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Stop by the /r/SandersforPresident subreddit too if maybe you want to get more involved. Donating by itself is a huge help though of course!

(Is sharing this link allowed? I'm not breaking any rules right?)

I'll match whatever contribution you happen to make and I'll post proof of it to boot.

Yeah I was just browsing the sub-reddit. The sense of community and seeing people on Twitter and Reddit being happy is nice to see. I know the message so far on GAF is "Lol, doesn't matter Hillary is still leading.", but the other message of "With the support of people, and people actively helping, Bernie can win! We did this as a team!" is a bit nicer message to read. ;P

 

[Battersea Power Station]

Because the majority believe he will win, at this point he is damaging Hillary badly which then in turn damages her in the GE.

That's bullshit (sorry for the language) on a few different levels. One, the more she answers criticisms during the primary, the less those criticisms will be brought up in the general. Secondly, this is a democratic process. It is a process on which this country was largely founded. It is nearly reprehensible to suggest to people to withhold or alter their vote to appease another candidate or better another candidate's chances. Vote for who you want to be the President. That's the only "rule" there should be.

 

[egruntz]

Just voting for the first time ever!



I like Bernie but he seems too limited a candidate. Hillary seems like a more pragmatic candidate to me. Also his decision to completely abandon the south without much of a fight is really disconcerting to me, regardless of what he says when attempting to court the minority vote. And I'm white.

That's awesome. ^_^

More than most people care to do. I think if you go out and vote for the candidate you believe is the best choice for the country, you're doing your duty as a citizen. Hats off.

 

[Kickz]

Okay, so at what point is he going to actually be gaining delegates? Is that part of the revolution?

BernieMomentum starts here.

 

[Vampire On Titus]

Ugh... as if Reddit and Facebook weren't obnoxious enough with the Sanders love, this only gives them more (misinformed) ammo.

I know she is still poised to win the nomination though. Keep in mind kids Obama had a super close race in 2008 too.

We should be very cautious though because a Sanders nom against Trump is a win for the GOP. All they need is one ad that paints him a socialiat that will raise your taxes so "others" can go to free college is all it will take. Hilary is a known quantity at this point, theres nothing they can say that will phaze or hurt her now.

Anyway, congrats Bernard. You've successfully pulled the wool over the youths vote eyes.

lmfao

you should write for vox or daily beast.

 

[Epsilon-delta]

They are just statisticians. The source data has 21% lead by Clinton.

I would damn sure hope their model would put Clinton heavily up.

It's just funny to me that nate silver has now become the punching bag again. The GOP tried to demonize the guy back during Obama's run. Now a bunch of bernie supporters are falling for the same trap. Almost like they think he is cooking the books. He's not. That's what the numbers said.

All I read is projection in this post.

I'll repeat it one more time, no Bernie supporter expected for him to win the Dem nominee.

Everyone knows it was Hillary's the second she entered the race.

 

[Dennis]

Meanwhile in Idaho

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

That's because the "BernieBros" don't have the black culture thread to go and make fun of young white voters like the Hillary gaffers have.

Why are we making this about race?

 

[ShironRedshift]

Damn, Cruz came in second? I was hoping Kasich would hold on to that spot.

Makes me wonder if Kasich is going to drop out after Ohio's results come in after all considering he was pretty bullish on his prospects in Michigan and if he couldn't even pull off second place here, there's really no point in him even trying the brokered convention approach. Going to be interesting to see what happens here and if it would just be better for him to cut his losses than risk potential further humiliation.

 

[Black Republican]

Cruz wins Idaho, no surprise

 

[MThanded]

You virtually every single poll available stating Hillary won. One poll could be wrong, two polls are encouraging. 20 polls are almost a certainty. Which is how 99% chance happen.

But I'm pulling my hair out here when someone proclaimed, "LOL, Nate should have told us Sanders is going to win." When all available data, none of it showed inclination toward Sanders' victory.

Some people seem to believe that 538 just makes everything up. It would be a shocker if they weren't wrong every now and then.

All I read is projection in this post.

I'll repeat it one more time, no Bernie supporter expected for him to win the Dem nominee.

Everyone knows it was Hillary's the second she entered the race.

