perfectchaos007
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I think super tuesday will wrap up the nominees on both sides. Embrace the Trump v. Clinton election folks
Super Tuesday 2016 |OT| The Final Incursion is a double Incursion (Mar 5-15 contests)
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RPGCrazied
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The debates are going to be something else. I can't imagine what Trump is going to pull on her.
plagiarize
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I've been embraced it ever since it became apparent that Nate Silver was very very wrong. I've been embracing it ever since it became apparent that it's Cruz or Rubio should Trump not get the nomination.
I'm about to sign a mortgage. We aren't going to have as much money to spend on cable and video games this year. This is going to be the best live drama of our times.
RPGCrazied
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I would. Then get out and stump for her. Then Obama comes out, and who else?
We can do this.
I guess he depends on how much money he keeps bringing in after Super Tuesday makes it even more crystal clear he has no shot at winning, and how much he believes his own nonsense hot air about his so-called "political revolution."
I think the Democrat race may drag out for a while, but I can't see how Trump doesn't get the Republican Nomination. It looks like he is going to win everything tomorrow except Texas, and even that could go Trump in the end.
gutter_trash
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Truth.
The sooner Bernie drops out, the sooner Obama can give his blessings and endorse Hillary
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
It would be best for the party for him to drop out and endorse Hillary. I feel like his supporters need as much time as possible to warm to the idea of needing to vote for Hillary.
His political revolution died when he couldn't get young SC voters to primary for him.
metalslimer
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The republican race will go the convention or at least go father than the Dem race. Once Bernie sanders knows it's done he will concede and endorse Clinton to begin the race against Trump
I mean he's not even really a Democrat and never has been, so the idea that he's gonna be a reliably good Hillary supporter on the stump is not something I'd even bank on. I bet he'll endorse her, but not enthusiastically and not in a way that tells his supporters to back off.
But that's alright, because there have been plenty of enthusiastic campaigns like Bernie's, and each time their supporters swear they won't turn out if it's not their candidate. It's empty rhetoric.
Sohter.Nura
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Ya'll crazy if you think Rubio and Cruz will drop out after Super Tuesday. Maybe Cruz, but Rubio has the entire establishment and team of donors behind him. He'll drag it out all the way to the RNC and try to win the nomination there, unless Trump gets the amount of votes he needs.
Personally, I think Cruz would drop out if the establishment thought Rubio could take Trump out, but I think at this point they realize they need the 3rd party candidate more so to spread Trump's delegates, if it's a 2 man race he will most definitely get the amount of delegates to not even go to a convention.
Personally, I think Cruz would drop out if the establishment thought Rubio could take Trump out, but I think at this point they realize they need the 3rd party candidate more so to spread Trump's delegates, if it's a 2 man race he will most definitely get the amount of delegates to not even go to a convention.
plagiarize
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Cruz doesn't give a shit what the establishment Republicans want. Ask him. Or ask them. Cruz isn't staying in because the establishment want him to. He doesn't give a shit. All he gives a shit about, is bringing America 'back' to God, as defined by his specific flavor of Christianity.
Sohter.Nura
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I know that. But he needs funding from somewhere, and all the donors are betting on all candidates. My point is, before, they thought it had to be a 2 man race to take Trump down. I think at this point they realize that if Marco or Cruz drop out, enough of their votes will go to Trump to ensure he gets the amount of votes he needs to not go to the convention.
I know Cruz doesn't care about the establishment, but I can guarantee that if he had enormous pressure from donors to drop out, I know he would.
plagiarize
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There are plenty of donors that'll keep him going. They're the same donors that got all those Tea Party candidates elected in the first place.
gutter_trash
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partially he does because Cruz is an oil man and is beholden to big oil
Sohter.Nura
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Why should he enthusiastically support Hillary? Hillary is kind of the opposite of enthusiastic.
Because it increases the chances of her winning which mean's the Obama Legacy is protected and expanded upon, the Supreme Court turns liberal and the stage is set for someone like Bernie (but younger and more politically flexible) to come and push forth that agenda in the future. I mean, it kind of obvious why and Bernie knows this too. He said he would do so himself. If he went back on his word he'd look like an opportunistic dick who didn't care about the party or his revolution.
plagiarize
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And for Clinton.
maquiladora
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It's proportional. The bigger the winning margin, the more delegates you get.
Dash_Riprock
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Same here.
plagiarize
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Sanders will definitely give his best efforts to encourage his supporters out to vote. I'm not being given much confidence in his ability to do that though.
MisterShine
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Yep. Can't believe I'm saying this but... I'm happy Trump won. For a few reasons, but most of all because the debates will be awesome. I'm just trying not to think too hard about if he wins.
Pop-O-Matic
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I've been thinking this for a while, that Cruz, despite all the hate the establishment has for him, might be their last hope to take down Trump, since he's the only one with any legitimate wins under his belt as well as having some extremist/anti-establishment swagger.
