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Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition |OT4| Daigo Who?
- Thread starter Teknopathetic
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Huh, no lag (that I could tell of) my first match.
So many accidental DPs on the pad... haha.
Edit: I played two matches and didn't get any lag that I could tell of. I think I'll do the install and then make the long wait until Tuesday when I get my stick... then I will grind. Forever.
Add me on PSN at LeadProtagonist if you want to help me, haha. I'm going to try to learn Makoto. I know next to nothing about the game. It will be fun.
So many accidental DPs on the pad... haha.
Edit: I played two matches and didn't get any lag that I could tell of. I think I'll do the install and then make the long wait until Tuesday when I get my stick... then I will grind. Forever.
Add me on PSN at LeadProtagonist if you want to help me, haha. I'm going to try to learn Makoto. I know next to nothing about the game. It will be fun.
I don't suppose anyone here could give me some Ibuki tips? I've read up on SRK and got quite far, but there's not much info on her normals there as much as there is on combos and advanced strategies, and some of the guides are for SSF4, and outdated.
I've got her vortex and super jumps down, as well as what attacks I can and cannot setup a successful vortex, but I'm having trouble with her footsie and poking game. In general, I find myself flailing around like a madman all across the screen hoping to land a s.lp, so I can setup her vortex game, but frankly, I feel like an idiot doing it.
I know b.MP for or cr.HP for anti-air, but besides that, I'm clueless (c.MP seems good at range to cancel into MK spinning kicks... maybe?). what are her good normals that lead into combos and which normals should I be using when I'm at a longer range?
I can figure out the combos myself, but the only real way I can figure out the chance of an attack getting out poked is by using it, and probably losing because of it, a lot. Which I don't particularly like the sound of.
I'm fully aware that Ibuki is a complex character and mis-timing one kunai throw will probably lose the round for me, especially with the amount of jab and shoryuken spammers online, but I want to learn her.
I've got her vortex and super jumps down, as well as what attacks I can and cannot setup a successful vortex, but I'm having trouble with her footsie and poking game. In general, I find myself flailing around like a madman all across the screen hoping to land a s.lp, so I can setup her vortex game, but frankly, I feel like an idiot doing it.
I know b.MP for or cr.HP for anti-air, but besides that, I'm clueless (c.MP seems good at range to cancel into MK spinning kicks... maybe?). what are her good normals that lead into combos and which normals should I be using when I'm at a longer range?
I can figure out the combos myself, but the only real way I can figure out the chance of an attack getting out poked is by using it, and probably losing because of it, a lot. Which I don't particularly like the sound of.
I'm fully aware that Ibuki is a complex character and mis-timing one kunai throw will probably lose the round for me, especially with the amount of jab and shoryuken spammers online, but I want to learn her.
Checking my player data from the time I rebought SF4 and upped it to AE.
My supposed main:
C.Viper.
Number of fights: 76
Wins: 11
Win rate: 14.47%
FOURTEEN POINT FOUR SEVEN PERCENT
You know what's really great about that? I've been maining Viper since two months after vanilla came out (albeit with many on and off periods).
I. AM. BAD.
Does anyone else still persist in playing even though they are demonstrably terrible?
My supposed main:
C.Viper.
Number of fights: 76
Wins: 11
Win rate: 14.47%
FOURTEEN POINT FOUR SEVEN PERCENT
You know what's really great about that? I've been maining Viper since two months after vanilla came out (albeit with many on and off periods).
I. AM. BAD.
Does anyone else still persist in playing even though they are demonstrably terrible?
Axis
Member
Ashkeloth said:
c.mp OS neckbreaker is better than OS tsurugi i think; sets up the vortex very well. use it at whiff punish range. c.lk has good range and is special cancellable so using it at a decent range into lk or mk tsurugi is probably a good idea due to their relative safeness on block. otherwise i'm not sure about her normals...i think she's more of an "in your face" character without very many good poking tools outside of c.lk and c.mp.
edit: don't underestimate slide as a poking tool from safe ranges, either.
and obligatory youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBwiINYFLN4
black_vegeta
Member
Toodles,
Are you the Toodles from SRK?
Are you the Toodles from SRK?
Axis said:
Ah, thanks for your help. My issue at the minute is that she is an "in your face" character that is not very good at getting "out of your face" if you get in some trouble, and some kind of decent poke would at least give a way to remount an offensive after a knock down. Guess I've gotta be all offense all the time.
Problem is that when there's characters like Yun around that are offensive and have good pokes and footsie tools, I guess characters like Ibuki fall into redundancy.
Edit: No, really, thanks for your help. Turns out c.LK was the tool I was missing. coupled with the occasional overhead, c.LP, s.MK, spin kicks, or a tick throw, my mixup game's pretty damned strong now. Now I just need to work on getting this vortex to land 100% of the time and getting some actual hitconfirm combos and I'm set.
KidA Seven
Member
Kadey said:
It didn't work for me.
Professor Beef
Banned
Did you do it on the keypad, and not the numbers above the letters?KidA Seven said:It didn't work for me.