What a pivot. What are we discussing now?

 

[Leona Lewis]

lol MSNBC

That awkward silence.

 

[Maxim726X]

BernieMomentum starts here.

But it didn't. He is further behind now than he was 12 hours ago.

 

[MotherFan]

After tonight pretty stoked to see Sanders win MI even if he is still far behind. Excited to vote for him in MO next week. Alot of my friends feeling the bern too!

 

[Pryce]

That was fun, gaf.

I love ya Bernie.

 

[Miles X]

That's bullshit (sorry for the language) on a few different levels. One, the more she answers criticisms during the primary, the less those criticisms will be brought up in the general. Secondly, this is a democratic process. It is a process on which this country was largely founded. It is nearly reprehensible to suggest to people to withhold or alter their vote to appease another candidate or better another candidate's chances. Vote for who you want to be the President. That's the only "rule" there should be.

That's all well and good, but Bernie is setting the stage for exactly the same attacks Trump is going to lay on her. I get they're in a battle against each other, and stuff is said (as it was with Hillary Vs Obama) but this is one that'll be hard for her to come back on, given it's such a huge thing this time around.

I didn't say anything about who people should vote for, I'm talking specifically about the damage Bernie is doing.

 

[Already Torn]

Why are we making this about race?

Because that's what the data reflects!

 

[alternade]

Uh, do people realize that after tonight Clinton already 1,215 delegates to Sander's 566?

She needs 2,383 total for the nom, and she's more than half way there.

This is why I'm not entirely pressed about tonight. Would I have liked her to win? Of course! But the numbers don't lie.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

Well, nice to see people getting out to vote when they've been as screwed as Michigan has. Good energy, and good stuff for the Bernie fans.

I can only hope these people get out and vote Democrat for the GE.

 

[Valhelm]

I hope Bernie stays in until Wisconsin's primary since it'll mean more liberal voters in our spring election.

He'll stay in until the convention, although tonight may be the high water mark of his campaign.

 

[mo60]

Since Hawaii seems to be the only race left to determine who do you guys think will win it on the republican side tonight?

 

[BowieZ]

Uh, do people realize that after tonight Clinton already 1,215 delegates to Sander's 566?

She needs 2,383 total for the nom, and she's more than half way there.

That includes superdelegates, almost all of which she has already strategically claimed in advance to decrease hope for Bernie supporters.

The rest need to be earned and there's a chance albeit small to recover and make the superidiots redundant.

 

[egruntz]

Cruz wins Idaho, no surprise

I'm actually very surprised! My family lives in Idaho and from what they told me Trump should have been the clear winner. But that's just coming from places like Nampa, Meridian, closer to Boise. Maybe it's different in the panhandle?

Interesting.

 

[Kickz]

But it didn't. He is further behind now than he was 12 hours.

As Silver said he turned around a 19 point deficit in Michigan.

Hillsplain that

 

[ApharmdX]

Ugh... as if Reddit and Facebook weren't obnoxious enough with the Sanders love, this only gives them more (misinformed) ammo.

I know she is still poised to win the nomination though. Keep in mind kids Obama had a super close race in 2008 too.

We should be very cautious though because a Sanders nom against Trump is a win for the GOP. All they need is one ad that paints him a socialiat that will raise your taxes so "others" can go to free college is all it will take. Hilary is a known quantity at this point, theres nothing they can say that will phaze or hurt her now.

Anyway, congrats Bernard. You've successfully pulled the wool over the youths vote eyes.

You seem mad. Don't be mad. Discussion and leftward movement is good for the Democratic Party. Clinton will win in the end but Bernie is doing an invaluable service to the party and the nation.

 

[JP_]

All 20 polls available say Hillary would win. One poll could be wrong, two polls are encouraging. 20 polls are almost a certainty. Which is how 99% chance happen.

But I'm pulling my hair out here when someone proclaimed, "LOL, Nate should have told us Sanders is going to win." When all available data, none of it showed inclination toward Sanders' victory.

My post was only a few sentences and one of them included "There's no way for them to predict Sanders' win" and yet here you are.

 

[boiled goose]

But it didn't. He is further behind now than he was 12 hours ago.

Look at the states coming up.
The deficit matters, but momentum still does. Wins on the 15th would be huge.