IrishNinja
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well, i did say id want trump over cruz, anyway...still, the Secret Wars motif here has this as my favorite poliGAF thread so far, props OP
plagiarize
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A national 'Vote Cruz for President' campaign, is a sure fire way to get the people who don't yet know Ted Cruz, to vehemently hate him.
Exactly. All this "Marcomentum" bs has amounted to nothing.
I am pretty sure most of the GOP establishment donor pool and leaders would rather have Trump then Cruz, its why so many are hoping for Rubio despite it not sticking, no one likes Cruz in leadership, no one does. In fact if he somehow stuck it out even past super tuesday then that would produce a candidate to the right of even Trump on some of his most tenuous issues making Trump look more presidential by comparison. They need Cruz out of the race to have any hope of bringing him down.
Trail Guide
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Is this KKK shit hurting Trump's numbers at all? Will he still win big tomorrow or will is close even just a little?
I remember eight years ago when the Republicans got destroyed on election night and people wonders if the party was dead. Obviously that didn't happen then but maybe it will after tomorrow.
Also has Bloomberg officially decided to not run?
I remember eight years ago when the Republicans got destroyed on election night and people wonders if the party was dead. Obviously that didn't happen then but maybe it will after tomorrow.
Also has Bloomberg officially decided to not run?
Sohter.Nura
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I get it, but forced to being enthusiastic for Hillary is the exact reason I don't like her and maybe Bernie and probably other voters as well. She sounds so fake in everything she says. Her positions have flip flopped for political gains. She's in bed with Wallstreet and the banks. I don't think Bernie should care about the party, the democrats largely don't represent its constituents much like the Republican party. Why should we care about a party that largely doesn't care about us?
Don't put that curse on us, we already have enough crazies here :<
plagiarize
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Your concentration of crazies per square mile is about as diluted as the active ingredients in homeopathy. You wouldn't even know he was there.
Darryl M R
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Please Bernie do not run as an Independent and take votes away from Hillary. 
I don't want to know how hard it was to deal with having a pre-condition that disqualifies you from health insurance.
I don't want to know how hard it was to deal with having a pre-condition that disqualifies you from health insurance.plagiarize
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Please Bernie do not run as an Independent and take votes away from Hillary.
He's on record recognizing that a democrat needs to win in November. I have no doubt that he'll do everything he can to help make that happen.
JetBlackPanda
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maquiladora
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We'll find out tomorrow night. My guess is that it will have little/no visible impact. He seems to be able to brush off any controversy and with this fast moving news cycle there will be some new topic dominating the headlines soon anyway.
User 463088
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Bernie has said he will not run as an Independent. He's not stupid, and I know he wants what is best for the American people. He knows that a GOP presidency would be disastrous.
IF the polls are accurate, it looks like Hillary will leave Texas and Georgia with a 96-100 delegate advantage just from those two states. They could tie in all 9 other states, and she would still have that lead. (Of course, we know there are states they won't tie in, but just saying.) Bernie absolutely must keep Hillary non-viable in Vermont.
Pop-O-Matic
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Disagree. With how far right Cruz is, I don't see a scenario where the majority of his supporters don't immediately jump on the Trump Shuttle if Cruz drops, even if he directly endorses Rubio. Conversely, Rubio & Kasich's supporters would almost certainly jump to Cruz since he'd be the only "establishment" candidate left, making for what would effectively be an even fight between him and Trump. And while the GOP donors might have issues with Cruz, at the end of the day he's a true believer who'll tow the party line, even if it's to ridiculous extremes, while Trump is only in it for his own ego and has no real guarantee of how he'd run anything. They need to swallow the bitter pill and accept that he's basically their last, best hope at a proper GOP candidate
and a President Hilary Clinton
Voysa Reezun
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Boy, how awful a candidate is Marco Rubio? Just abysmal.
The GOP had about fifteen people up there - Trump, the charismatic populist and fourteen garbage dumps with shitty ideas. People talk about the Democratic Party not having a deep bench, but someone like, say, Kirsten Gillibrand is about a billion times better than anyone the GOP can trot out here.
I look forward to hot garbage like Nikki Haley being paraded out in 2020 to be exposed as well.
The GOP had about fifteen people up there - Trump, the charismatic populist and fourteen garbage dumps with shitty ideas. People talk about the Democratic Party not having a deep bench, but someone like, say, Kirsten Gillibrand is about a billion times better than anyone the GOP can trot out here.
I look forward to hot garbage like Nikki Haley being paraded out in 2020 to be exposed as well.
Nah, not in the primary.
aronnov reborn
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I guess I have to vote Rubio tomorrow in Tennessee.. I dont see anything derailing the Trump Train though.
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