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Supergirl S2 |OT| The Sky's the Limit - Mondays 8/7c on The CW
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Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
The only thing that felt off for me was Superman being upset about the DEO keeping kryptonite on hand. I understand he's worried about his and Kara's life, but he has to understand that the world needs some type of safeguard against them going rogue. I mean Kara literally went rogue last season lol.
Especially since we've had iterations of Superman that give kryptonite to trusted allies so just there is that extra protection.
StarCreator
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It's interesting how Kara knows they have kryptonite and just doesn't care. Also, Clark apparently has no problem with Kara working for the DEO, even doing nothing to persuade her that she should decline to work with them too. Seems like if he thinks the DEO's possession of kryptonite is a dealbreaker then he would try to get Kara out too.
Also thought the awed reaction to him setting foot on base was a bit odd considering everyone already saw him brought in as a disembodied boot at the end of last season, which was literally yesterday for the characters.
FaustsBoon
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I think its more of a compliment to the less heavy-handed, and more realistic feminism of this season that Superman respects Kara enough to support her choices even if he disagrees with them.
Man... I can only speak for myself, but for me every benchmark for a Superman is, "Can I imagine him being the hero... of heroes?" and Tyler nailed it last night. This felt like the best depiction of Superman outside of the comics since Reeve, for me.
I think Superman holding a grudge makes sense when you go back 10+ years, when he's (as far as he knows) the only Kryptonian around and they've found the first chunk of Kryptonite in history. When your ally's first reaction is "hmm let's keep that 'murder Clark' rock around just in case," I can understand getting pissed.
Now that there's lots of it around and lots of bad guys who are vulnerable to it, though, it's a lot less reasonable.
Now that there's lots of it around and lots of bad guys who are vulnerable to it, though, it's a lot less reasonable.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I expected a serviceable Superman. Good enough for a guest spot. But he exceeded my expectations. Clark Kent and Superman were done pitch perfect, especially for this show.
We got a charming Superman who is actively intelligent. I have zero complaints about his performance or 99% of the way he was written. His feud with Martian Manhunter seems a little contrived, but even that I can let slide if it gets them in each other's faces.
And bats are able to bite them too, apparently.
At the least, my own takeaway is that maybe Superman is taking more issue with how much of it they have on hand.
Septimus Prime
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That family that's moving back to Gotham is going to get fucked. Batman isn't going to shield you from a falling building, guys.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
So is the show "Superman and Supergirl" now, or will they just write Superman off in a few episodes?
PhoncipleBone
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This is the staff at the other headquarters. The underground bunker people in season 1 were maybe used to it.
He still lives in Metropolis. He might show up occasionally the way that Lois' sister did in season 1.
That's why I said Superman. It's allowed with other characters but Superman is treated differently on this front. As soon as he has that costume he is suppose to be the experienced, confident, no mistakes version of the character. Anything other then that causes the "not my Superman" talk to start. When the discussions start the core issue is allowing Superman to be an actual character with development vs being a symbol and an ideal that is static. For some he must and only be the ideal. I think he can be that ideal and have real character development but I've found those that want him to just be that symbol are pretty loud.
firehawk12
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Ah, when he said he was going to stick around, I just assumed it meant he was joining the cast or something.
StarCreator
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I'd have to review the mentions of it in early S1 but the DEO had known about Fort Rozz for quite some time prior to the start of the series. I think it's reasonable to conclude that Clark was also made aware at that time.
That's the thing, though. The DEO, as much good as they do and stand for under J'onn's watch, is still a government body. And they could be co-opted or otherwise have their hands forced just because someone else higher up on the food chain says so. We just saw that kind of thing happen (briefly) with General Lane, last season, and I wouldn't be surprised this whole thing comes up again with Cadmus, next week (assuming the fact that they're just another secretly funded government agency rolls over here to this universe).
I feel Supe-baby has every right to give J'onn the side eye, even if the Martian is in the right, too. There's a difference between giving someone like Batman, a largely independent identity, the Kryptonite Ring and a government facility holding stores of weaponized Kryptonite.
PhoncipleBone
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Miley Cyrus criticizes Supergirl for having "girl" in the title.
I do appreciate that the article points out how the pilot episode tackled that question.
I do appreciate that the article points out how the pilot episode tackled that question.
Jorok Goldblade
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So Winn's replacing Agent Vasquez after she defected to SHIELD?
PhoncipleBone
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That's a Winn for the DEO.
OdysseusVA
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Razgriz-Specter
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Felicity was a great character at first but once they started that bounce she immediately went down hill.
Stallion Dan
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Superman doesn't like it being in control of the government. Seems like he would be OK with it in trusted individuals hands.
Rapscallion
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It was a good episode, and I think he plays a good enough superman. It doesn't take much to be a good superman in comparison to the dreariness of snyderverse Superman, who is void of anything resembling charm. Basically any iteration of Superman that isn't constantly bruiting is better by default and a more happy-go-lucky version of superman fits SuperGirl's world nicely.
Not the goofiest thing they've done with Jimmy, but an odd choice
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/1...n?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/1...n?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter
Thats a fucking stupid complaint lol. If she actually watched the show they tackled this in the first episode.
whoa
BrokenFiction
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I'm OK with this. Shake it up.
MHWilliams
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Yup.
BluenoseGames
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Yay Jimmy and Kara drama -_-
Rapscallion
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Welcome to the Arrowverse where is everyone is a hero!
YOU GET A COSTUME! YOU GET A COSTUME!
OdysseusVA
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Should have gone to Diggle, but whatever. Dont be terrible.
Does Winn become Elastic Man?
BrokenFiction
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DON'T TEASE ME
dead souls
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Didn't she just make a show with Woody Allen? I'm not really interested in her judgement on this, or any other, matter.
Rapscallion
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Shazam. Then maybe he'll grow into a big boy that Kara will actually love.
Jorok Goldblade
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I remember the old Superdickery site. This doesn't even crack the Top 100 of goofiest things they've done with Jimmy.
Nope. Winn's Braniac 5. And Diggle is John Stewart.
Winn's one of my favorite characters now after starting off lukewarm. At first he was the generic weird hacker dude destined to get friend zoned by Kara. Now he's actually kind of charming and funny.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
*reads article*
Translation: We don't know how to write interesting subplots that don't involve people in costume. Or we don't think that the audience would enjoy subplots that don't involve characters in costume.
That's cool though. You do you, Supergirl writers. Might as well go bonkers now that it's on The CW
Translation: We don't know how to write interesting subplots that don't involve people in costume. Or we don't think that the audience would enjoy subplots that don't involve characters in costume.
That's cool though. You do you, Supergirl writers. Might as well go bonkers now that it's on The CW
Jorok Goldblade
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Editors were asleep at the wheel in the old day. Couldn't even keep Supes' code name consistent across two inches of space.
Poorly. I mean, nobody's buying that the show is called "Supergirl" for any reason other than that this is a pre-existing character. As the producers said: Shes Supergirl because shes Supergirl." What happened in the first episode is that Kara had a perfectly reasonable complaint and a fictional character shut it down by saying that she didn't have a problem with it and she's the boss so that's that. I think it's totally understandable that someone who has no prior attachment to or even knowledge of the character would object to suddenly seeing a female version of Superman being called "Supergirl".
They where...
Loved the first episode and like most everyone,really like Superman and Kent,he is great for the role.
BigJonsson
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What was the name of that guy at the end? Nutella? Nutello?
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