 

[noshten]

Uh, do people realize that after tonight Clinton has 1,215 delegates to Sander's 566?

She needs 2,383 total for the nom, and she's more than half way there.

The good news about all of this is that Sander's run proves that liberal positions aren't political poison. So hopefully we'll get more liberal politicians running for office in the future.

So super delegates are delegates for Clinton and if Sanders makes up a 200 delegate deficit they would vote for Clinton regardless?

If you really want to hand Trump the presidency this is definitely the play for the DNC

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

Because that's what the data reflects!

I get that. But talking about one race group laughing at another in GAF threads?

I haven't seen it. I'd hope that doesn't actually occur. Just seems an odd charge to level.

 

[Epsilon-delta]

Some people seem to believe that 538 just makes everything up. It would be a shocker if they weren't wrong every now and then.

What a pivot. What are we discussing now?

What are you discussing with your general accusations about Bernie supporters concerning Nate Silver?

Again, is Nate family?

 

[Wanda/Wander]

As someone that's still on the fence, I got to admit Bernie's upset tonight is pretty amazing.

 

[benicillin]

lmao all this salt is too much for me I'm gonna get bloated. YAAAAS BERNIE.

 

[Damaniel]

Reddit is going to be insufferable for the next few days. Blegh.

I unsubscribed from /r/politics months ago. Pro-Bernie stories are good, but that subreddit had 100% of it's front page with either pro-Bernie or anti-Hillary posts for weeks on end. Hard to keep up with the greater political picture when you're trying to read inside an echo chamber.

No salt here - Bernie won this one legit and he should be proud of it. I'm not sure how or if this will affect anything next week, but things will certainly be interesting.

 

[MThanded]

As Silver said he turned around a 19 point deficit in Michigan.

Hillsplain that

Fam your posts read like they came out of a meme generator.

Nate seems to believe the polls were inaccurate. I'd believe it too as Bernie's internal polling only put Hillary up by single digits on Friday.

 

[Abounder]

Miracle on ice, impressive turnout for Bernie. This election is about bringing jobs back to the USofA

 

[ApharmdX]

Is MI the first state that's more than 10% black that Bernie has won? If so, that makes tonight's win even sweeter.

 

[BowieZ]

lmao all this salt is too much for me I'm gonna get bloated. YAAAAS BERNIE.

You forgot the extra capital S. There's usually at least 2, right?

 

[metalslimer]

So super delegates are delegates for Clinton and if Sanders makes up a 200 delegate deficit they would vote for Clinton regardless?

If he did that it would be miraculous and he would need to dominate states going forward and not win by 3

 

[Testicular Sound Express]

Just voting for the first time ever!



I like Bernie but he seems too limited a candidate. Hillary seems like a more pragmatic candidate to me. Also his decision to completely abandon the south without much of a fight is really disconcerting to me, regardless of what he says when attempting to court the minority vote. And I'm white.

lol @ people still saying this.

 

[eyeball_kid]

Just voting for the first time ever!

I like Bernie but he seems too limited a candidate. Hillary seems like a more pragmatic candidate to me. Also his decision to completely abandon the south without much of a fight is really disconcerting to me, regardless of what he says when attempting to court the minority vote. And I'm white.

Bernie abandoned the south after he put a lot of effort financially into South Carolina and didn't get the traction he needed. Despite his sizeable war chest he does have limited funds and decided it was better to focus on other states where the money could make more difference.

And congrats on being a first-time voter. It's a great feeling.

 

[Maxim726X]

As Silver said he turned around a 19 point deficit in Michigan.

Hillsplain that

So because he is less behind than most people thought he would be, it's a victory?

I mean, if losing less convincingly is a victory I guess he wins? Congrats?

 

[Steel]

This is why I'm not entirely pressed about tonight. Would I have liked her to win? Of course! But the numbers don't lie.

She did win the night. That 80% in Mississippi gives her a decent net positive of delegates where Bernie only got 3 more delegates than Clinton in Michigan. But, you know, the polls were wrong! Could be anyone's race.

.
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.

 

[Kickz]

That includes superdelegates, almost all of which she has already strategically claimed in advance to decrease hope for Bernie supporters.

