Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U Thread 5: Yarning for Yoshi
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Freezie KO
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DarkBro
CoD is a great series. Multiplayer is pure gameplay with solid gunplay. Don't hate.
HatsuneMiku
Neo Member
Ganondorf, playing tennis with his foes since 1998.
StreetsAhead
Member
Yeah, we wouldn't want to be the type of person who hates on games with pure gameplay in the multiplayer and solid platforming.
Since Agahnim is Ganon's alter-ego (ergo Ganondorf's) technically it would be since 1991.
EDIT: Ultra hivemind
Freezie KO
Banned
Benzychenz
Member
Gonna be so disappointed if Ganondorf stays a Captain Falcon clone.
I don't dislike Call of Duty, but I don't even play it. It's one of the few popular series I never played enough to form an opinion on.
The new mascot of Dark Souls, everyone.
HatsuneMiku
Neo Member
User 73706
Banned
So, let me preface this little anecdote with two things:
1) I do not expect K. Rool to become playable in SSB4, and
2) I do not know shit about the DK universe. Anyways, time to make the best of a bad situation. Let me paint a picture for you.
The scene opens up with a view of a big, Swiss Family Robinson-styled DK manor where some of the Kongs live. A simple, upbeat tribal drum plays in the distance. It's morning at the Kong residence, and a few of them are getting ready for their daily routines. Dixie does her hair, Cranky puts in his dentures, etc. At some point, there's a close-up of photos of DK and Diddy punching out Zelda, Mega Man, etc. - signifying that they've moved out and gone on to bigger and better things.
At the end of their abridged morning routines - perhaps with some banana pancakes to accomodate the situation, or maybe they've got a googly-eyed penguin stowed away in their fridge after their recent TF exploits - just out the window, the mail truck (Mail Mount? Rhino with a Smash logo painted on it? idonfugginkno) delivers some promising stuff. Excitedly, Cranky and Dixie head outside to check the mail - their Flintstones-styled primitive mailbox is just across the street, their big jungle home built on the coast of a neighboring lake or sea.
The two pull out Smash envelopes, enthralled at the prospect, smiling to one another - and then there's a faint beat that fades in. Suddenly, K. Rool swoops in, making an arc along the coast swinging from a rope off his pirate ship, and snatches up both letters - and Cranky's cane! Dixie has Cranky slung over her shoulder to balance him - and Cranky shakes his fist at the now-distant ship in rage!
The camera switches to a modernized K. Rool - a conglomerate of his past incarnations, he's received some slight changes to his proportions. He looks slightly more in shape, but has more of a gut; he's got the jacket of his pirate appearance as well as the hat, in addition to a bunch of ridiculous golden armor such as his chestpiece. He looks something like a gangster or mobster kingpin now; given Smash takes place in a largely-refined, "the after years" sort of world, this is an alternate variant of K. Rool where he hit it off big and reaped the spoils. He's covered in bling like gold chains, a diamond ring or two, etc. He motions to his crew, raising the Smash tickets and cane up in the air, and they all cheer! He's secured himself a spot.
"One last touch..." he thinks to himself, pocketing the Smash admissions. He calls forth a grizzled crocodile crewman forward with a grunt or a yell; a perfect mate for skullduggery. He's got an eyepatch, a hooked hand, maybe even a beard. Perhaps too perfect! K. Rool knocks him overboard and his hook flies briefly into the air before K. Rool snatches it up and fastens it to Cranky's cane - a perfect ranged weapon for an otherwise close-quarters fighter.
Cut to a parking lot-style area where vehicles from various Nintendo franchises are parked. Samus's gunship, Little Mac's bike, a walker from the Mega Man franchise, etc. K. Rool's ship is grounded with a path of destroyed earth torn all the way to the horizon, emphasizing just how ridiculous his methods are.
K. Rool walks up to a Smash-stylized, almost DMV-looking building where a few Nintendo rejects are having a not-quite-smoke break to brood; Waluigi, Soda Popinski, a really screwed-up custom Mii, etc. Maybe even pan over revealing Mother Brain's sitting out there too.
There's a brief line where obviously-accepted veterans like Mario and Kirby are making it into Smash through a bastardized legal process. A few characters give K. Rool a "who the hell invited him to the party?" look. He ignores them and proudly strides over to the acceptance desk, pushing a veteran (maybe Marth) out of the way. There's a simple sign up that says something to the effect of "ADMISSION: 1 SMASH TICKET."
