Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 2: Where Pilotwings is apparently Minecraft

Hello SmashGAF! How are you tod-

*sees long rants about batman having a chance of being in next smash.*

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seriously what the fuck happened here


why is the guy comparing batman to ROB's and Snake's inclusion

HE'S NOT FUCKING VIDEO GAME CHARACTER FOR GOODNESS SAKE

WHY DO WE EVEN NEED TO ARGUE ABOUT IT?

AND ROB COUNTS BECAUSE HE WAS A GAMING ACCESSORY

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *tears hair and runs out of the thread*

When I woke up today, things were really strange. It's post-Peach anxiety, I'm an expert on this.
 
Bowser stands up straight, Luigi has his proper jump, Samus is more agile. I like this new Smash.

Now make Ganondorf more like how he is in Zelda games.
 
I hope this bodes well for Ganondorf acting more like he does. Luigi's flutter jump is iconic of him, it was always weird to have it missing.

I wonder if this means he'll fall slower.
 
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I can't believe somebody was seriously trying to defend the inclusion of a non-video game character into Smash. Yeah, Batman's awesome and would make an awesome character if he were to make it in, but Sakurai's explicitly said non-video game characters are verboten, so you're wasting everyone's time with this charade.
 
The weird thing is when I was looking back at the dude's initial post, he basically said "Batman would be awesome, but I don't think they'd ever put him in". I don't know how the discussion escalated from "he's probably not going to be in" to "BUT HE MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!!!!!!"
 
Yeah I think we honestly just need to move on and drop the issue. In other news....

Hearing about all the little tweaks making characters feel more like they do in recent games - luigi's flutter jump, samus being faster and more powerful, donkey kong getting buffed and stronger, bowser's tweaks. What other characters need tweaking to better "feel" like they should? I saw the suggestion of Ganondorf getting a new moveset to feel more like Ganondorf and less like Falcondorf. My other suggestions are -

- buff captain falcon's speed again! I know they had to slow him down so that Sonic could be the fastest character but assuming he doesn't make it back let's make Falcon freaking fast again!

- I know a lot of people here aren't fans of project m but I think speeding up DeDeDe's attacks a little to make him less worthless like they did in project m would be awesome.

- Please PLEASE rebalance Meta Knight!

- Speed Pikachu back up as well.
 
Bowser stands up straight, Luigi has his proper jump, Samus is more agile. I like this new Smash.

Now make Ganondorf more like how he is in Zelda games.
I don't think they've shown Samus to be more agile at all. From what little we've seen of her in motion she looks about as nimble as she does in the other Smash games. The only changes we've really seen to her are a buffed Charge Shot and a redone forward smash.
 
The only occasion where I can definitely see a non-gaming character being in a sort of Smash Bros. game is in an hypotetic Nintendo v.s. Capcom? Why? If there's going to be guest stars (let's say 3 for N, 3 for C), a Marvel character could be put there and actually make sense due to all MvC games.

Looking at today's pic: yeah, both SKUs look fantastic...but how the fuck does the 3DS version look so good?
 
Snake originated on the MSX. The NES games came later (and they were awful from what I've heard).

Metal Gear on NES is an interesting chronicle since they were told to make it "different" in 3 months for some reason.

Snake's Revenge isn't even canon in the current series since Kojima had no part in it, but it exists!
 
MSX, actually. The first game was kinda-sorta ported to NES (with a few liberties taken). Snake's Revenge, though, doesn't really count as Metal Gear 2.

Snake originated on the MSX. The NES games came later (and they were awful from what I've heard).

Oh...

Well, screw me then.

The only occasion where I can definitely see a non-gaming character being in a sort of Smash Bros. game is in an hypotetic Nintendo v.s. Capcom? ...

I would love for this to happen, too bad it wouldn't ever happen. D:
 
As I posted before he's not just had a few games, he's had over 25 games on nearly ever Nintendo system released (besides the Virtual Boy) with him as the main character, not counting other games where is is not the main character. He's also currently in a hugely popular and critically acclaimed series of games, two of which will be on the Wii U.

I'm not sure how someone could think he couldn't be properly represented in the game, he has tons of gadgets you could put in as B moves. The grappling hook, batarangs, smoke pellets, small explosives.

Why should it matter if he's appeared in other fighting games? Should there never be any fighting game crossovers? Should Link have not appeared in Soul Caliber 2?
I'm pretty sure Link was in Soul CalibUr to sell more copies. So if a comicbook character is included, it would make more sense to add Marvel characters, specially Iron Man, it would sell more than including Batman.

people would be happy taking screenshots with Iron Man and Samus fighting cause they armors have the same colors. And then fans would want a cameo of any Nintendo character in the next Avengers movie, and since Samus would be the most fitting you would see a random lady looking like her in A2 and people would start speculating all over again about everything, and anything either Nintendo or Marvel do will be (according to fans) pointing tof A3 being Avengers vs Smash and the world would implode. That's why we don't need Marvel in Smash, yet. But if for some reason they must, then it should be Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel
 
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