biosnake20
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cool retrospective vid of vanilla sf4 damage where 700 damage combos were common
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX2l7hXzLrg&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX2l7hXzLrg&feature=player_embedded
Super Street Fighter 4 |OT3| BACK OF THE BUS, SAGAT!
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Rice-Eater
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sambo said:
If you're talking about everybody in general, there are plenty of people playing both systems. It's hard to say which system has more. On GAF, it seems to be split pretty even I guess although some people(like myself) own both systems and play regularly on both.
As for the difference between the two, besides things such as graphics, the Xbox version runs a little faster. It's a tiny difference but can be a big deal for people who aren't use to it. That's not to say the Xbox verison is superior, just that you have to be prepared for it if you do feel a difference. Some people don't, some people do.
Rice-Eater
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Threi said:
True for the most part, but Cammy is one of the exceptions. Cammy got nerfed hard damage wise from Vanilla to Super when it came to her SRK, FADC, Ultra. Doing Cannon Spike, FADC, Cannon Spike, FADC, Ultra did 590 in Vanilla, now it does 410 in Super.
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Rocky_Balboa
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It's too long so I jumped around a little bit. Doesn't seem too interesting SSF4AE wise. They are talking about Topanga Charity Cup and stuff related to that.biosnake20 said:
http://www.capcom.co.jp/blog/sf4/development_blog/2011/04/12_3082.html
ONI
CHARACTER INTRODUCTION
-Kuruoshiki Oni (which I shall translate as Batshit-Insane Oni) was created to be beyond Shin Akuma
-Created using Akuma as a base, but because of his different appearance, techniques, properties, etc., he's pretty much an entirely different character
-Higher health, stun than Akuma
NORMAL ATTACKS
-Does not have close/far normals, similar to Makoto or Dudley
-About half of his normals are new
-Some of his normals are similar to Akuma's, while others are not, so try to figure out where and how to use them
st.HP
-Steps forward while doing an upward diagonal palm thrust
-Forces stand
-At close range, will combo with Tatsu
-Has better reach than st.LP and has a strong upward-reaching hitbox, so at the proper distance, can be used as anti-air
-6F start-up, 4F active, 17F recovery. Won't link from any of his normals, but since you can use it for an easy combo as part of Target Combo 2, it will get frequent usage
F+HP
-Takes a large step forward while doing a palm thrust to the midsection
-Has the longest horizontal reach of his normals
-Even on block it's difficult to punish because of the distance, so it's effective as a poke
-Has projectile properties, so can neutralize projectile attacks. Won't work against multi-hitting projectiles, however
-Super-cancellable
-11F startup, 6F active, 18F recovery; +0 on hit, -9 on block
st.MK
-At close range, does two hits
-Relatively fast start-up, and has reach, so you can use it as a poke, but use with caution, as it will whiff against crouching opponents from a distance
-First hit is special- and Super-cancellable.
-5F start-up, 1F active (first hit) 4F active (second), 14F recovery
-Can link from st.LP, other attacks
F+MK
-Does a spin while performing a forward roundhouse kick
-Has the second longest reach, after F+HP
-Different from F+HP, as it keeps Oni moving forward after the motion, so intentional whiffs can be an effective way to close in
-Rather slow start-up for a MK, so it's best to not abuse it
-12F start-up, 2F active, 13F recovery; +2 on hit, -2 on block
F+HK
-A high back roundhouse, in a similar motion to Ryu's st.HK
-Knocks down against air opponents, so you can follow up with certain specials in the corner
-Spaced properly, you can hit your opponent out of the start of a forward jump
cr.HK
-A crouched spinning sweep
-8F start-up, 2F active, 24F recovery
-Won't link with any of his normals, but has good reach and a strong hitbox
-On block, can be punished with Ultra Combos by nearly all characters, so it's best to use it from a far distance, where it's difficult to punish
UNIQUE ATTACKS AND TARGET COMBOS
-B+MP (Ganka Uchi)
-Fast, links from st.LP (and other attacks)
-Special- and super-cancellable
-TC1: F+LP → st.MP
-TC2: B+MP → st.HP
-Both are cancellable
-Can used for various combos, but since too many hits will affect total damage, use it based on the match-up and your own preference
SPECIAL ATTACKS
-Special moves: Gohadoken, Gorai Hadoken (Roaring Thunder Hadoken), Zanku Hadosho (air dash), Goshoryuken, Tatsumaki Zankukyaku, Air Tatsu, Sekisei Jiraiken (Red Star Landmine Fist, aka fist pound), Rakan Dantojin (Arhat Tower Slice Blade, aka palm slice).
-All except Zanku Hadosho have EX versions
-Tatsu and Palm Slice are Armor-Break
Explanation of some EX move properties:
EX Gohadoken
-The normal version is chargeable, will reach full-screen and hit twice, but the EX version already has those properties and is not chargeable
-Doesn't knock down ground opponents, so you can create various combos from FADCs
EX Rakan Dantojin (Palm slice)
-MK version has projectile-invincibility only during the forward movement at start-up, but the EX version is projectile-invincible until the end of active frames
-Slow technique, so if you're too far away, you'll go through the fireball but won't hit your opponent in time
EX Sekisei Jiraiken (Fist pound)
-Normal version is one hit, can be blocked low, but the EX version is two-hit, overhead on the first hit only
-Has a prolonged hitbox when his fist hits the ground, so depend on how it hits, it can be difficult to punish even when blocked
-Knocks down, so you can follow up the attack with a combo
SUPER COMBO
-Super Combo is Shun Goku Satsu (Raging Demon).
-Can also be done in the air, but only hit air opponents. Like the ground version, can be kara-cancelled
ULTRA COMBOS
-UC1 is Meido Gohado, UC2 is Tenchi Sokaigen
-UC1 does 350 damage from a distance, but 450 point-blank
-UC1 gives you access to Messatsu Gotenha (upward fireball version) and Messtasu Gozanku (air fireball version). Neither do particularly high damage, but find ways to use them and include them in your fighting strategy
-UC2 does high damage, is projectile-invincible
-At close range, a hit will lock your opponent in the cinematic
-Doesn't do much damage outside of the cinematic, so move in close when using the move
-Can be comboed from FADCs, so we recommend players who prefer damage to use this UC
-525 damage on a clean hit (i.e. the second most-damaging UC in the game, only surpassed by oiled Hakan's Oil Coaster)
OTHER
-Like Evil Ryu, the boss version in Arcade Mode has totally different properties
ONI
CHARACTER INTRODUCTION
-Kuruoshiki Oni (which I shall translate as Batshit-Insane Oni) was created to be beyond Shin Akuma
-Created using Akuma as a base, but because of his different appearance, techniques, properties, etc., he's pretty much an entirely different character
-Higher health, stun than Akuma
NORMAL ATTACKS
-Does not have close/far normals, similar to Makoto or Dudley
-About half of his normals are new
-Some of his normals are similar to Akuma's, while others are not, so try to figure out where and how to use them
st.HP
-Steps forward while doing an upward diagonal palm thrust
-Forces stand
-At close range, will combo with Tatsu
-Has better reach than st.LP and has a strong upward-reaching hitbox, so at the proper distance, can be used as anti-air
-6F start-up, 4F active, 17F recovery. Won't link from any of his normals, but since you can use it for an easy combo as part of Target Combo 2, it will get frequent usage
F+HP
-Takes a large step forward while doing a palm thrust to the midsection
-Has the longest horizontal reach of his normals
-Even on block it's difficult to punish because of the distance, so it's effective as a poke
-Has projectile properties, so can neutralize projectile attacks. Won't work against multi-hitting projectiles, however
-Super-cancellable
-11F startup, 6F active, 18F recovery; +0 on hit, -9 on block
st.MK
-At close range, does two hits
-Relatively fast start-up, and has reach, so you can use it as a poke, but use with caution, as it will whiff against crouching opponents from a distance
-First hit is special- and Super-cancellable.
-5F start-up, 1F active (first hit) 4F active (second), 14F recovery
-Can link from st.LP, other attacks
F+MK
-Does a spin while performing a forward roundhouse kick
-Has the second longest reach, after F+HP
-Different from F+HP, as it keeps Oni moving forward after the motion, so intentional whiffs can be an effective way to close in
-Rather slow start-up for a MK, so it's best to not abuse it
-12F start-up, 2F active, 13F recovery; +2 on hit, -2 on block
F+HK
-A high back roundhouse, in a similar motion to Ryu's st.HK
-Knocks down against air opponents, so you can follow up with certain specials in the corner
-Spaced properly, you can hit your opponent out of the start of a forward jump
cr.HK
-A crouched spinning sweep
-8F start-up, 2F active, 24F recovery
-Won't link with any of his normals, but has good reach and a strong hitbox
-On block, can be punished with Ultra Combos by nearly all characters, so it's best to use it from a far distance, where it's difficult to punish
UNIQUE ATTACKS AND TARGET COMBOS
-B+MP (Ganka Uchi)
-Fast, links from st.LP (and other attacks)
-Special- and super-cancellable
-TC1: F+LP → st.MP
-TC2: B+MP → st.HP
-Both are cancellable
-Can used for various combos, but since too many hits will affect total damage, use it based on the match-up and your own preference
SPECIAL ATTACKS
-Special moves: Gohadoken, Gorai Hadoken (Roaring Thunder Hadoken), Zanku Hadosho (air dash), Goshoryuken, Tatsumaki Zankukyaku, Air Tatsu, Sekisei Jiraiken (Red Star Landmine Fist, aka fist pound), Rakan Dantojin (Arhat Tower Slice Blade, aka palm slice).