The receptionist, hopefully someone ridiculous like the Nintendoland guide or Master Hand gives K. Rool a "wtf?" look and double-checks their list. They then poshly take out a marker, crossing out the "1" on the SMASH TICKET sign and write "2."
K. Rool pulls out both the stolen Smash envelopes and lets out a pirate-like cackle before walking down the hall into smashdom, knocking over a small Smash confirmee (say, Pikachu) and stealing one of Link's rupees along the way. As K. Rool walks in, this begins to play.
KING K. ROOL
Cranks it up a notch!
I'm not entirely sure how he'd play, but I imagine it'd be a mix of overly pragmatic, Dick Dastardly-style attacks like sucker punches or eye-poking in addition to legitimately threatening combos. For example, he could have a "swingin'" mechanic similar to Captain Falcon's Brawl jab on a larger scale where he starts out with slow, chill swings, but progressively "finds his groove" and works them into way more rapid barrages.
1) I do not expect K. Rool to become playable in SSB4, and
2) I do not know shit about the DK universe. Anyways, time to make the best of a bad situation. Let me paint a picture for you.
The scene opens up with a view of a big, Swiss Family Robinson-styled DK manor where some of the Kongs live. A simple, upbeat tribal drum plays in the distance. It's morning at the Kong residence, and a few of them are getting ready for their daily routines. Dixie does her hair, Cranky puts in his dentures, etc. At some point, there's a close-up of photos of DK and Diddy punching out Zelda, Mega Man, etc. - signifying that they've moved out and gone on to bigger and better things.
At the end of their abridged morning routines - perhaps with some banana pancakes to accomodate the situation, or maybe they've got a googly-eyed penguin stowed away in their fridge after their recent TF exploits - just out the window, the mail truck (Mail Mount? Rhino with a Smash logo painted on it? idonfugginkno) delivers some promising stuff. Excitedly, Cranky and Dixie head outside to check the mail - their Flintstones-styled primitive mailbox is just across the street, their big jungle home built on the coast of a neighboring lake or sea.
The two pull out Smash envelopes, enthralled at the prospect, smiling to one another - and then there's a faint beat that fades in. Suddenly, K. Rool swoops in, making an arc along the coast swinging from a rope off his pirate ship, and snatches up both letters - and Cranky's cane! Dixie has Cranky slung over her shoulder to balance him - and Cranky shakes his fist at the now-distant ship in rage!
The camera switches to a modernized K. Rool - a conglomerate of his past incarnations, he's received some slight changes to his proportions. He looks slightly more in shape, but has more of a gut; he's got the jacket of his pirate appearance as well as the hat, in addition to a bunch of ridiculous golden armor such as his chestpiece. He looks something like a gangster or mobster kingpin now; given Smash takes place in a largely-refined, "the after years" sort of world, this is an alternate variant of K. Rool where he hit it off big and reaped the spoils. He's covered in bling like gold chains, a diamond ring or two, etc. He motions to his crew, raising the Smash tickets and cane up in the air, and they all cheer! He's secured himself a spot.
"One last touch..." he thinks to himself, pocketing the Smash admissions. He calls forth a grizzled crocodile crewman forward with a grunt or a yell; a perfect mate for skullduggery. He's got an eyepatch, a hooked hand, maybe even a beard. Perhaps too perfect! K. Rool knocks him overboard and his hook flies briefly into the air before K. Rool snatches it up and fastens it to Cranky's cane - a perfect ranged weapon for an otherwise close-quarters fighter.
Cut to a parking lot-style area where vehicles from various Nintendo franchises are parked. Samus's gunship, Little Mac's bike, a walker from the Mega Man franchise, etc. K. Rool's ship is grounded with a path of destroyed earth torn all the way to the horizon, emphasizing just how ridiculous his methods are.
K. Rool walks up to a Smash-stylized, almost DMV-looking building where a few Nintendo rejects are having a not-quite-smoke break to brood; Waluigi, Soda Popinski, a really screwed-up custom Mii, etc. Maybe even pan over revealing Mother Brain's sitting out there too.
