Melkezadek
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I kinda hope so. Maybe it'll get people who'll refuse to vote off their asses.
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I kinda hope so. Maybe it'll get people who'll refuse to vote off their asses.
Grover Cleveland
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Not much and she shouldn't IMO
Politically, she doesn't gain much in terms of votes from having him on the ticket. His base is solidly Democrat who were probably going to already vote for her anyway (even the stragglers will come around eventually by November). He doesn't offer that much crossover appeal with Indies or RINOs
In terms of policy, having his liberal voice in the Senate is much more important long term than having it be second chair in the White House.
Veritigo_X
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I think that demographic is much smaller and less useful for winning the presidency compared to people that would come out and support a local politician in a swing state.
If Bernie truly split the votes (likely not) or threatened to run third party (he's not) then I could see a VP nom but I think Hillary would nominate a fresh liberal darling/a minority candidate to lock up those votes.
Donald Trump will probably nominate someone straight out of Clown College.
BoboBrazil
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Hillary needs a young VP, preferably hispanic. I'm not a fan of Castro though.
gutter_trash
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0, zero, ziltch
a) Bernie is not a Democrat and has minimal party loyalty
b) Bernie is OLDER than she is.
c) the party wants a young rising star and shape him with enough Star Power to be the face of the future
Democrats need a youthful make over. a Younger VEEP is inevitable
half a moon
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I'm too lazy to go vote for Bernie in Temnessee. Even tho my location is literally down the steet at a church. I don't want to leave the house.
superdeluxe
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Less than 1%. Cabinet level is a possibility, but not sure which position.
If I was her, I wouldn't. There are other young and exciting VP candidates out there. Obama didn't choose Clinton, Romney didn't choose Santorum, McCain didn't choose Romney, Bush didn't choose McCain and Gore didn't choose Bradley etc. Clinton will want someone who can work with her.
plagiarize
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Go vote. I say that as a Clinton supporter. Young people will only start seeing politicians give a fuck about them and which way they want the country to go if they get out and vote. Reliably.
The fuck is wrong with you, man? Go vote. I just did. It was a three minute drive, the line was like 10 people long, whole thing took less than 20 minutes from the time I put my pants on until I took my pants off.
Macho Madness
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Kerry picked Edwards which seemed like a good idea at the time. Edwards appeared to have a bright future in the party.
plagiarize
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How likely is Warren as a VR pick?
The Lamonster
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What's the point of "keeping tabs" on each specific state? Candidates either win or lose a state, by a certain percentage of points, and that's all that really matters when it comes to results. It's also healthy to have a general idea of how the delegate system works in primaries.
cartoon_soldier
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You don't pick an older VP than yourselves.
Lord_Byron28
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She didn't want to run for president because she felt she could accomplish more in Congress. I don't think she'd want to be VP.
Macho Madness
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Even less likely than Sanders. She's better off in the Senate, has no desire to be in the executive branch and is not much younger than Hillary.
Veritigo_X
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VR? 100%.
Go vote. At the very least your vote cancles out some crazy racist shitbag that thinks Armageddon is right around the corner.
Perform an epic block.
Melkezadek
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Is Obama older than Biden?
teruterubozu
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Obama fucked up then.
More likely than Bernie, imo, but don't count on it. I think Warren wants to stay in the Senate. She's more useful there.
DeviantBoi
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I'd suggest Elizabeth Warren, but she backs Sanders, so she would probably not accept it.
There are no laws that prohibit Biden from being VP for a third term.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
More likely than Bernie, but also unlikely. Ideally, they want a male and younger than Clinton.
People like Warren and Sanders can do more outside of the VP position, honestly.
Veritigo_X
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She does? When did she endorse him? That should help Bernie win MA.
BoboBrazil
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There has to be a contrast. If you are old you need someone young. If you are young you need someone older. Hillary needs someone younger. It's looking like it will be Castro unless there is a surprise.
Voysa Reezun
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I don't see how they possibly contradict.
Haley is pandering, and her decision to take down the Confederate flag was pandering in the wake of tragedy (and was read as such by many of her voters if you read through the reaction at the time).
But even though she thinks that taking down the Confederate flag gives her some "not a racist" bonafides, she still supports GOP policies that enshrine racism. Her decision about the flag also comes off as less-than-noble when you consider how she is at the forefront of a push to show that the face of the GOP isn't necessarily old white dudes (which leads to cringeworthy stuff like the "Benetton ad" comment).
None of that contradicts at all. I'm baffled by the thought that it does.
DeviantBoi
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Julian Castro?
He's from Texas. Doubt it would turn it into a blue state, but it would get a lot of those latino voters.
DeviantBoi
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She hasn't endorsed him per se, but she backs some of his policies.
gutter_trash
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Young Presidential Candidates pick Old VEEPs Obama-Biden, JFK-LBJ
Old Presidential Candidates pick Young VEEPs McCain-Palin, Bush-Quayle,
the closest young Presidential Candidate who picked an almost as young VEEP was Clinton-Gore
Castro has been getting a similar level of Grooming as Obama has gotten in 2004's Keynote address building up to 2008.
brainchild
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I never argued otherwise (nor did the poster you originally responded to).
We were having a completely different discussion.
Viability varies from state to state and has nothing to do with winning the overall nomination.
My point is that he's running on the principle of representing the respective people of every state, regardless if that results in a win or not.
You may not like it, but the DNC Primary process allows this to happen. They could just select the nominee once it's clear who that person will be, but they don't. He's within his right to take advantage of that (and so is Hillary).
Vanillalite
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Do we have any mid day exit polling?
Veritigo_X
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Her state is closely contested at the moment. Her endorsement could help him Bernie it, why hasn't she? Backing "some policies" doesn't really mean anything.
Macho Madness
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We will get early exit polling about an hour before polls close. Look at about 6PM ET.
Hmm. Former San Antonio mayor.
She's not going to pick Warren, even if Warren were open to it (and who, mercifully, is not).
You're more likely to see someone like Terry McAuliffe than a Warren.
Not that it matters. VP picks are basically a one-off press release, and short of picking a Palin, it won't really factor into most anyone's decision. Besides, she's already got a VP and he's been riding shotgun the whole time.
You're more likely to see someone like Terry McAuliffe than a Warren.
Not that it matters. VP picks are basically a one-off press release, and short of picking a Palin, it won't really factor into most anyone's decision. Besides, she's already got a VP and he's been riding shotgun the whole time.
superdeluxe
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I'd like Wesley Clark for VP, but if not than then maybe DefMin.
boiled goose
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Wasn't arguing! Just commenting.
Warren is playing some weird kind of long game by holding off her endorsement to either candidate.
Either that or something weird going on behind the scenes.
Yes! Voting for the losing candidate or even voting no preference is better than not voting. The larger of a base politicians have to cater to, the less extreme they can be.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I think the logic is that he is younger and the Dems can use him to play the long game with the southern red States with growing Hispanic populations. Turn some of the red into purple or even blue in the next decade. All according to keikaku.
Plus it would alleviate some of Hillary's disconnect with younger voters. He'll have an easier time pretending to be hip compared to her.
BoboBrazil
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Donald Trump's daughter and grandkids are Jewish http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/318770/trumps-strong-jewish-ties/
Shows how ridiculous the kkk thing is.
Shows how ridiculous the kkk thing is.
aronnov reborn
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Just punched my Republican ticket in Tennessee.
gutter_trash
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Trump is playing a WWE character to a tee, almost never breaking Kayfabe
Veritigo_X
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For who? If you don't mind me asking.
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