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[s_mirage]

So...is this happening more often recently, or just being covered heavier?

Smart phones. They're dropping themselves in it more by constantly having the ability to take and distribute photos.

 

[Bubbavelli]

The last thread like this I got a two week ban

 

[CountAntonius]

An interesting bit about all this is not that it is happening more than before(happened in my highscool) but thanks to cellphone camera's and social media(and a teenagers desire to brag) these affais are brought to light more often.

Edit: And beaten...

 

[Dusk Soldier]

Luckily we have online dating now and it's becoming an accepted thing. If you're in NYC for instance, pretty much everyone in their 20s is on either Tinder or okcupid

That was more of a tongue and cheek response.

Nobody is going to limit themselves to the 6-month window surrounding their birthday. Even with the power of online dating it's still pretty hard.

 

[TAJ]

Pretty much over. Everyone gets fingerprinted prior to working at a school (I'm speaking about Texas but I think it's standard everywhere). They see what pops up, a crime of "low moral character" or something like that can be used to dismiss you from working at a school. Something like drunk driving or theft. These women are not going to be allowed on any school grounds unless they have kids there.

As for other countries, dunno.

Doesn't even have to be a crime, just anything parents might get upset about. (like porn or even just nudes) Which will soon be everything.

 

[loaf of bread]

I have 2 serious questions.

1, if someone underage seduces someone overage into having sex is it still rape? That doesn't really make sense to me. Does that mean the kid rapes himself?

2, what happens if someone underage rapes someone overage? Is it like a double rape?

 

[royalan]

I have 2 serious questions.

1, if someone underage seduces someone overage into having sex is it still rape? That doesn't really make sense to me. Does that mean the kid rapes himself?

2, what happens if someone underage rapes someone overage? Is it like a double rape?

1) Statutory rape? Absolutely.

2) It's just rape.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fQmTw85cNk

 

[Kastrioti]

Downey and Pasadena. Damn, I missed out when I was in high school.

 

[CarpeDeezNutz]

Doesn't even have to be a crime, just anything parents might get upset about. (like porn or even just nudes) Which will soon be everything.

Yeah that's true, I was thinking years ago, social media now makes it real easy to find out about all your past history. I can remember how people getting caught lying about taking time off from work but found posting party pics the same day being new.

 

[Sàmban]

I had sex with my high school teacher and I was 17 at the time. I wasn't stupid enough to tell people about it. I thought it was awesome back then, but as an adult now it was actually kind of a shitty thing to do. She had a boyfriend or something close to that.

 

[CountAntonius]

I have 2 serious questions.

1, if someone underage seduces someone overage into having sex is it still rape? That doesn't really make sense to me. Does that mean the kid rapes himself?

2, what happens if someone underage rapes someone overage? Is it like a double rape?

When seduced you still make the choice. If an underaged person rapes someone older pretty sure statutory rape doesn't apply cause it was forced.

 

[see5harp]

I had sex with my high school teacher. I wasn't stupid enough to tell people about it. I thought it was awesome back then, but as an adult now it was actually kind of a shitty thing to do. She had a boyfriend or something close to that.

You were a victim of rape. That's fucked up man.

 

[Camp Lo]

lol double rape

 

[Henchmen21]

I think 24 year olds and freshly graduated teachers should be sent to Elementary schools before going to high school aged kids. Would help so much taking these women away from Students in their age group.

Or have a "you will go to jail!" sort of scared straight orientation whenever you hire a teacher on.

I do notice when these stories come out that it's usually a female teacher in their early 20's that end up being the perpetrators. It's funny cause growing up I don't remember any of my teachers being anywhere close to their 20's. Most were 40 or above.

 

[CarpeDeezNutz]

I do notice when these stories come out that it's usually a female teacher in their early 20's that end up being the perpetrators. It's funny cause growing up I don't remember any of my teachers being anywhere close to their 20's. Most were 40 or above.

Well, on gaf there seems to be mostly female teacher and male student being posted, but when I check out the local Fox News fb page it's male teacher and female student.

 

[Sàmban]

You were a victim of rape. That's fucked up man.

I guess so. I don't know if I consider myself a victim because I was never really "forced" I guess. She was good looking and I had a crush on her so I don't really know how I feel about it till this day. I'm not traumatized or anything, but it slowly became an uncomfortable experience. I'm not sure why I went on with it when I knew I didn't have to.

 

[Solaire of Astora]

Stupid question, but if their convicted are their careers over? Or could they go teach in other countries?

Don't tell me you're one of those people who thinks immigration is as simple as landing in a country with your US passport and telling the nice immigration officer that you'd like to stay?

Seriously, I see this from time to time. But no. In order to teach overseas, she'd have to gain a work permit for whatever country she wanted to go to, and that will involve a background check. Plus, her teaching qualifications may not be recognized depending on the country.

 

[Valhelm]

So...is this happening more often recently, or just being covered heavier?