The rest need to be earned and there's a chance albeit small to recover and make the superidiots redundant.

Yup, counting those morons now is propaganda.
And helps the inevitability narrative.

 

[OpinionatedCyborg]

Since Hawaii seems to be the only race left to determine who do you guys think will win it on the republican side tonight?

I went with Cruz at first... then I learned Rubio's the only one who's campaigned there and switched to him... now, after seeing him get wiped out everywhere else tonight... Cruz will probably win. But I dunno -- zero polls out of Hawaii, and it's a closed caucus, so Trump should do poorly.

My predictions so far:
Mississippi: Trump
Michigan: Trump
Idaho: Cruz

 

[nib95]

Ugh... as if Reddit and Facebook weren't obnoxious enough with the Sanders love, this only gives them more (misinformed) ammo.

I know she is still poised to win the nomination though. Keep in mind kids Obama had a super close race in 2008 too.

We should be very cautious though because a Sanders nom against Trump is a win for the GOP. All they need is one ad that paints him a socialiat that will raise your taxes so "others" can go to free college is all it will take. Hilary is a known quantity at this point, theres nothing they can say that will phaze or hurt her now.

Anyway, congrats Bernard. You've successfully pulled the wool over the youths vote eyes.

Bloody hell at the condescension in some of these posts. My eyes rolled so hard they almost took my head with them.

Stop assuming that Trump would automatically win against Bernie, that it's some sort of absolute forgone conclusion. It's not. In case you didn't realise, a bloody Socialist is fending for presidency against an establishment heavy hitter, and he's actually doing pretty well. You can't say that America as a whole will definitely be put off by his policies, any more than we can about the majority of America being put off by Trumps lies, arrogance, fraud, racism or whatever else. I truly believe Trump has far more chinks in his armor that could be exploited to drive in deaths blows, than Bernie does.

Bernie hasn't pulled the wool over anyone's eyes, the problem is you have a defeatist attitude that has no actual merit or foundation, and is instead fuelling pessimism based purely on assumption. I'd prefer it if people voted not based on fearmomgering and assumption, but on the policies and ideals they most agree with.

 

[Madness]

I mean, do you think those vote/ would go to Trump?

No. But I don't think you're magically going to see millions of Hillary voters just go to Bernie, especially after a long and contentious election.

What made Obama so dominant in 2008? He captured a lot of Republican and independent voters. I mean when democratic turnout is decade lows you will find it tough for Berne to win the general. Historically even though people say otherwise, very passionate supporters of a specific candidate rarely go and vote for the other candidate just to placate those who say this candidate is better than the rest. It's a legitimate concern. Of course a lot of democratic voters will support either candidate especially against a blowhard like Trump. But I can also see many voters just not vote or be disenfranchised. Don't think it'll be as big an issue but coupled with already low voter turnout in these primaries it's a concern.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

As Silver said he turned around a 19 point deficit in Michigan.

Hillsplain that

Can you please not?

That's as stupid as "Berniebros."

 

[Brinbe]

Biggest stories tonight imo. The barrage on Trump this past week didn't work, Bernie winning Michigan is a big deal but the liberal media will kill that momentum fast and Rubio crapped the bed.

What? The liberal media is what's keeping him in the horserace in the first place and giving him this absurd notion of momentum. Once the delegate math really comes to reality, they'll drop him. Same thing happened to Rubio. He's in it, till he's not.

 

[MThanded]

What are you discussing with your general accusations about Bernie supporters concerning Nate Silver?

Again, is Nate family?

I'm black. As far as I know Nate is not part of my family.

I am a logical person and not a fan of people not understanding logical things.

 

[Epsilon-delta]

I unsubscribed from /r/politics months ago. Pro-Bernie stories are good, but that subreddit had 100% of it's front page with either pro-Bernie or anti-Hillary posts for weeks on end. Hard to keep up with the greater political picture when you're trying to read inside an echo chamber.

No salt here - Bernie won this one legit and he should be proud of it. I'm not sure how or if this will affect anything next week, but things will certainly be interesting.

There is no salt or shouldn't be for that matter. Trump's populism has me concerned to be honest.

Hilldawg will need all of our support in the general.