-All except Zanku Hadosho have EX versions
-Tatsu and Palm Slice are Armor-Break
Explanation of some EX move properties:
EX Gohadoken
-The normal version is chargeable, will reach full-screen and hit twice, but the EX version already has those properties and is not chargeable
-Doesn't knock down ground opponents, so you can create various combos from FADCs
EX Rakan Dantojin (Palm slice)
-MK version has projectile-invincibility only during the forward movement at start-up, but the EX version is projectile-invincible until the end of active frames
-Slow technique, so if you're too far away, you'll go through the fireball but won't hit your opponent in time
EX Sekisei Jiraiken (Fist pound)
-Normal version is one hit, can be blocked low, but the EX version is two-hit, overhead on the first hit only
-Has a prolonged hitbox when his fist hits the ground, so depend on how it hits, it can be difficult to punish even when blocked
-Knocks down, so you can follow up the attack with a combo
SUPER COMBO
-Super Combo is Shun Goku Satsu (Raging Demon).
-Can also be done in the air, but only hit air opponents. Like the ground version, can be kara-cancelled
ULTRA COMBOS
-UC1 is Meido Gohado, UC2 is Tenchi Sokaigen
-UC1 does 350 damage from a distance, but 450 point-blank
-UC1 gives you access to Messatsu Gotenha (upward fireball version) and Messtasu Gozanku (air fireball version). Neither do particularly high damage, but find ways to use them and include them in your fighting strategy
-UC2 does high damage, is projectile-invincible
-At close range, a hit will lock your opponent in the cinematic
-Doesn't do much damage outside of the cinematic, so move in close when using the move
-Can be comboed from FADCs, so we recommend players who prefer damage to use this UC
-525 damage on a clean hit (i.e. the second most-damaging UC in the game, only surpassed by oiled Hakan's Oil Coaster)
OTHER
-Like Evil Ryu, the boss version in Arcade Mode has totally different properties
Rice-Eater
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Thanks again USD for translations. I'm more interested in Evil Ryu, but Oni is still a shoto so I'll definitely be giving him a shot as well. He definitely has some interesting moves that I would like to try out.
Professor Beef
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Danke, USD. Oni looks...weird, but in a good way.
sixteen-bit
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I like it!USD said:Here's a shot of Oni's alternate costume:
Much thanks for the translation too.
sixteen-bit
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I'd love to see Tokido's Yang in action.
Corky said:Want soo bad
That's hot, where can buy it?
edit: boo, it's in Europe.
http://www.shadaloo.eu/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_apparel.tpl&product_id=181&category_id=33&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=40
sixteen-bit
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so SF x TK looks sick as hell.
Kinda funny how juggle centric it is, but I'm sure I'll get used to it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_cdzWvVWRCI
Kinda funny how juggle centric it is, but I'm sure I'll get used to it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_cdzWvVWRCI
Aruarian Reflection
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AE PC version in July, hell yeah. Now I don't feel bad for buying a PCI card and an extra Madcatz stick
sixteen-bit
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I think I'll be building a new PC soon so I too can be hyped for dat AE PC
sixteen-bit
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Same here. Especially if they're just using SF4 character models.Imm0rt4l said:
Loving that Dinosaur stage lol.
I was referring to the plane in which the game is played, not the models. SFvT is like SF4 in that it's 3D models but played in a 2D plane, correct? I remember hearing something about a TvSF that would be played in 3D plane like Tekken but as I said I could be entirely wrong and misremembering.
ThatCrazyGuy
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The dinosaur stage is awesome. Makes me want primal rage.
I want a Gief/Marduk team. Hopefully Bruce is in too, so I can roll Adon/Bruce as well.
I want a Gief/Marduk team. Hopefully Bruce is in too, so I can roll Adon/Bruce as well.
kevo_huevo
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hey everyone. would it be possible to get an invite to psn chat? psn name is the same as gaf username. thanks, much appreciated.
OmnipotentO
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Dat DLC will be mine... followed by the PC version down the line...
June cant get here soon enough!!
June cant get here soon enough!!
Widdly Scuds
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Imm0rt4l said:
I, for one, welcome our dive-kicking overloards.
http://shoryuken.com/content/evo-2011-switches-super-street-fighter-4-arcade-edition-4205/
BotoxAgent
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Imm0rt4l said:
good decision, and it will surely attract more Japanese competitors now (hopefully)
sixteen-bit
Member
Nice to hear about AE at Evo. Now we just need that BBCS2 patch.
the_log_ride
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_dementia said:
When's this slated for release? 2012? RIP to your old awesome avatar.
DryEyeRelief
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sixteen-bit
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so good to see VF near the top againBadWolf said:
not that I'll ever get to play it
kevo_huevo
Member
Imm0rt4l said:
thanks. I'll try to be on tonight as well. also, don't be fooled by my PP, I have no idea how it got to 3k.
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