There's a brief line where obviously-accepted veterans like Mario and Kirby are making it into Smash through a bastardized legal process. A few characters give K. Rool a "who the hell invited him to the party?" look. He ignores them and proudly strides over to the acceptance desk, pushing a veteran (maybe Marth) out of the way. There's a simple sign up that says something to the effect of "ADMISSION: 1 SMASH TICKET."
The receptionist, hopefully someone ridiculous like the Nintendoland guide or Master Hand gives K. Rool a "wtf?" look and double-checks their list. They then poshly take out a marker, crossing out the "1" on the SMASH TICKET sign and write "2."
K. Rool pulls out both the stolen Smash envelopes and lets out a pirate-like cackle before walking down the hall into smashdom, knocking over a small Smash confirmee (say, Pikachu) and stealing one of Link's rupees along the way. As K. Rool walks in, this begins to play.
KING K. ROOL
Cranks it up a notch!
I'm not entirely sure how he'd play, but I imagine it'd be a mix of overly pragmatic, Dick Dastardly-style attacks like sucker punches or eye-poking in addition to legitimately threatening combos. For example, he could have a "swingin'" mechanic similar to Captain Falcon's Brawl jab on a larger scale where he starts out with slow, chill swings, but progressively "finds his groove" and works them into way more rapid barrages.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
theprodigy
Member
This was fun. Now I'm imagining how the hypothetical trailers for other characters would play out.
So, simple idea for an extremely useful utility in Ganondorf's arsenal: let him have low-grade projectile deflection at the peak of his recovery. Gives him a little more use of magic and prevents him from getting roflstomped right off the bat by some ranged characters. Source:
This would be awesome if they could make it work. Ganon needs a projectile, dude was booty sweat in Brawl.
I've had this idea and I stick to it:
Ganondorf gets an original moveset.
Hades gets his old.
It would work so well.
Benzychenz
Member
I'd be even more disappointed if Hades was a Captain Falcon clone.
Hello guys, this is me playing Project M Online(first time) against some good guy from Allisbrawl! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57uB2p-kxH8
If you want to play with me, send me a PM! Getting ready for Smash WiiU/3DS
If you want to play with me, send me a PM! Getting ready for Smash WiiU/3DS
I'm a Ganondorf main and Hades is my most wanted newcomer. It'd be a dream come true.
Wasn't Ganon also Sakurai's main in Melee?
fredrancour
Member
: How do i sword?
Forget swords, I need the light ball thing. The thing that you bounce back and forth at him. That thing's been in so many Zeldas.
Also need pig ganon for that Trident action.
Pretty much, lol.
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
Hello guys, this is me playing Project M Online(first time) against some good guy from Allisbrawl! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57uB2p-kxH8
If you want to play with me, send me a PM! Getting ready for Smash WiiU/3DS
Half of your posts are just plugs for your YouTube channel. It's kinda weird.
This might sound like heresy to a lot of people, but I kind of would rather see Hades as a background element/stage hazard, or maybe even as the stage himself. cracking wise and commenting on the different characters participating in the fight.
Beelzebufo
Banned
I don't know about pig Ganon (outside of a final smash or separate character... Or both a la ZSS), but best case scenario for me is getting a Melee-like Ganondorf with one of his specials changed to the light ball. You can even get rid of Warlock punch if you have too.
I don't think giving it to Hades is a good idea, it's almost as bad as giving it to Black Shadow.
I really wanna play against gafers to see if they actually know about smash, so i put my channel and expect a challenger to arise
fredrancour
Member
I was thinking new character, yeah. I think Pig Ganon is ahead of even Issac, wonder red, and an AW rep in my list of dream characters that aren't happening.
Dimitri LH
Member
And when ever someone tries to tell him that, he kinda just ignores it....im not even sure he reads whats posted in this thread and only comes to post his videos. But w/e as long as he does not cause trouble anyone. *shrugs*
EDIT: oh he actually responded. Well then.
I really wanna play against gafers to see if they actually know about smash, so i put my channel and expect a challenger to arise
You can find people in the IRC.
Heres one I just thought of.
Pit and Meta Knight are locked in intense combat, clashing their blades together as they move quickly through the environment. Backed up against the edge of a cliff, Meta Knight leaps off and flies away. Pit jumps after him, but after stalling in midair like a cartoon, he plummets down towards the earth, and a puff of dirt clouds up as he hits the ground. Pit, sitting on the ground and scuffed up, rubs the back of his neck looking clearly embarrassed. A baffled Meta Knight stares back at him and then disappears. Suddenly, a flash of light covers the screen. Palutena descends from above, walks towards Pit, and offers her hand.
