AquaWateria
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Wow, I have trouble keeping up with the posts. But
Did you just say Date A Live is a good harem? I punch you in the ovaris!
ZachDeKoromaru
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Date A Live S1 is fun while S2 was bad, real bad!
R_thanatos
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Oh on the story discussion , you're summarising too much , that's not a harem anime problem , just an anime problem
"Luffy was just a kid untill he almost got eaten by a giant monster"
"Gon was enjoying life in his forest until he met Kite"
"ichigo was a normal student until he met a shinigami"
and you can go on.
The "until" is a story subplot that is supposed to immerse the reader/viewer into the world by making you and the character discover it .It's necessary since you're changing the character POV so you can introduce and explain more stuff
"madoka was just a normal high school student untill she met that magical creature"
and i could go on and on ....
normal character ==> decisive set of event ==> start of the new journey, new experience often the start of the show itself.
If you want to get that reductive, every genre can be reduced to a sentence describing the basic framework of said genre. It's what's in the details and the execution.
For as much as the "cute girls doing cute things" genre is equally a scapegoat, even among the various Kirara series, there's differences with everything. K-ON! and Yuyushiki have different types of humor, and GochiUsa doesn't attempt to evoke feelings in quite the same way as A Channel.
Certain genres get a bad rap that makes it so much harder for them to be "good". Like with that "Worthwhile Anime" image that keeps floating around, while I'm glad that Azumanga gives it some representation, I wonder why it's the only one on there while other genres get multiple representations. I know that the Western fanbase's tastes will never be the same as Japan, but it shouldn't write off whole genres either.
Fixed.
I'm pretty sure I'm the only one in the world that liked that long and forgotten show.
SliceSabre
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Its probably my favorite harem or right up there.
Psycho_Mantis
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Why the flip are there nearly 200 episodes.....what is this shounen.
R_thanatos
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I enjoy DATE A LIVE , i really do ..but even i cannot say it's a good harem.
Samurai girls and samurai bride have convulted stories , almost no character develloppement
Mineakira Did NOTHING in the entirety of S2, useless
It's a bad harem anime.
Badass blonde twins and Kurumi make that show amazing, I will fight you
Yes, it is
But the character is that way because of the function of the story. Being a generally passive nice guy is (usually) one of the building blocks of the genre, and the attention is supposed to be on the girls. This is not a bad thing.
SliceSabre
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I forgot Samurai Girls even had an MC at time the girls outshine him so much.
Admiral Woofington
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Unfortunately harems aren't my forte. Romantic/slice of life comedies though, come to me my pretty. Come to meeeeeeeeeee
Mhm, if I read the responses. I didn't like Date A Live or TWGOK, I finished the first season of both and decided to not look the sequels. I just find it irritating to watch guys move from one girl to anther. I know bot were basically parodying these things, but I didn't like it at all. My girl Origami had so much to suffer ;___;
Maybe I am just not cut out for Harem. Should stay with my sugarcoated shoujo.
Maybe I am just not cut out for Harem. Should stay with my sugarcoated shoujo.
Kurumi was A-ok. In fact most characters were. But that's the problem with harem and girls.
it is shounen, yes
Aren't those almost entirely the same genre?
yes.
Its more story based and doesnt follow the usual formula. But in a way it is kind of still one so maybe its just changing the definition of one.
I am disappointed
Admiral Woofington
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Well... yes I guess. But I wouldn't want to pair them up unnecessarily.
Or it's a broad definition that can cover all kinds of storytelling. Episodic, serialized, the whole gamut, since the definition is more about the relationships of the characters.
If "harem" stopped having this stigma of "inherently bad" attached to it, fandom discussion would be a lot easier. This is why I try to refer to them as romantic comedies, since at least people don't automatically pass value judgment on that.
not quite but Kurumi is the best thing coming from it.
Pretty much what I was saying.
SliceSabre
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I love you.
AquaWateria
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I mean the end to the series was suprising. I gotta say the author had guts to choose a girl for the MC instead of leaving it open.
nintendoman58
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Well to be fair, good story descriptions only give you the bare minimum. Madoka tells you that she has a magical encounter and a new story of magical girls is starting. That's it.