I think it's possible that boys face less pressure to keep these things to themselves.

 

[udiie]

I had sex with my high school teacher and I was 17 at the time. I wasn't stupid enough to tell people about it. I thought it was awesome back then, but as an adult now it was actually kind of a shitty thing to do. She had a boyfriend or something close to that.

yo. wtf.

 

[Holy_Chic]

the last thread was weird because everyone kept saying the boy was the 'victim', when i think it turned out he was bragging about it?

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

the last thread was weird because everyone kept saying the boy was the 'victim', when i think it turned out he was bragging about it?

Laws

 

[Punchy4486]

I guess so. I don't know if I consider myself a victim because I was never really "forced" I guess. She was good looking and I had a crush on her so I don't really know how I feel about it till this day. I'm not traumatized or anything, but it slowly became an uncomfortable experience. I'm not sure why I went on with it when I knew I didn't have to.

It seems like you were taken advantage of to an extent.

 

[Kevtones]

I live in Pasadena. Maybe I can find her on Tinder

 

[MikeBreezy92]

Ya know the whole 16, 17 year old having consensual sex with teachers really doesn't disturb me as much as, say, a 12 or 13 year old. I think at that point(16/17) you're pretty much an adult. Not much will change in the span of 1-2 years generally speaking.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

So...is this happening more often recently, or just being covered heavier?

Social media + Sexting = a lot more people get caught red handed. Kids don't have the emotional maturity keep dl shit dl...because they're kids.

I still don't see why criminal charges should be filed in cases where the student is clearly the pursuer. Loss of job and teaching credentials should be punishment enough.

 

[Deleted member 102481]

I banged my high school teacher when I was in high school. I wasn't stupid enough to tell people though. We still cool though I snapchat her my dick from time to time

 

[jadedm17]

Ya know the whole 16, 17 year old having consensual sex with teachers really doesn't disturb me as much as, say, a 12 or 13 year old. I think at that point(16/17) you're pretty much an adult. Not much will change in the span of 1-2 years generally speaking.

The line needs to be somewhere legally speaking. Morally there's grey, legally it's black and white.
That said : Personally I didn't start my path to who I'd be as an adult until 18; Rest is just a blur. Seems good to me to say 18

 

[Henchmen21]

Ya know the whole 16, 17 year old having consensual sex with teachers really doesn't disturb me as much as, say, a 12 or 13 year old. I think at that point(16/17) you're pretty much an adult. Not much will change in the span of 1-2 years generally speaking.

It's weird isn't it. We say that 16 years old is old enough to get behind the wheel of a car but not mature enough for sex. This whole idea that you're "innocent" at that age (even though most kids that age have seen more porn than most adults especially now with easy access of the internet) is why we have such a fucked up sex education here in the US.

 

[-COOLIO-]

You were a victim of rape. That's fucked up man.

if he feels generally okay about the experience then it's not like we have to go out of our way to make him see it in a negative light. a couple months and it wouldn't have been rape anyway.

 

[MikeBreezy92]

The line needs to be somewhere legally speaking. Morally there's grey, legally it's black and white.
That said : Personally I didn't start my path to who I'd be as an adult until 18; Rest is just a blur. Seems good to me to say 18

That I do agree with I just don't it as reprehensible as some might because I do not see them as just kids at that point. Just mini-adults lol.

 

[-COOLIO-]

I banged my high school teacher when I was in high school. I wasn't stupid enough to tell people though. We still cool though I snapchat her my dick from time to time

this is apparently a lot more common than i thought.

 

[The Awesomest]

Or have a "you will go to jail!" sort of scared straight orientation whenever you hire a teacher on.

We do. At my student teaching orientation they told us straight up, "Oh btw don't have sex with your students."

 

[freddy]

Are there any stats around for how many of these teachers that abuse kids are male/female? Seems like the ones I see here are women but that could just be because it's controversial.

Edit: Seems like far less cases are reported with women as the abusers.

 

[Lace]

I think people need to ignore the age/gender aspect and focus on the fact that teachers are in a position of power. Its easy to disregard any sexual advances by a teacher as "hot" but there is a real opprotunity to abuse and rape a kid if it was acceptable. No different then a principle using his/her control to select a kid they want.

 

[ElyrionX]

So when the act was clearly premeditated by the teen, are people still going to argue that the teen was a victim of statutory rape?

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Ya know the whole 16, 17 year old having consensual sex with teachers really doesn't disturb me as much as, say, a 12 or 13 year old. I think at that point(16/17) you're pretty much an adult. Not much will change in the span of 1-2 years generally speaking.

the issue isn't just the age but the fact that these teachers are in a position of authority over the students, and if we just pass it off it will get really easily abused. You don't want people becoming teachers so that they can easily groom sex partners for themselves. That and the gender thing are why this is so frowned upon.

 

[MikeBreezy92]

So when the act was clearly premeditated by the teen, are people still going to argue that the teen was a victim of statutory rape?

