comprised significantly of women, if not majorly. The demographics of Ufotable's workforce doesn't really matter to me (in this discussion) unless women occupied positions of power, especially concerning the production.

I agree that the demographic of the workforce doesn't really matter if they're not in positions to make creative decisions. That was just meant to convey that the studio attracts a female audience both as fans and as people who would want to work there. The question eventually goes back to how well the men who write and direct actually address that audience. It's a bit trickier there unfortunately.

Like you said before, there's definitely a level of awareness at Ufotable with regards to misogyny in the medium. I think it would be fair to say that if you work daily in a more gender balanced environment, the odds are better that you're at the very least aware of how different people consume and view the industry in general. How that's ultimately applied of course is another matter.

Personally I would like to see modern Ufotable step out of their comfort zone more and make something really different and more accessible to general audiences. They've been getting a lot of success between Tales adaptations and Type-Moon stuff, but it's a pretty restrictive range. Making more stuff like Minori Scramble and Yoyo & Nene would definitely give their output more range.
 

Midonin

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Survival Game Club 02

Momoka shot first. And is also kinda petty and revenge filled. Which means that compared to her friends, she somehow comes across as the most dangerous. According to her mom's description of Cure Lemonade - "little girls hiding an inner darkness" - then I must say that Rumi Ookubo was the perfect casting choice. More than a few shades of Chinatsu are being channeled here. Kayo remains my favorite girl, and the sketches are focusing just as much on potential yuri love triangles as the hardware. I'm not sure how I feel about it yet, but it's got a lot that I like going for it.
 
Damn, the CGI in Aldnoah is so ugly.

I really wouldn't mind CGI if these studios were actually really good at 3D animation and were actually developing good frameworks that allow for a somewhat similar 2D animation look. But this... huge disparity between the two is just so distracting and I don't even feel like the 3D animation quality considered on its own is any good either.

As far as the episode goes, everything's already been said. One of my bigger disappointments are the cartoon villains that are the Martian commanders.

Having read some more about the Hiroshima bombing on reddit a week ago and then seeing how mercilessly the Martians just obliterate entire cities also appears just so extreme. I mean, the civilization split up 40 years ago and are both completely human... how can they have so darn little empathy for these people?`But hey, generic cartoon villains don't care...
 

Frog-fu

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Overman King Gainer 02

OK, I don't know how many of you have seen this anime since it's not that well known as other mecha anime, but if you have, can you tell me whether you prefer the dub or sub version? I'm currently sticking with the dubbed version because the cast really is great for the most part. My only annoyance is that the MC's dub voice actor is fucking unbearable. I'm talking Johnny Yong Bosch as Renton Thurtston from Eureka Seven levels of bad. It sounds so bloody unnatural and obnoxious.

I'm probably going to stick with the dub cause the rest of the cast is stellar, but man, Guilbea Darrel is a terrible voice actor.

Voice actor woes aside, I think the anime is pretty entertaining and I find the entire world and art direction simply gorgeous. Reminds me a lot Nausicaä.
 
Damn, the CGI in Aldnoah is so ugly.

I really wouldn't mind CGI if these studios were actually really good at 3D animation and were actually developing good frameworks that allow for a somewhat similar 2D animation look. But this... huge disparity between the two is just so distracting and I don't even feel like the 3D animation quality considered on its own is any good either.

As far as the episode goes, everything's already been said. One of my bigger disappointments are the cartoon villains that are the Martian commanders.

Having read some more about the Hiroshima bombing on reddit a week ago and then seeing how mercilessly the Martians just obliterate entire cities also appears just so extreme. I mean, the civilization split up 40 years ago and are both completely human... how can they have so darn little empathy for these people?`But hey, generic cartoon villains don't care...

It's called being racist dicks.
 

Narag

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Princess Nine 23

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Pretty sure the H stands for Hooligan.

Wow that was a team comprised entirely of assholes. Felt good to see the girls' team win.

... music to close the ep reminds me of another of Masamichi Amano's work. will be driven crazy now. (It's likely something else from Giant Robo lol)
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
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I want you to think about what you know about iDOLM@STER and then I want you to forget all that because Xenoglossia doesn't just tip the concept on its head, it pushes it down a hill, because honestly I don't even know if the show writers had any idea what the concept of iDOLM@STER is. However, despite all that, the end result is much better than it sounds, well certainly for those who are correct and fans of Haruka. For fans of others I'm afraid you may not be so keen on how things turn out, but sacrifices have to be made and every little thing to make Haruka look better is a good thing in my book. OK, Iori fans don't suffer too badly either.

I'm reviewing this as someone watching the show in the year 2014 where we've already had a true to the game anime and two series of the adorable Puchimas spinoff. Basically iM@S fans have plenty to see in terms of animation. Now I can understand that back in 2007 when Xenoglossia originally came out it may have been a bit of a blow to have a show that had hardly anything to do with the games apart from the characters but today I feel we can forgive that and should just enjoy it for what it is. Now as a 2007 show this was before Takane and Hibiki were on the scene so I'm afraid fans of them may feel a little disappointed, but, oddly, despite Miki making her debut before this show she is nowhere to be seen. Likely due to the show actually being in the planning stages when she was first revealed. But whatever the reason may be it really doesn't matter. I'm sure we can all agree that no Miki is a good thing.