Harem anime plot descriptions always tell you what to expect. Boy gets roped into world where he gets surrounded by girls who want him.
There's just barely any subtlety to them is what I was getting at.
SliceSabre
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You are now on my shit list.
Psycho_Mantis
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Well that was unexpected.
Watched a bit of the first episode. Its very funny, I like the characters as well. There's nudity though. Its not an ecchi right? I'm okay with it every now and then but if its like TLR then ehhhhhhh
nudity isn't particularly prevalent, it's certainly nothing like TLR
Save 'N Quit
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Dedication Through Light
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Yu-Gi-Oh! ARC-V Episode 14
Entermate Friendonkey was a good one as well as Entermate Spiked Eagle
Alright duel I suppose the dancing moment with the duel monster's was funny for the comedy bit.
In terms of plot
Entermate Friendonkey was a good one as well as Entermate Spiked Eagle
and it became a phoenix, best moment in the series, best mythological creature ever
Alright duel I suppose the dancing moment with the duel monster's was funny for the comedy bit.
In terms of plot
I hope Sora comes back fast
I dunno. The Berserk movies were unnecessary at best. Part of the problem is, as a stand-alone viewing experience the movies fail to properly portray Griffith's story arc and the many themes behind it. You need build up for that. You need time... and you need to understand his history, motivations, and his ambitions, for his story to come to an impactful and meaningful end. Griffith is a pillar with a chip at the base. I knew nothing about Berserk going in when I watched it for the first time last year. It was marvelous... but you don't get there by condensing such a story to some three or four hours. As a companion piece to the series the movies add nothing, and expands on nothing that the series hadn't already covered. Let me subject myself to several hours of the same exact tale with with less feeling and incredulous pacing. Let's also make it CG, awkwardly animated, and give it an inferior score. Yeah no. But the close-ups of Griffith's beautiful face were super bishounen. So you know my significant other was begging to start the next movie... Jesus, if only I knew back then what I do now...
AquaWateria
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What is this. I mean the series does have it's flaws, but it is not dirt worst. And a girl actually wins at the end.
SliceSabre
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She's so forgettable, but I did enjoy her when she was on screen.
2nd best, but she lacks the impact Kurumi brings on screen.
ThreePiMatt
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Discussion of best harem and not a single mention of Oreimo S2.
SliceSabre
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You just had to come in here and just piss all over our corn flakes, huh?
I am disappointed
I'm disappointed that Ken Akamatsu is a hack too.
firehawk12
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You could say that Sekai just couldn't make the cut.
Eh, having just watched an MTV teen show (not to mention shows like Skins), it's really on anime that's afraid of teen sex.
I don't know if being a horny virgin is better than being an oblivious virgin though.
They can have sexual desires - real ones - without it being all about sex. Having a horndog protagonist who wants to peak at girls bathing at the onsen but can't move past holding hands with a girl doesn't really solve anything.
I mean, that robot angel harem show has the guy turn into water so he can grope girls in a swimming pool. He is unrepentantly male with his sexual desire. Yet he has a harem of robot angels that he never once considers having sex with, let alone his hapless childhood friend who is forever alone.
Googling it, I remember watching a few episodes. I can't remember it really doing anything different in the whole pervert protag genre.
Well, consensual poly-amorous relationships apparently do work (beyond the whole "monogamish" concept that Dan Savage invented), but I don't think I've seen an anime go with the Mormon ending. lol
Outside of School Days, no other lead actually goes for it in that way though. All the others are just empty shirts pretending to be more than they are.
These are harems alright.
Maybe for some. I certainly don't though. But then I like harem shows. Whereas tags like shounen has me passing negative value judgements.
R_thanatos
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It's a problem with show like date a live that are made only for the characters...
you don't enjoy the show for how good his story is ..
And besides DATE A LIVE was doomed to be on this disapointing route the moment where the girls were just conquests
Not sure i agree on the hidden meaning.
I mean it's harem so by definition girls ( or boys ) are going to surrond the MC , it's part of the setup...The key point should be " why are they surronding the MC ? "
Some anime are better at this than others because you have to sell the premise and a good premise ( or a well executed premise ) can change one perception and enjoyment of a title.
firehawk12
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That does a disservice to real romcoms though.
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