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Does anyone know any of the music that plays in the Pilotwings stage? I try to hear it but can't pick it out over Treehouse commentary or the din of the show floor. Really curious if they've included any PW64 tunes.
 
Does anyone know any of the music that plays in the Pilotwings stage? I try to hear it but can't pick it out over Treehouse commentary or the din of the show floor. Really curious if they've included any PW64 tunes.

It's an arrangement of this SNES theme. I'm sure we'll get some 64/Resort stuff too.
 
Does anyone know any of the music that plays in the Pilotwings stage? I try to hear it but can't pick it out over Treehouse commentary or the din of the show floor. Really curious if they've included any PW64 tunes.

Listening to it closely, it sounds like a remix of the music that plays when you fly the Light Plane in the original.
 
Totally random, I think it would be pretty cool to have the Clone Cherry from 3D World as an item. It stand a few steps from you and mimics your every move but except it would face the other way. It could absorb a bit of damage before it disappears into a puff of smoke or runs out.
 
[QUOTE="D";117931976]Totally random, I think it would be pretty cool to have the Clone Cherry from 3D World as an item. It stand a few steps from you and mimics your every move but except it would face the other way. It could absorb a bit of damage before it disappears into a puff of smoke or runs out.[/QUOTE]

That would be pretty awesome. It'd have to be exclusive to the Wii U version though.
 
She never shuts up, does nothing but piss and moan about everything the entire game, her only redeeming factors being her good VA and her genre savvy (which is also her only real characterization).

If Pit wasn't the worst character, she'd be nothing. Viridi, Hades and Phyrron (rip in peace) carry the game.
I don't recall her ever complaining, and all of the characters talk constantly. It's kind of the theme of the game...
 
Opinion respected ofcourse but......WHAT?!

I mean, I somewhat like her character, but I prefer Hades, Viridi, Dark Pit, Pit, Magnus, the forge god, lightning chariot master, thanatos, Pandora, PYRONN, etc. more

It's just a testament to how great of a cast Uprising has, when a character who in other games would be one of my favorites isn't
Only Medusa on the 1+ chapters list is worse imo
 
I don't recall her ever complaining, and all of the characters talk constantly. It's kind of the theme of the game...

It's a bit dissonant for me in that all the other factions have their own units running around doing stuff, but Palutena just sends Pit because... reasons. But no, she's got a faction she commands but instead of doing anything she just sits and moans in her temple about how all these awful things are befalling the human world and how it's her duty as a god to take care of everything but nope! Just Pit.

MEANWHILE, she's teasing and berating Pit every step of the way, offering vague support with various powers and items but ultimately not doing anything, and Pit still has unwavering devotion to her because... reasons.

Every supporting character is way, way more interesting in their actions and dialogue, backing up their lieutenants (who as far as I can tell, are supposed to be equivalently ranked with Pit?) far better... Palutena's just there.

Well, except for maybe Medusa. She might be worse.
 
Wolf wasn't a clone. If anything he's like an Akuma to Ryu. Similar but wholly different.

Thanks for this.

I just started playing a little bit more focused on "competitive" and this comparison killed my doubts hahaha.

Although I still wouldn't mind Wolf getting cut.

Does Fox = Ryu, Falco = Ken, Wolf = Akuma rule apply? I'm totally a noob so please take it easy on me senpai
 
I don't recall her ever complaining, and all of the characters talk constantly. It's kind of the theme of the game...

This. They banter and its comedy gold.

"Wait...why can't you see the way out of Pandora's lair if you have an all seeing eye of Palutena?"

"Its because of my slightly botched lasik surgery.

"..."
"ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!"

*You can positively hear Palutena trollfacing*

Game's banter was terrific. Honestly I didn't know that Nintendo could do dialogue heavy cast so wonderfully. Pretty much a triumph that they are the Nintendo folk known for not being silent and for actually being entertaining to listen to during flight unlike Star Fox and Slippy banter.
 
