Supply Chain Rumors Reaffirm iPhone 7 Will Not Have Headphone Jack

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I can believe that Apple probably will relegate the headphone jack to the dustbin of history, and no one will care in a few years. I can see how re-routing audio through a data port exclusively will confer advantages... A world of headphones that include high quality DACs, surround sound etc? Okay sure.

I'm not exactly "happy" about it though. The OP set up a BS dichotomy for having this discussion. "For or against" is so boring of a conversation.
 
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/01/05/iphone-7-no-headphone-jack-supply-chain/

Thank goodness. I'm glad Apple will kill the decades old, ancient tech of aux input. Good riddance. They'll drag the luddites kicking and screaming into the future, just like they have always done. Look at the past threads on GAF alone about optical drives and Flash. Hilarious.

I also hope someone comes up with a good Bluetooth because today's and tomorrow's Bluetooth is awful. Their motto should be, "Next year!"

Edit: People are confusing the lightning thing. Apple doesn't want you to use a proprietary hook up. They want you to use wireless. They're just giving you lightning as the connected option. Join us in the 21st century jfc

I'm an Apple user, and have been for years. But this isn't about bringing tech forward, it's about pushing customers towards Bluetooth Beats. Beats headphones are overpriced shit, by the way. I'm more than happy to keep the cable for audio quality and so i don't have yet another rechargeable piece of electronic kit to worry about.
 
I'm an Apple user, and have been for years. But this isn't about bringing tech forward, it's about pushing customers towards Bluetooth Beats. Beats headphones are overpriced shit, by the way. I'm more than happy to keep the cable for audio quality and so i don't have yet another rechargeable piece of electronic kit to worry about.

Are Beats the only Bluetooth headphones?

I don't think they intend to addict consumers to bluetooth Beats.

Addicting consumers to lighting-connector headphones though....? "Yummy" ~Tim Cook.
 
People thinking this is a good thing are crazy... Having a headphone jack doesn't prevent you from living "in the 21st century", you still have wireless support regardless. So why are people like OP so happy about taking it away (with all the overwhelming cons implied) ?

Few are investing heavily into developing great wireless headphones, and they won't until they're forced to.
 
Haven't Apple been pushing to remove the SIM slot for years too?

To be fair, Apple's long-term plan for the SIM card seems to be that your phone can just change carriers whenever you want from the Settings app without ever needing to change SIMs. You can see the groundwork for that in the Apple SIMs shipping in cellular iPads. If they could develop one built-in SIM card that's supported on every iPhone-selling carrier worldwide that'd arguably be a better solution than swapping SIMs for most situations.
 
"I think there is a profound and enduring beauty in simplicity; in clarity, in efficiency. True simplicity is derived from so much more than just the absence of clutter and ornamentation.

Simplicity is not the absence of clutter; that's a consequence of simplicity. Simplicity is somehow essentially describing the purpose and place of an object and product. That absence of clutter is just a clutter-free product. That's not simple"

Jony Ive

Bye bye headphone port. It's pretty obvious the product design preference is to eliminate anything they deem superfluous.

No. Simplicity is being able to take any pair of headphones or earphones on the planet and plug them into any headphone jack on the planet and be able to receive audio. No recharging, no compatibility issues, no fiddling around with Bluetooth handshakes. Plug it in and play. That's true simplicity.

Simplicity always wins with consumers, and that's why headphones still have wires.
 
Couldn't they use a 2.5mm port instead ? Just buy a $2 adaptor (like you do for 3.5->6.5mm jack) and it works perfectly.

It's just like their fucking Macbook 12" which only has ONE port that is barely existant on the market. You can remove things like that when people have an alternative or that the alternative is cheap/doesn't bother you very much. Like dropping the CD-DVD support in 2010/2011.

Anyway I was an early adopter of the 6 after 2 years with the 5, but my 6 is working great and shows little damage, I might keep it one more year.
 
No. Simplicity is being able to take any pair of headphones or earphones on the planet and plug them into any headphone jack on the planet and be able to receive audio. No recharging, no compatibility issues, no fiddling around with Bluetooth handshakes. Plug it in and play. That's true simplicity.

Simplicity always wins with consumers, and that's why headphones still have wires.
And then having to fiddle with it when you need to change tracks, someone calls, you need to pause, the broken port loses connection, etc. Very safe in a car on the move. Like the VGA cable it's so ubiquitous because our industry hates change. Maybe this will force third parties to make good BT systems.
 
And then having to fiddle with it when you need to change tracks, someone calls, you need to pause, the broken port loses connection, etc. Very safe in a car on the move. Like the VGA cable it's so ubiquitous because our industry hates change. Maybe this will force third parties to make good BT systems.

So you make a living with being an actor for homeshopping clips?

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Yep, love my podcasts.

Do not want.
that's why I love android auto/carplay.

sogud. The future is here guys.

Couldn't they use a 2.5mm port instead ? Just buy a $2 adaptor (like you do for 3.5->6.5mm jack) and it works perfectly.

It's just like their fucking Macbook 12" which only has ONE port that is barely existant on the market. You can remove things like that when people have an alternative or that the alternative is cheap/doesn't bother you very much. Like dropping the CD-DVD support in 2010/2011.

Anyway I was an early adopter of the 6 after 2 years with the 5, but my 6 is working great and shows little damage, I might keep it one more year.
if they get rid of it, it's 99% likely it wont come back. Unless you're saying you'll wait a year for manufacturers to start making stuff that is compatable with whatever connector they use.
 
What's everyone complaining about? You can always just buy new stuff. That's a simple solution every time! Why do people complain about new stuff? New stuff is awesome! Come buy some new stuff!

To combat the expense, they will add a second Apple or Beats logo to every device. That's a good value, since it's the only reason you even buy their stuff! And now you get TWO!
 
Apple killing ancient tech but is this new tech supposed to be better or is it just Apple creating proprietary BS for profits?

BS for profits.

They will be making even thinner phone with even less battery life and then charging for overpriced heahphones of their own brand.

I was thinking about switching completely to Macbook+ipad+iphone trio but if true that last part is not happening.
 
So you make a living with being an actor for homeshopping clips?

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Yeah similar to those that are champion the "simplicity" of wired headphones over the vastly herculean task of pairing a set of bluetooth headphones to your phone. If you check out some posters here you would think you need a PHD in Quantum Mechanics to use blue tooth headphones. Yet despite all this even my 75 year old mother is perfectly capable of pairing bluetooth headphones with her tablet and phone, who would've thought eh ?

I am not an Apple fanboy as I have said personally I cannot stand the company. But at this point I would be perfectly fine if smartphones removed ALL ports. Yup there I said it, get rid of Micro USB, bin USB C and relegate a 30-40 year old ear phone socket to the museum where it belongs.

I haven't used any of the ports on my phone since I bought a Nexus 4 over 3 years ago. If I want to listen to music I use my bluetooth headphones. If I want to charge my phone I just drop the phone down on the wireless charging pad. If I want to transfer files or data from my phone to my PC I do so wirelessly using Airdroid.

To me personally tethering and strangling your mobile phone with wires seems to be the complete opposite of what a mobile phone is actually meant to be about.
 
Yeah similar to those that are champion the "simplicity" of wired headphones over the vastly herculean task of pairing a set of bluetooth headphones to your phone. If you check out some posters here you would think you need a PHD in Quantum Mechanics to use blue tooth headphones. Yet despite all this even my 75 year old mother is perfectly capable of pairing bluetooth headphones with her tablet and phone, who would've thought eh ?
The sound sucks and it's significantly more expensive
But nice strawman you got there anyway
 
Apple PR is very effective.

Come September, everyone will be used to the idea.

(Note: I think it's ridiculous, but IMO it's a planted leak to get people used to the idea).
 
Yeah similar to those that are champion the "simplicity" of wired headphones over the vastly herculean task of pairing a set of bluetooth headphones to your phone. If you check out some posters here you would think you need a PHD in Quantum Mechanics to use blue tooth headphones. Yet despite all this even my 75 year old mother is perfectly capable of pairing bluetooth headphones with her tablet and phone, who would've thought eh ?

I am not an Apple fanboy as I have said personally I cannot stand the company. But at this point I would be perfectly fine if smartphones removed ALL ports. Yup there I said it, get rid of Micro USB, bin USB C and relegate a 30-40 year old ear phone socket to the museum where it belongs.

I haven't used any of the ports on my phone since I bought a Nexus 4 over 3 years ago. If I want to listen to music I use my bluetooth headphones. If I want to charge my phone I just drop the phone down on the wireless charging pad. If I want to transfer files or data from my phone to my PC I do so wirelessly using Airdroid.

To me personally tethering and strangling your mobile phone with wires seems to be the complete opposite of what a mobile phone is actually meant to be about.

I want to use the same headphones I use with my PC with my phone. For Bluetooth headphones this would mean repairing them multiple times a day as I switch between them.

For headphones under £100 I will likely have to charge them every day and feel another source of battery anxiety when I am travelling.
 
The sound sucks and it's significantly more expensive
But nice strawman you got there anyway

The sound is perfectly fine for 99.9% of the population. I certainly cannot tell the difference between blue tooth headphone and wired headphones. If you are an audiophile that cares about the sound that much then I have to ask "why the hell are you listening to music on a bloody mobile phone ?"

It is NOT significantly more expensive, you can easily pick up blue tooth headphones for less than 20 bucks which have similar sound performance to wired headphones around the same price. Now sure you are not going to find $2 blue tooth headphones like you can wired ones but then you obviously don't give a shit about sound quality.

Oh and what strawman ? Posters against blue tooth headphones keep championing the "simplicity" of wired headphones over the complexed procedure of pressing a bloody button to turn your blue tooth headphones on.
 
http://www.macrumors.com/2016/01/05/iphone-7-no-headphone-jack-supply-chain/

Thank goodness. I'm glad Apple will kill the decades old, ancient tech of aux input. Good riddance. They'll drag the luddites kicking and screaming into the future, just like they have always done. Look at the past threads on GAF alone about optical drives and Flash. Hilarious.

I also hope someone comes up with a good Bluetooth because today's and tomorrow's Bluetooth is awful. Their motto should be, "Next year!"

Edit: People are confusing the lightning thing. Apple doesn't want you to use a proprietary hook up. They want you to use wireless. They're just giving you lightning as the connected option. Join us in the 21st century jfc

Can't tell if sarcastic, OP.

What's wrong with aux?

I suppose wireless is some sort of alternative.
 
I don't really care.
Only thing that I want from iphone7 is a larger/better battery.
 
Are Beats the only Bluetooth headphones?

Nope, but they'll be marketed front and centre with the new socket-free phones. Bluetooth Beats or/and socket adaptors for all, as if iPhones aren't expensive enough already.

I use an iPhone 6 Plus, and I've never once thought "this device needs to be thinner. Be gone, headphone jack". Their motivations are much more than just trying to make the phone thinner. At least those who want wireless or corded have a choice currently.
 
Wireless headphones = nope. Just another device that needs charging. I already have too many of those.

It's great, really. And it charges with the same USB as your phone. In less than 3 hours usually, you're set for or a week of daily use.
 
can't wait until they sell a security cord for your wireless headphones because they keep getting stolen off your head on the subway
 
I use wired headphones every single day on my commute to and from work. I don't want to lose the ability to do that. I don't want a pair of headphones I have to worry about running out of battery while I'm away from home, and I don't want to have to pay more for special "iPhone 7 only" headphones if I don't want to use bluetooth. It's a ridiculous suggestion.

The mainstream are going to be annoyed as hell, no matter how many stories in this thread of grandmas pairing bluetooth headsets there are. Headphone jacks aren't some antiquated hardware, they work well and they work everywhere. All current alternatives are worse.
 
I use wired headphones every single day on my commute to and from work. I don't want to lose the ability to do that. I don't want a pair of headphones I have to worry about running out of battery while I'm away from home, and I don't want to have to pay more for special "iPhone 7 only" headphones if I don't want to use bluetooth. It's a ridiculous suggestion.

The mainstream are going to be annoyed as hell, no matter how many stories in this thread of grandmas pairing bluetooth headsets there are. Headphone jacks aren't some antiquated hardware, they work well and they work everywhere. All current alternatives are worse.

Again, what makes you think the phone won't launch with a wired headset or support wired headsets? It just won't support 3.5mm.

The 3.5mm jack is the only way for me to use something other than CD in my car.
if you're rocking an older car there will always be an adapter for you to cover that
 
Bluetooth is garbage, especially for music
Also much more expensive. Also batteries. Etc.

This... and I do not know if I would want more wireless EM frequencies around my head as I use headphones/earbuds frequently. Not to mention that we do not know the long term affects as of yet to the brain and etc (give it another 50+ years).

Not to mention that you will constantly be a slave to batteries with having to go the wireless Bluetooth earbuds/headset route.

I already forget to charge my gym ones half the time as it is.
 
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