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Now before I get too ahead of myself, what is this show about? Well as this is a review and not a plot summery I don't want to give away the whole story so I'll just give a basic outline of the overall plot. Far in the future under a new calendar system so we don't know what year it really is set in (well apart from the bit when Haruka says she is born in 1991 meaning it clearly takes place in 2007, but we'll just ignore that shall we) we learn that 107 years ago the moon was destroyed somehow and as a result bits of moon fell to Earth and caused massive damage killing a quarter of the Earth's population. These bits of moon, known as Drops, have been falling to Earth ever since. To avoid further damage the nations of the Earth found solutions to destroy them, almost all of which involve missiles. However, always having to be the special exception, Japan's solution is to send up mechs to punch them into little bits that will burn up in the Earth's atmosphere. These mechs are known as iDOLs and their pilots are known as Masters and thus they are iDOLMASTERs! Yes, the whole concept of the show is based on a pun of the title. Thank you Sunrise!

So yes, this is iDOLM@STER meets mechs, but like I've said before and hopefully you've understood, this show really doesn't focus too much on the iDOLM@STER concept. So much so you wonder if this show was written without the iDOLM@STERs in mind and they were later kind of forced into the plot. OK, not quite true, Haruka initially got involved in this because she thought she was auditioning for an idol role rather than an iDOL role (and this is why letter case is important) so the aspect of wanting to be an idol is kept. Also one of the iM@S gals is amazingly an actual idol in this show, and surprisingly it is Yayoi, though even here the show writers couldn't help but fiddle with things (see the Through the Looking-Glossia for more details). But that is still very much all in episode one and they could have easily stuck that on to the beginning of a previously written story when they decided to stick the iDOLM@STER name on this.

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But let us stop with these negatives because we're just going to forget this isn't really an iM@S show because if we want that we can just watch the iDOLM@STER anime. This is a mech show with idols and we love it. But there is something important I must tell you. Firstly, let me just explain that iDOLs and their Master have to develop a bond to work which is why not just anyone can pilot them hence the audition I mentioned earlier. Now lets say this deep bond goes a bit further, like say romantic feelings... yes... what I'm implying here is mech x girl romance ladies and gentlemen. Xenoglossia asks the deep question of whether a girl can truly love a robot. Now I don't really want to say anymore since I feel even that was a bit too much to reveal, after all I want you to see this show as spoiler free as possible, but you have to admit your average mech show doesn't deal with story lines quite like that. I know I'm right in thinking that you really want answers now after that little tease so now you have no choice but to watch it!

NUDITY! Just making sure you're still with us. Yes, one of the odd things about this show is the nudity. Now we joke about idols and purity, but this show is about giving a new side to idols, and as I warned at the beginning of this review, it'll likely be a side you don't want to see since pretty much all the purity is thrown out the window. So I have a hunch the writers were inserting all this nudity to kind of emphasise that this isn't quite the iM@S you know and love. There's lots of it, in fact the OP literally starts with it and the ED almost solely consists of it. (Thought I should add that the first OP song is actually very good) OK, it's not full frontal nudity, mostly "tastefully" done back shots and whatnot with the naughty parts carefully covered up, but considering the other iM@S show doesn't even go as far as pantie shots it's certainly quite a contrast.

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But since we're on the subject of looks, lets me discuss briefly the look of the show. Animation wise it's pretty good, solid with no obvious cases of dodgy animation. While I would find it hard to say whether I prefer the art style to A1's take on series, since the tone is very different, I will say I do appreciate that Haruka's forehead does stay more consistent than in The iDOLM@STER. But if push came to shove I'd lean towards A1 because of a certain set of characters looking rather more derpy compared to their A1 designs (which, of course, are closer to the originals I should add). There is CG in the shows as I know that's a major concern for some, but it's used for the mechs, and even then it's not used all the time, mostly depending on how much action there is, which is understandable. Basically, it's not gonna kill you to see it. However the mechs themselves are rather plain. There's nothing really that memorable about them. Also the pilot outfits are a bit odd. It's the sleeves really, they have this odd twisted look to them and they also wrap around the middle finger in an odd way. But that's just a little niggle that's easy to overlook in the grand scope of things.

So overall I get that back in 2007 this may have been seen as a travesty but like a fine wine it has improved with age. So don't let those old hangups you've heard put you off watching this show. Tune in and enjoy the iM@S in a unique setting with a nonsensical story. Wait, ignore what I just said about the story!

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This question goes to anyone familiar with the Barakamon graphical novel; did they skip or went too fast over much content of its chapters on this second episode? Because it feels like part of a more clear context was lacking in the delivery of certain moments, like in Tama's 'yaoi goggles' scene! :)

Hmm, I must have missed the announcement for this.
It was announced around this past mid-December, and now this close to its premiere we even have the habitual Mark Schilling's first review in English (yes, I know, the same Mr. Schilling that gave 4 ½ stars to Howl's Moving Castle but 3 ½ to The Wind Rises). This movie is either way getting glowing reviews from practically every Japanese film critic anyway!
 
This question goes to anyone familiar with the Barakamon graphical novel; did they skip or went too fast over much content of its chapters on this second episode? Because it feels like part of a more clear context was lacking in the delivery of certain moments, like in Tama's 'yaoi goggles' scene! :)

I'm not familiar with the manga, but that is indeed what I have heard from manga readers, that Barakamon episode 2 rushed through too much manga content without giving it time to properly breathe. That's probably why I didn't like the episode.
 
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