Acullis said:
You do seem really pissed off, based off of your name calling, just saying.
Do you like the adventures of gootecks and mike ross? They don't exactly do analysis, but their commentary is entertaining and not irritating to listen to. (to me, as opposed to casters like jaha and yipes, due to their vulgarity and immaturity)
My point is truly that there is a middle ground, and that I don't believe anything of value would be lost if people casting would make an attempt to be slightly more mature and at least show some discretion that they are broadcasting to a wide audience.
What would be lost is the personality that the majority of players and viewers LIKE to hear. I like Gootecks and Mike Ross, Chen and Ultradavid, Ryan Hunter and Seth Killian. Sp00ky. Skisonic.
Look at all these guys who do great commentary and keep it PG.
But I also like Yipes and Arturo. I like D-Nyce. I like when Rush Hour talks their grimy shit. I like Henry Cen and Combofiend trollin hardbody. I like that we have this diversity. I don't want all of any one of their styles. I don't want Yipes and Art muzzled and replaced with more Chen and UD. I want there to be a compliment of styles, and yes, that includes foul mouthed and crass dudes. This is why the boo hoo hooing about Yipes rubs me the wrong way. For one he isn't saying anything that is out of bounds, and for another thing, he isn't on the mic for an entire weekend at an event. He gets sprinkled in a bit here and there. So the bitching and moaning about his language comes off as some seriously entitled/greedy type shit. Like that person should have every minute of commentary be catered specifically for their tastes (or lack thereof).
And on the flip side, what is to be gained from neutering our favorite commentators? And neutering them for what? For some small handful of complainers? I just don't see the need to cater to a small minority who can just as easily avoid the commentary if it bothers them that much.
narcosis219 said:
No, Saty's right, we're wrong. We're also oversensitive pricks who won't STFU. Okay Saty, I'll shut up now.
I do think you guys are way too oversensitive, but I'm not trying to silence you. You can crow about vulgar commentary until you are blue in the face. But I'm going to speak up for those of us who don't want our streams neutered and made bland and boring just to suit your sensibilities.
letsbereasonable said:
My problem with the "fun" commentary isn't that it's offensive or has bad languge, but that it's neither funny nor entertaining. It's unoriginal, kindergarten level garbage that only contributes to the complete Idiocracy that is the FGC.
Great. So since the FGC is so infantile and obviously beneath you, why don't you take yourself to your local Chess tournament or Stamp Collecting convention where you will have to hear nary a vulgar or crass word spoken?? Perhaps tune in to a nice sewing circle stream? I'm sure there has to be something on Justin.tv that will suit your needs for G-rated commentary.
letsbereasonable said:
Saty's absolutely right about finding another channel if you don't like what you're watching. To that end, I had to drop Kadey's stream after tiring of Saty calling people homophobic slurs all night in stream chat.
Oh noes!! I used a homophobic slur!!
Infinite Justice said:
im' shocked as well. Saty
Don't be. You'd be surprised just how many people in this thread and elsewhere (such as actual gay person Ricky Ortiz) use "homophobic slurs" all the time either in person or in stream or irc chats. When Ricky Ortiz calls people a "faggot" I really don't think he is intending to denigrate himself or other gay people. It's just another word in a vast arsenal. Is it a crass and ugly and juvenile word? Yes, yes it is. Does using it mean that you are a homophobe who hates gays? No.
I swear to god, you people who are "shocked" at the use of a word in a stream chat would have a stroke or a heart attack if you ever set foot on a basketball court or football field. And fighting games engender the same aggressive and callous mentality as sports since they are also competitive. So you can either grow a thicker skin when you are in stream chats or at tourneys where you might see/hear these horrible words, or you can avoid the entire scene altogether.
