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Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition |OT4| Daigo Who?
- Thread starter Teknopathetic
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In the corner: lk. duck straight > lp. mgb/hp. Jet Upper/ex. duck upper/ex. duck straight loop > lp.mgb
Midscreen: lk. duck straight > ex duck upper, mk. duck straight > hp. Jet Upper. Or easier, EX MGB > lk/mk duck upper.
The EX duck upper combos after the duck straight should work on every character, and duck straight > lp. mgb works on everyone except Blanka.
Landing duck straight after EX MGB on Bison, Honda, Zangief, Dhalsim and Shoto's is pretty tight, so I would practice on one of them to make sure you don't drop it on anyone else.
Does anyone want to play?
Also for some odd reason, I can't join any session on PSN. It finds some and when joining it says unable to join - it has happened for about 10 folks that I tried to join. WTF is wrong?
Maybe you need to DMZ your console?
Have the same problem. Been trying to connect to people for the last 10 minutes and I jsut get unable to join. Those same people I try to connect to seem to be having the same problem as when I refresh the search results a good 90% of the results are the exact same as last time.
I'll play you zapages, PSN: onem1c.
Edit: looks like PSN's down...
Some pretty nice changes coming to 2013 for Akuma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKjNBjiKRFE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKjNBjiKRFE
stabicron7
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Well get the feeling this might something to do with the PS3's botched update. Or thats my theory.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/06/sony-pulls-ps3-firmware-update-on-reports-of-bricked-systems/
Oh wow, didn't know that. Maybe the Sakura I played was just bad, cause I could always punish it.
Hm, was trying to corner thing off a c.hk but can't connect ex duck upper after lp mgb.
Yeah, Cr. HK takes a lot of juggle points away. After EX MGB, you can only get 2 cr. Hk's (only one on some characters) and that's a one frame link. You can do EX. MGB > Cr. HK > 1 hit of EX duck upper but it isn't worth the meter.
lp mgb is an ender so the only thing you can connect after that is super and a few hits of ultra II.
If you're ending after TC2 (that's back+mp x hp, right?) shouldn't you be doing hp srk or hk tatsu? Do you use mk stomp for the knockdown? IIRC LK slash is the ender if you're going to FADC or you want the standing mixup afterwards.
Edit: Also, lately versus decent Oni's I've been mashing back+stand tech after they land a hit. If they try hk or ex slash resets, I grab them right out of it. Have you encountered anyone doing that? What is your answer to it? (besides just not doing a reset)
I've been trying to get his moves down but still in the lab. Oni is the character I want to play but right now I don't feel competent enough with him to take him out in the wild. (Like I ever get to play online anyway.)
Stomp for the knockdown, yeah, which is why getting a slash is a bad result and LK slash with no meter even worse. I'm definitely working on ending with Tatsu since I can't reliably get stomp over slash yet.
Totally honest I am not at a level yet where I can think about resets with any of my characters. If I get it in it's just combo, knockdown, start again.
Edit: I'm mostly following this guy for what I'm trying to learn with Oni.
Stomp for the knockdown, yeah, which is why getting a slash is a bad result and LK slash with no meter even worse. I'm definitely working on ending with Tatsu since I can't reliably get stomp over slash yet.
Totally honest I am not at a level yet where I can think about resets with any of my characters. If I get it in it's just combo, knockdown, start again.
Edit: I'm mostly following this guy for what I'm trying to learn with Oni.
Just DP or throw afterwards, best mixup!
I also have a problem when I play oni: When I go from crouch blocking to doing forward+mk, I often get mk slash.
Fucking mk slash.
I would suggest watching Combofiend or Ryan Hart if you want to see practical, high-level Oni play. That dude is okay but he crumbles against anyone who understands Oni's gimmicks.
Rice-Eater
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At least it's safe on block. And then you still have to deal with the most invincible DP in the game, that ground pound move, or just a regular throw. I think the move is fine and doesn't need to be changed. He has bigger problems else where.
Any vid links? I've been trying to watch Chris Hu matches too.
I will say it's better in some ways for me to watch someone who plays "way better than me but not godlike."
Hahah, yup. And no real way to fix it.
Yeah I guess he already has enough options after a blocked slash. I'm probably just wanting the character to be something it's not.
I didn't know Oni can combo into his air raging demon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S38mtUyvTI&t=53m58s
After Dreamhack these are much needed changes but fuck Capcom for nerfing Akuma's sweep, it balances out all the buffs.
edit - dead @ the cammy one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7mOVUHvmzo
Passive Assassin
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Combofiend's Oni shamed WSO :{
You should input up forward while doing the super which should make it easier.
I always input it too fast and get it during the pre-jump frames anyway :/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPBV4pxPy68
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e7jJi2CXMo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThMPpYk8CNk
Lol, that first match just reminded me of how stupid Akuma is.
I can kinda understand that but the better the player is, the more you can learn from them. Combofiend wins through a solid ground game and really only goes for the 'gimmicky stuff when he has a good enough read on the situation.
Passive Assassin
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ggs to whoever jenov is. I'm sorry I brought out my fray oni/mak. Saw some of the posts in this thread about Oni and decided to try him up. His ground game is fun and his fadc combos along with Mak's s.fierce hc whatever is amazing.
Thing on a Spring
Member
Super drunk. PS3 lobby. xCombichristx.
BotoxAgent
Member
hey that was me. I forgot what ur gamertag was too on GAF. It wasn't until you used Ibuki at the end that I recognized who you are.
I was having a ton of weird execution frustrations throughout, until I realized my stick's switch was on LS, lol. I couldn't even do a simple fireball for a while.
GGs man, I need more PC players to play.
Passive Assassin
Member
Gotcha. Must of been the reason why I won at least one Oni match haha.
Damn I am itching to play but my fear of lagging people gets me
From the couple times I played you it felt alright. I truly don't give a fucks about lag though, just par for the course online.
Rice-Eater
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Venfayth, I just read in the Jaxel thread that you said you threw a tourney in Minneapolis. Just wondering, but do you know a player that goes by Steelo or Steel Yang(real name) that plays SF4? He plays Adon, Yang, and Gouken although he's been mainly using Gouken lately. He's my good friend who moved up to St. Paul recently and has been going to those Mall tournaments. Just wondering if you two know each other.
black_vegeta
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ggs Botox. Dat no fear wake up srk. Damn near reaching Timedog status.
Haha! Yeah, I definitely do. I've hung out with him a couple times at locals and we talked at that tournament. Next time I see him I'll tell him you said hey
*shrug* all sobats are -5 at the least (MK, HK, and EX are -7,-9 and -8 respectively), even online it shouldn't be difficult to punish unless they space it fairly far.
Better than not being able to punish a lot of specials, online or offline because your normals and specials are too slow/have poor range.
I don't wanna steal enjoyment haha. Also, everyone uses that excuse when I whoop them. :O!
That's how I feel about gouken. Since he can't combo from lights, it can be rather tough to punish people.
BotoxAgent
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ggs Botox. Dat no fear wake up srk. Damn near reaching Timedog status.
ggs man. I was mashin dat shiet
Anyone got a good Dhalsim guide? Discovered he's a blast to use. Been browsing SRK and watching some videos(this one is awesome).
Passive Assassin
Member
That man came at the end.