It's a bit dissonant for me in that all the other factions have their own units running around doing stuff, but Palutena just sends Pit because... reasons. But no, she's got a faction she commands but instead of doing anything she just sits and moans in her temple about how all these awful things are befalling the human world and how it's her duty as a god to take care of everything but nope! Just Pit.

MEANWHILE, she's teasing and berating Pit every step of the way, offering vague support with various powers and items but ultimately not doing anything, and Pit still has unwavering devotion to her because... reasons.

Every supporting character is way, way more interesting in their actions and dialogue, backing up their lieutenants (who as far as I can tell, are supposed to be equivalently ranked with Pit?) far better... Palutena's just there.

Well, except for maybe Medusa. She might be worse.
She makes it quite clear at several points that her own army is incompetent next to Pit. Pit is her star soldier, and as the Goddess of Light she has sworn to protect humanity. So when the other factions threaten mankind, she sends Pit to stop them.

As for her teasing and berating Pit, it never comes off as anything malign. She's very much an older sister figure to him... She likes to toy with him, sometimes at inopportune moments. But she -is- a goddess, and their ways can be peculiar, to say the least. :-)

Man, I adore Palutena. So happy to have her in Smash!
 
Don't ask. It'll only lead to pain. Even then, falco is more of a fox clone than wolf is.
I just wanna ask why cause i never understood why he was a "clone" when his moves work differently at angle and stuff. Wolf is much hard to get used to than fox.

Because shares moves stolen from Fox, all his b moves are basically Fox's, but obviously work diffrently. The only thing that's great about him is that all his attacks are his own.

But they work different, so thats why he is different.
 
She makes it quite clear at several points that her own army is incompetent next to Pit. Pit is her star soldier, and as the Goddess of Light she has sworn to protect humanity. So when the other factions threaten mankind, she sends Pit to stop them.

As for her teasing and berating Pit, it never comes off as anything malign. She's very much an older sister figure to him... She likes to toy with him, sometimes at inopportune moments. But she -is- a goddess, and their ways can be peculiar, to say the least. :-)

Man, I adore Palutena. So happy to have her in Smash!

Is that story told in Kid Icarus: Uprising?

Man I need to pick up this game!
 
She makes it quite clear at several points that her own army is incompetent next to Pit. Pit is her star soldier, and as the Goddess of Light she has sworn to protect humanity. So when the other factions threaten mankind, she sends Pit to stop them.

As for her teasing and berating Pit, it never comes off as anything malign. She's very much an older sister figure to him... She likes to toy with him, sometimes at inopportune moments. But she -is- a goddess, and their ways can be peculiar, to say the least. :-)

Man, I adore Palutena. So happy to have her in Smash!

I know none of it's malicious, it's just really jarring to see the rest of the universe having its shit together and we're playing the bumbling duo... and somehow winning (which is admittedly amusing).

I love the game, I just think Pit and Palutena are the worst characters in it.
 
Is that story told in Kid Icarus: Uprising?

Man I need to pick up this game!
Not sure how to answer this question. The story in Uprising is HUGE. You could break it into three separate titles, making it a trilogy. There are at least five different factions, as well. (Spoilers -- only read if you beat the game: The factions are
Angel Land, the Underworld, the Forces of Nature, the Aurum, and the Chaos Vortex
)

I know none of it's malicious, it's just really jarring to see the rest of the universe having its shit together and we're playing the bumbling duo... and somehow winning (which is admittedly amusing).

I love the game, I just think Pit and Palutena are the worst characters in it.
I love all of the characters. *shrugs*
 
I know none of it's malicious, it's just really jarring to see the rest of the universe having its shit together and we're playing the bumbling duo... and somehow winning (which is admittedly amusing).

I love the game, I just think Pit and Palutena are the worst characters in it.

i really think it just boils down to main character syndrome :P I love both characters either way though
 
Not sure how to answer this question. The story in Uprising is HUGE. You could break it into three separate titles, making it a trilogy. There are at least five different factions, as well. (Spoilers -- only read if you beat the game: The factions are
Angel Land, the Underworld, the Forces of Nature, the Aurum, and the Chaos Vortex
)

Yeah there's basically about 5 story arcs in the entire game. I like the game and all but sometimes it felt like it was jumping here and there when it came to what villain was top priority.
 
But they work different, so thats why he is different.

I never said he wasn't different. I'm saying he shares things with Fox, that's completely uninspired.

His attacks are all completely different, which is great, but once it hits the special moves.. They're a copy of Fox's that work differently.

I'd say his standard b move can stay, but they should really change up the rest.
 
I know none of it's malicious, it's just really jarring to see the rest of the universe having its shit together and we're playing the bumbling duo... and somehow winning (which is admittedly amusing).

please, nobody in that universe has their shit together
 
KI:U major character tier lists! We haven't had one of those since the KI:U thread. Definitely Hades > Palutena > Phyrron > Viridi > Pit.

It's a bit dissonant for me in that all the other factions have their own units running around doing stuff, but Palutena just sends Pit because... reasons. But no, she's got a faction she commands but instead of doing anything she just sits and moans in her temple about how all these awful things are befalling the human world and how it's her duty as a god to take care of everything but nope! Just Pit.

MEANWHILE, she's teasing and berating Pit every step of the way, offering vague support with various powers and items but ultimately not doing anything, and Pit still has unwavering devotion to her because... reasons.

Every supporting character is way, way more interesting in their actions and dialogue, backing up their lieutenants (who as far as I can tell, are supposed to be equivalently ranked with Pit?) far better... Palutena's just there.

Well, except for maybe Medusa. She might be worse.
Palutena continually jokes about how incompetent the rest of her forces are. Pit is a league above all of them, and a league above everything everyone else has, too. You can make the "omg why rely on Pit" complaint, but it doesn't really make sense when
Viridi does the same thing - she's so glad to have Pit that he's all she uses once she has the chance!
The lad is just crazy good!

There are also several points in the game where Palutena makes use of the Centurions, in case you forgot. They mostly hang back and play supporting roles, though. If anything, praise be to Palutena for not throwing endless waves of troops to their death like her counterparts.

And I'll say it again: I don't think Palutena ever moans or complains. I don't think there's even a moment in the game where she's anything but perky and chipper aside from one instance where she clearly should be.

This. They banter and its comedy gold.

"Wait...why can't you see the way out of Pandora's lair if you have an all seeing eye of Palutena?"

"Its because of my slightly botched lasik surgery.

"..."
"ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!"

*You can positively hear Palutena trollfacing*

Game's banter was terrific. Honestly I didn't know that Nintendo could do dialogue heavy cast so wonderfully. Pretty much a triumph that they are the Nintendo folk known for not being silent and for actually being entertaining to listen to during flight unlike Star Fox and Slippy banter.
:-D

Yeah there's basically about 5 story arcs in the entire game. I like the game and all but sometimes it felt like it was jumping here and there when it came to what villain was top priority.
That's the point, though. It's like a gunshot followed by a grenade followed by a rocket launcher followed by a tank, then a <deep breath> bomb into a missile into a nuclear silo into a supernova. The game just keeps blowing your mind with the arc shifts, and it's all masterfully done.

I really should play Kid Icarus Uprising one of these days.
It's easily the best 3DS game out.
 
please, nobody in that universe has their shit together

Yeah...
Well, maybe Magnus, and Hades' had a decent plan... but it was to CREATE chaos, which, combined with his behavior, doesn't count. And I'm definitely not counting the Aurum, because they have the mentality of a locust swarm.
 
#MedusaGotRobbed

They played her too straight instead of at least putting together some semblance of a strong personality besides "lol I am the great evil" before completely axing her early in the game's plot. She's one of the OG three to me and should be respected for being as much. *pouts*
 
I don't think I could even pick my favorite Uprising character. I do wish Magnus and Medusa were expanded upon, but that's about it.

I also just realized how funny it would be if Falco DID end up being confirmed this week considering the fake picture from last night.
 
please, nobody in that universe has their shit together

Hades's goal was to create havoc and chaos and he's got that in the bag.
Pyrrhon knew exactly what he was doing and executed everything perfectly, he just underestimated the power of the hive mentality.
Viridi knew perfectly well what she was doing and although she gets pulled into the fray by Hades's machinations puts up a fair fight she but stretched herself too thin in fighting multiple fronts.
The Aurum were mindless, but they did what they did well.
Magnus managed to handle everything well.

All that really leaves is Palutena trying to solve anything and everything with her swiss army Pit, and she gets her soul sucked out by a transdimensional bug.
 
Magnus is the worst character in KI : U.

[insert bad-ass anti-hero that plays by his own rules and has a massive sword here.]

Palutena is fucking great. Never cared to see her as a fighter in Smash though, so she's one of my least looked forward too newcomers.
 
Magnus is the worst character in KI : U.

[insert bad-ass anti-hero that plays by his own rules and has a massive sword here.]

Palutena is fucking great. Never cared to see her as a fighter in Smash though, so she's one of my least looked forward too newcomers.

His theme is fucking amazing though.

If it's not in SSB4 I will RAGE.
 
Does Fox = Ryu, Falco = Ken, Wolf = Akuma rule apply? I'm totally a noob so please take it easy on me senpai

I would assume that's what it would denote to. Here's hopin Slippy is Dan!...And Peppy is Sean... Screw it...Dan Hibiki for Smash!
 
Hades's goal was to create havoc and chaos and he's got that in the bag.
Pyrrhon knew exactly what he was doing and executed everything perfectly, he just underestimated the power of the hive mentality.
Viridi knew perfectly well what she was doing and although she gets pulled into the fray by Hades's machinations puts up a fair fight she but stretched herself too thin in fighting multiple fronts.
The Aurum were mindless, but they did what they did well.
Magnus managed to handle everything well.

All that really leaves is Palutena trying to solve anything and everything with her swiss army Pit, and she gets her soul sucked out by a transdimensional bug.

But she also wins ultimately so clearly she had her shit together

I was disappointed they didn't go anywhere with Magnus's former companion, the Dark Lord
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My only iffy newcomer is Palutena not because I don't like her as a character but because I really don't have much of an idea about how she'll play as her trailer decided to focus more on her customized special moves then showing her standard move set. Once Sakurai confirms her default moveset or we get some footage of her being played with no customization on I'll enjoy her more.
 
KI:U major character tier lists! We haven't had one of those since the KI:U thread. Definitely Hades > Palutena > Phyrron > Viridi > Pit.


Palutena continually jokes about how incompetent the rest of her forces are. Pit is a league above all of them, and a league above everything everyone else has, too. You can make the "omg why rely on Pit" complaint, but it doesn't really make sense when
Viridi does the same thing - she's so glad to have Pit that he's all she uses once she has the chance!
The lad is just crazy good!
In fairness, all of Viridi's own lieutenants were kind of dead by that point
 
Just going to go with 2+ appearances on this list

Pyrrhonn>Viridi=Hades>Pit (Nintendogs+talk to himself parts)>Magnus (dialogue with Pit=too good)=Dark Pit (the synchronization with Pit was amazing)=Thanatos=Palutena>Pandora>Medusa

Disclaimeer: pretty much all of these characters, asides from Medusa, in any other game would probably be my favorite character or among them

It's just a tribute to how fucking amazing Uprising's cast is

And since it's been mentioned, Magnus's theme

Lightning Battle and Dark Pit's theme are already in, we just need Dog Theme and Magnus Theme for the sacred four to be complete
 
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