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KidA Seven
Member
Professor Beef said:
I used the numbers above the letters.
black_vegeta
Member
Toodles said:
lol
I'll have to play with some of you guys once I get my stick to see if I'm really lagging or not. Things looked pretty smooth, but since I have no idea what I'm doing I'm assuming that I could be lagging somewhat and not even notice, right?
Either way it looks playable online for me in some aspect or another, which is a huge relief.
Either way it looks playable online for me in some aspect or another, which is a huge relief.
sixteen-bit
Member
This was fun to watch.biosnake20 said:
DjangoReinhardt
Thinks he should have been the one to kill Batman's parents.
Maybe Viper isn't a good fit for your style.Toodles said:
Why do you think you're losing? What are your strengths and weaknesses as a player?
Toodles said:
You ARE playing one of the highest, if not THE highest, character that needs crisp and clean execution. I mean I commend you that you want to stick with her, but maybe it's time to pick up someone less demanding on execution so you can level up your game. You can always come back to her after you get better from other characters.
I wasn't able to do any of Vipers stuff consistently back in vanilla, but now I can do super jump cancel ultras, and seismo cancel stuff. You'll progressively get better with her too if you play non stop, but I'm guessing you don't play often if you only had 76 fights under your belt. I probably have 7600 by now lol.
The 76 fights are just from the past month or so since I got set up with a new xbox/gamertag etc. I've played the various iterations of SF4 on for a couple of months off for a couple of months pretty consistently since I started. I have plenty of Viper fights under my belt.
And yeah, she's very likely out of my league in terms of sheer execution capability (I still can't get consistent instant-air BKs - a huge hole in her momentum game). But shit, she's easily the most fun character in the roster. I like Sakura and E.Honda too (the only charge character I seem able to wrap my head around), I play a little Ibuki and Makoto. Still haven't found a street-fighting soulmate, natural-fit-wise. So Viper stays on top just because even when I'm losing, I'm just waiting for that next pop->kick->ultra. So delicious.
And why am I losing? I think my brain simply might not be wired correctly for what fighting games demand - in pressure situations I *always* resort to 'snatching' at inputs, and I seem incapable of playing the game with a meta strategy in mind, everything's reactionary because my head becomes full of fuck, ha. This is stuff I notice in all sorts of video games also - I've always fared better at turn-based moreso than real-time. All that said, fighting games still have a snare around my heart.
And yeah, she's very likely out of my league in terms of sheer execution capability (I still can't get consistent instant-air BKs - a huge hole in her momentum game). But shit, she's easily the most fun character in the roster. I like Sakura and E.Honda too (the only charge character I seem able to wrap my head around), I play a little Ibuki and Makoto. Still haven't found a street-fighting soulmate, natural-fit-wise. So Viper stays on top just because even when I'm losing, I'm just waiting for that next pop->kick->ultra. So delicious.
And why am I losing? I think my brain simply might not be wired correctly for what fighting games demand - in pressure situations I *always* resort to 'snatching' at inputs, and I seem incapable of playing the game with a meta strategy in mind, everything's reactionary because my head becomes full of fuck, ha. This is stuff I notice in all sorts of video games also - I've always fared better at turn-based moreso than real-time. All that said, fighting games still have a snare around my heart.
Cloudius12
Member
lol dat Inthul ThumbupsGod's Beard said:
Cloudius12
Member
do you have access to PSN GAF chat yet?InsertNameHere said:
Cloudius12 said:
Ah, no, who do I get in contact to for that? I'm probably not going to hop online until Tuesday night when I can actually start using a stick. Right now I'm just getting a small feel for how different characters handle offline, but I still think I'm going to stick with Makoto unless someone else really pops out at me. Haven't tried any charge characters yet, so who knows about them.
Cloudius12
Member
When you get the chance, you can add me and I can invite you. Most regulars are on in the evenings.
PSN: Cloudius12
PSN: Cloudius12
sixteen-bit
Member
How did Inthul do at Evo?
Toodles said:The 76 fights are just from the past month or so since I got set up with a new xbox/gamertag etc. I've played the various iterations of SF4 on for a couple of months off for a couple of months pretty consistently since I started. I have plenty of Viper fights under my belt.
And yeah, she's very likely out of my league in terms of sheer execution capability (I still can't get consistent instant-air BKs - a huge hole in her momentum game). But shit, she's easily the most fun character in the roster. I like Sakura and E.Honda too (the only charge character I seem able to wrap my head around), I play a little Ibuki and Makoto. Still haven't found a street-fighting soulmate, natural-fit-wise. So Viper stays on top just because even when I'm losing, I'm just waiting for that next pop->kick->ultra. So delicious.
At least you're having fun =p
Professor Beef
Banned
There's an anime convention coming up early next month with AE and Third Strike in the console room as tournaments. Thinking about going just to mop up the place, but I dunno if it's worth it to score a copy of Random Door Prize Manga or not.
toastyToast
Member
My distaste for autocorrect grows by the day. Maybe because I can't get in on the action playing a charge character ;_;
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
Lostconfused said:
I disagree, SFIV is not that game. All you need to be very successful is an easy situational BnB that you can pull off 90% of the time. The rest of the game is about spacing and risk/reward situations.
I would say that Marvel is more the game you are describing.
Professor Beef
Banned
Imm0rt4l said:
