My biggest problem with Twilight Princess was that Ganondorf was executed with his shirt on. They had a perfectly good opportunity and they wasted it.
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My biggest problem with Twilight Princess was that Ganondorf was executed with his shirt on. They had a perfectly good opportunity and they wasted it.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Thanks for the pictures. I always found it fun to look at.
This is how I view the main Zelda characters in Smash Bros.:
Link - courageous swordsman (mid-range/balanced)
Zelda - wise mage (keeps a distance)
Ganondorf - powerful warlock (hard-hitting close range fighter)
I like Ganondorf's focus, I just don't like many of the attacks themselves. He doesn't commit to using a particular weapon in the Zelda games, so I'd rather he fight empty handed. I just want to see the ball of lightning (neutral B) and a few dark magic attacks.
Link - courageous swordsman (mid-range/balanced)
Zelda - wise mage (keeps a distance)
Ganondorf - powerful warlock (hard-hitting close range fighter)
I like Ganondorf's focus, I just don't like many of the attacks themselves. He doesn't commit to using a particular weapon in the Zelda games, so I'd rather he fight empty handed. I just want to see the ball of lightning (neutral B) and a few dark magic attacks.
Karsticles
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Warlock means "close range" to you?
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Ganondorf should hit hard from anywhere IMO. Triforce of Power man.
Kor of Memory
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He does commit to a weapon though. The trident. It's been in more games than not at this point I think.
Ganondorf (the humanoid form) only appears in Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, and Twilight Princess, and he doesn't use the trident in any of those.
Bamboo Boy
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MagiusNecros
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Phantom Ganon in OoT does. More of a lance or spear though.
Why is that 2nd flyer using the English names in that screenshot bottom right?
IntelliHeath
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People want to get free clicks, so yeah.
Mr. Smiley
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Beelzebufo
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Haha there's not going to be anything tomorrow then.
"Warlock" doesn't inherently imply a preferred fighting distance (magic can be used in a variety of ways), but being a tall, slow villain who wields the Triforce of Power suggests he fits the fighting game power character archetype quite well. It makes for a nice trifecta with Link as the all-arounder and Zelda as the "apprehensive" distance fighter.
Mr. Smiley
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Karsticles
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Dormammu is a tall, slow, power-based character that is primarily ranged. I dont think Ganondorf's "power" status means anything. Sure, he can be close range, but I don't think he needs to be glued to that .
Sorry to cause hype guys, here have some more hype fuel
Thanks for the pics, appreciate them
Beelzebufo
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But in two of his three appearances, Ganondorf uses close ranged attacks, uncluding punches and sword strikes.
MagiusNecros
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I think Ganondorf needs to be powerful but not broken but also bring his own flair of elements from the games he is in and essentially bring the best of both worlds of the technical aspects of Zelda's Magic while having great close range melee options and then some aspects unique to Ganondorf out of the 3.
Or simply make him more then a slower more powerful Capt. Falcon.
Or simply make him more then a slower more powerful Capt. Falcon.
You're comparing E3, the biggest VG-related event in the world, to the WHF, a Japanese-centric event that's not even VG-focused.
And Sakurai didn't even need to tease anything: everyone knew there'd be characters reveals during E3.
Believe me, don't expect anything.
Worst case scenario, there IS a character reveal tomorrow and it'll be real surprise
Mr. Smiley
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Best case scenario is if Ganondorf is the fifth (and final) character to get the Mii/Palutena treatment.
A set focused on his base melee/brawl moveset, one on his weaponry, and one on spells and projectiles.
Or shoot, keep the base moveset just add variations on the animations.
A set focused on his base melee/brawl moveset, one on his weaponry, and one on spells and projectiles.
Or shoot, keep the base moveset just add variations on the animations.
I would be ok with that.
IntelliHeath
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that he said something about Digital Event and E3.
He did.
Bamboo Boy
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I remember people in this thread really worried before the Digital Event just because Sakurai didn't mention it anywhere before it started, haha.
Karsticles
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If Ganondorf has a weapon-based moveset, then all three of my favorite characters are ruined in this game. Oi.
PadWarrior
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Mr. Smiley, thanks a bunch bro. Really appreciate it.
Troubled Bat
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I need to see Shulk already.
Bamboo Boy
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My bet goes for a veteran come back tomorrow. Everyone's favorite... R.O.B.!
Superturkeys
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Why are people saying Sakurai didn't tease this event? He did.
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAAYUKlaLAFaSg
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAAYUKlaLAFaSg
JB-the-Hunter
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Who are the other two and how are they ruined?
Mockingbird
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The Japanese under the Question Mark says there are other characters that will fight too -- confirming more reveals to come.
Beelzebufo
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Does it mention a specific event or anything?
Superturkeys
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The whole thing is the event. As for a presentation, no. He posted about it though which is what fuels my hopes for tonight.
PadWarrior
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How funny would it be if Falco is revealed tonight.
Beelzebufo
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Wouldn't the reveal be tomorrow, not tonight?
PorygonVandal
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Soooo we have no idea what the text below the ???? box says?
Tonight is sunday on Japan
Beelzebufo
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Save 'N Quit
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But that's what I want for Ike.
Karsticles
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Samus, by once again not having her bombs explode on contact.
Bowser, by making him walk upright and punch people instead of some of his claw and she'll attacks. Completely aesthetically unattractive, now.
It is a good thing Palutena is in, or I might be entirely uninterested in the roster.
Here's to hoping for Mewtwo, Demise, Ridley, and Hades so I might actually have options.
Neoriceisgood
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Bowser looks so much better than his old man with broken back look from brawl.
Except :
1) it's no tease, he's just telling people the 3DS version will be playable at the event, and is linking to the official Nintendo page for it.
2) it's only for Japanese readers. If he were teasing something, there would have been a post in English too.
sorakirosaki
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i always thought samus's bomb's took a while to explode in the metroid games :/ or maybe im remembering wrong and i like bowsers new look to be honest he kinda reminds me of the inside story bowser where i think he punches as his basic attack?
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