Palutena lights things up!
Cue Palutena gameplay.
The post-logo CGI snippet shows Pit flying after Meta Knight in the sky as Palutena looks down from the heavens.
what's that? can you explain.
Kid Icarus is a featured game in NES Remix 2.
NES Remix 2 comes out in April.
We've gotten bimonthly directs for a while now, and the last two announced newcomers.
Believe.
The SmashGAF chatroom near the bottom of the OP post. Usually there are a few people that might be down for PM during the day.
Immaculate
Banned
March 23 is the 21st anniversary of Meta Knight's debut. He'll be revealed in two weeks, just in time for the April Direct trailer.
It's gonna happen!
(No it's not.)
Dimitri LH
Member
Ok
IRC is basically a chat website/program. There is a IRC group for SmashGAF.
http://mibbit.com/?channel=%23smashgaf&server=rizon.mibbit.org (it was in the OP)
Thats where we mostly hang and ask for Project M fights or just talk.
I am not sure if there is a Project M Community thread here on GAF so I cant give you a link for the Project M IRC. >.>;
EDIT: Beaten like Lucario on his reveal day on smash boards.
Chet Rippo
Member
So, simple idea for an extremely useful utility in Ganondorf's arsenal: let him have low-grade projectile deflection at the peak of his recovery. Gives him a little more use of magic and prevents him from getting roflstomped right off the bat by some ranged characters. Source:
If anything, I think Link's Spin attack should reflect projectiles. And maybe give Ganondorf a charge beam like attack..
theprodigy
Member
User 73706
Banned
Couple random thoughts / inquiries.
- Is there really any established DK lore beyond the big-name characters and the fact that they're typically in jungle-rooted settings or associated locations like volcanoes?
- What the hell kind of name is Arena Ferox? It's just "Wild Sand" in Latin.
I think it'd be interesting if Ganondorf kept his core heavy-hitting style at play, but used his magic to perplex or otherwise disorient enemies rather than using it in a direct full-on offensive manner. I mean, he's got the Triforce of Power. He's probably trying to capitalize on the fact that he has... well, power. Maybe where some of his moves exhibited gust-like "floatiness" that plagued enemies, allowing him to weaken fighters to Brawl-esque, floaty caricatures while he goes around curbstomping people.
- Is there really any established DK lore beyond the big-name characters and the fact that they're typically in jungle-rooted settings or associated locations like volcanoes?
- What the hell kind of name is Arena Ferox? It's just "Wild Sand" in Latin.
I think it'd be interesting if Ganondorf kept his core heavy-hitting style at play, but used his magic to perplex or otherwise disorient enemies rather than using it in a direct full-on offensive manner. I mean, he's got the Triforce of Power. He's probably trying to capitalize on the fact that he has... well, power. Maybe where some of his moves exhibited gust-like "floatiness" that plagued enemies, allowing him to weaken fighters to Brawl-esque, floaty caricatures while he goes around curbstomping people.
theprodigy
Member
HatsuneMiku
Neo Member
Would it be fair to counter with
How do I gun?
Captain Falcon is too manly to use his gun, it's just there for decoration.
Boomstick (Coffee Crazy)
Banned
I would love to see a rework of Ganondorf. He has always been my favorite character to play as, despite the fact that he is pretty objectively terrible competitively.
A rework of his down B and up B would be nice, and anything with the sword he has in TP would be fucking sick.
A rework of his down B and up B would be nice, and anything with the sword he has in TP would be fucking sick.
Brawl dorf is terrible. Melee dorf is actually decent.
I never want to see Ganondorf with swords unless they wholesale rip from Toon Ganondorf. I really love the idea behind the "tennis ball" projectile with each passing day. Maybe the longer its charged for, the larger it gets until it becomes that crazy scatter shot variant used in OoT. It'd also be cool if he got a falling shock wave/ground pound and the Pressure/Vortex thing he has going on before the fight as per this video. Also, why doesn't this guy float in Smash?
Fixing all of this would make him a really amazing character. He'd certainly scratch my "black mage" itch very well.
BassForever
Member
Give Ganondorf's current move set to Black Shadow or another F-Zero character, give Ganondorf a sword and a move set that fits his character BOOM everyone is happy