Dude its statutory because the the Teen is still a child by law. No matter who comes on to who.

the issue isn't just the age but the fact that these teachers are in a position of authority over the students, and if we just pass it off it will get really easily abused. You don't want people becoming teachers so that they can easily groom sex partners for themselves. That and the gender thing are why this is so frowned upon.

I was saying why it does not disturb me, I completely get why its illegal and why its wrong.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

So when the act was clearly premeditated by the teen, are people still going to argue that the teen was a victim of statutory rape?

I think it's overly simplistic to conflate statutory sex and rape.

 

[Little Nemo]

She looks like Amanda Seyfried. After so many of these incidents have happened, I can't believe teachers are continually stupid enough to either think they'll get away with it or maybe they just don't care?

 

[Bleepey]

Isn't this the first big no you learn about when becoming a teacher? Ruining your career early on like this to target your students will never make sense to me. Crazy.


You pretty much made your snide comment. It's nothing special either.

If it makes you feel any better, I could do much better but like i said, the last thread was a graveyard.

 

[Kaladin]

I can't believe some people in this thread are blaming the women. Sure they should have known better, and sure they shouldn't have done this. But in most of these cases it was the student who instigated the relationship. The main problem is these young teachers are teaching students close to their age. If you have teenage boys who are already sexually active, they're going to go after the hot young teacher, and the young teachers being inexperienced as they are let it happen too often. I kinda feel sorry for the teachers because the boys get no punishments and are seen as victims by most.

 

[RevDM]

According to court documents, Zehnder eventually sent him a nude photo via the social media app SnapChat. The student saved the picture on his phone and later distributed it to a handful of friends at the school.

Total bro lol

 

[acheron_xl]

Some people like to say that a 17 year old is practically an adult, but more and more it seems clear to me that 24 years old is still practically a child.

 

[ConstructMe]

Fucked up situation all round.

 

[The Bookerman]

My 18 year old cousin is dating her 40 year old teacher and it's fuckin odd. My uncle can't stand the sight of his face... But it's legal

 

[striferser]

Stupid question, but if their convicted are their careers over? Or could they go teach in other countries?

William James Vahey,
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/06/05/woes-mount-jis-with-20-teachers-due-be-deported.html

 

[Busty]

According to the student, Zehnder was the assistant cheer coach at the school and he was a member of the school's competition cheer squad.

*chortle*

Those are large spectacles.

..., all the better to see you with my dear.

 

[Kilrogg]

I'm a bit puzzled at all the accusations thrown around. I mean, yeah, she's the teacher, normally it's a risky thing to have a relationship with a student (especially if they're not legal), and she was dumb for sending the kid a nude pic, but :

According to the student, Zehnder was the assistant cheer coach at the school and he was a member of the school's competition cheer squad. He told officers with the district's police department that the relationship began when he lost his cellphone and used the teacher's phone to locate his. He saved Zehnder's phone numbers and they began texting.

First, it doesn't say who initiated the texting, so it's hard to talk about rape. The way this happened, I'm thinking the kid is the one who started to hit on the teacher (why save her number otherwise?). But again, nothing sure. What's the age of consent in the US anyway?

Second...

According to court documents, Zehnder eventually sent him a nude photo via the social media app SnapChat. The student saved the picture on his phone and later distributed it to a handful of friends at the school.

[...]

"This behavior will not be tolerated in Pasadena ISD. Our primary concern is to provide a safe learning environment for our students. When an educator violates the trust of a student, it makes it difficult for the majority of teachers who genuinely care for the safety and well-being of students," wrote Ivy-Sims.

(emphasis mine)

... Let me get this straight:
- Teacher sends pic of her to student over temporary app.
- Said student saves pic and shares it with friends.
- School accuses teacher of violating trust of student

... Huh? The student is the one who violated the trust of the teacher, not the other way around! Besides, having a relationship with a student has nothing to do with safety and trust, unless it was really a rape/forceful relationship, which we don't know. What a poorly thought-out statement.

 

[Aselith]

I'm a bit puzzled at all the accusations thrown around. I mean, yeah, she's the teacher, normally it's a risky thing to have a relationship with a student (especially if they're not legal), and she was dumb for sending the kid a nude pic, but :


First, it doesn't say who initiated the texting, so it's hard to talk about rape. The way this happened, I'm thinking the kid is the one who started to hit on the teacher (why save her number otherwise?). But again, nothing sure. What's the age of consent in the US anyway?

Second...



(emphasis mine)

... Let me get this straight:
- Teacher sends pic of her to student over temporary app.
- Said student saves pic and shares it with friends.
- School accuses teacher of violating trust of student

... Huh? The student is the one who violated the trust of the teacher, not the other way around! Besides, having a relationship with a student has nothing to do with safety and trust, unless it was really a rape/forceful relationship, which we don't know. What a poorly thought-out statement.

As an authority figure in his life you have a responsibility to say no regardless of what he does.