Supply Chain Rumors Reaffirm iPhone 7 Will Not Have Headphone Jack
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SuperBanana
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Haha no. This is a stupid change and not for the better. Having less ports means you can do less and oh yeah, all those nice head phones you have now need an adapter or they're useless. I use headphones every day and change while I use them too. This can fuck right off.
ClosingADoor
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What is the reason then?
Seems like a stupid decision to just do suddenly. Ship the next iPhone with lightning headphones and aux so people can still use their old hardware, but show enough of an upside for lightning to make the people who want to switch over the next few years if needed.
And even then, how will they ever solve compatibility with other hardware. Now suddenly I need to have separate headphones for an iPhone and other things?
What's the new standard?
The headphone jack has been around for decades like the current toilet design has been around for hundreds of years - the design hit a certain point where anything else is just for shits and giggles.
Removing the headphone jack on the SP is stupid, and this will be walked back within a single model revision if they go through with it.
Removing the headphone jack on the SP is stupid, and this will be walked back within a single model revision if they go through with it.
Wow apples greed never ceases to amaze me, forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't lightning inferior to micro USB type C?
If apple were to push for M USB C to be the new headphone connector that wouldn't be so bad as it will be on all smart phones within the next couple of years anyway.
Is there actually a compelling reason to remove the headphone jack or is it just part of apples quest for ultimate thiness?
If apple were to push for M USB C to be the new headphone connector that wouldn't be so bad as it will be on all smart phones within the next couple of years anyway.
Is there actually a compelling reason to remove the headphone jack or is it just part of apples quest for ultimate thiness?
marvelharvey
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Until iOS10.
This is probably how 35pin connector folks felt once upon a time. But, well... Look at where we are now.
Hari Seldon
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This is the problem with eliminating the 3.5mm jack:
- All speakers require an analog signal to actually work (because physics)
- To convert digital to analog, you need a DAC and an amplifier.
- You can put the DAC and an amplifier in a headphone set if you want or in an adapter.
- Offloading the DAC and amplifier also requires external power.
The problem with putting the required circuitry in a headphone set or adapter is now instead of putting this circuitry in a $700 phone where the cost of high quality components is insignificant (plus a phone already has a battery), you are now offloading it onto the wild west of headset manufacturers.
The other problem with offloading this circuitry is that it sucks ass for anyone who uses their phones for audio while running or doing yard work and shit, you don't want a bulky headset with a battery or even an adapter.
This is just a fucking stupid ass idea all around, the only ones who will benefit are apple by selling you a phone with less components inside and therefore gain more margin in profits.
- All speakers require an analog signal to actually work (because physics)
- To convert digital to analog, you need a DAC and an amplifier.
- You can put the DAC and an amplifier in a headphone set if you want or in an adapter.
- Offloading the DAC and amplifier also requires external power.
The problem with putting the required circuitry in a headphone set or adapter is now instead of putting this circuitry in a $700 phone where the cost of high quality components is insignificant (plus a phone already has a battery), you are now offloading it onto the wild west of headset manufacturers.
The other problem with offloading this circuitry is that it sucks ass for anyone who uses their phones for audio while running or doing yard work and shit, you don't want a bulky headset with a battery or even an adapter.
This is just a fucking stupid ass idea all around, the only ones who will benefit are apple by selling you a phone with less components inside and therefore gain more margin in profits.
zero shift
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Aux may be ancient tech but that doesn't necessarily mean it is bad. I mean are there ports that produce superior sound?
WhiteRabbitEXE
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.PSY・S;191284157 said:
A proprietary connector and an adapter don't count as a "new standard". And unless Apple is revealing a major advancement in wireless headphones that they're going to share with everyone...
HAH
So the headphones I've bought are just illusions? That sucks. : (
-Pyromaniac-
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1) apple doesn't care about compatability for the most part, they care about their own hardware and their own vision and their own customers. I'm willing to bet anything Apple has numbers that show that the vast majority of their iphone customers use the earpods shipped with the device.
2) The reason is that they want to use their position of power to push what they think will be a better future. And also the thinnest phone on the planet (which is definitely thinner than the iphone 7 will be) DOES have a 3.5mm jack. I'm not saying it won't make it easier for apple to design their phone when they have that depth and width eliminated but it's not the only reason.
I know some are saying this isn't the same as flash and cd drives yet people are making literally identical comments in this thread that people made in those. That it's dumb, customers will lose features that competitors still have, no sites use HTML 5 yet, etc etc....This all changed so fast.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Lol at people like 'who asked for this' and 'why'.
You guys asked for it, when you bought every tiny iteration by the millions. How many people on this forum buy every single version..got a 4, need a 4s, now a 5, now a 5s. Great, so you've told the company you want every tiny improvement and you want it now. Well, eventually they need more space for those improvements and here's how they make space.
And you'll buy it. Millions will.
You guys asked for it, when you bought every tiny iteration by the millions. How many people on this forum buy every single version..got a 4, need a 4s, now a 5, now a 5s. Great, so you've told the company you want every tiny improvement and you want it now. Well, eventually they need more space for those improvements and here's how they make space.
And you'll buy it. Millions will.
SuperBanana
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The removal of ports was one of the biggest complaints of the last macbook and won it several "Least practical design" awards. You couldn't even connect a usb stick and charge it at the same time. Apple is making awful design choices and it seems some people just lap it up because "It's Apple so it must be the future!".
Ovek
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I wonder if the rumour that the adaptor cable has a DAC chip built in, in the end the only cool thing that might come out of it is being able to "upgrade" the shit cheap cirrus logic DAC that Apple insist on using by buying a 3rd party adaptor.
Saying that I bet apple encrypt the crap out of the data so you can only use the official and stupidly expensive cable or some bass heavy garbage Beats.
Saying that I bet apple encrypt the crap out of the data so you can only use the official and stupidly expensive cable or some bass heavy garbage Beats.
I take it Apple will include some wireless headphones with this package?
I remember this coming up during the iPhone 6 discussion. I'm not a fan of it, as others have mentioned, it seems like the standard has not advanced yet. You could take this as the advancement but I don't see too many headphone manufacturers jumping on board right away.
I remember this coming up during the iPhone 6 discussion. I'm not a fan of it, as others have mentioned, it seems like the standard has not advanced yet. You could take this as the advancement but I don't see too many headphone manufacturers jumping on board right away.
Souless_PJ
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I really hope this turns out to be true for the salty reactions if nothing else. All the Apple is doomed comments then the record sales numbers and head scratching to follow.
The way they'll sell it will be wireless everything. Airpods packed in and inductive charging built into the body. Lightening for legacy use.
The way they'll sell it will be wireless everything. Airpods packed in and inductive charging built into the body. Lightening for legacy use.
eBay Huckster
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OP appears to be stanning for Apple like Dixiecrats stan for racism, so yes.
In any event, can't wait to see the inevitable sales increase for the 7 in spite of this
Oh god we've hit full Don Mattrick.
Vanillalite
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Your car must suck then. My Toyota never has issues, and I use that shit all the time.
Shuggananas
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The shills are out in full force
"oh I have bluetooth anyway and I don't notice the difference !"
This argument is bs. Not everyone buys every single version, most people buy a new phone every two or three years. There's nothing wrong with buying an iPhone. It is the market leader for a reason and once you're embedded and spend money into an ecosystem, switching is a costly affair so that factors into it as well.
Also, buying the previous products in no way translates to: "Well, you asked for having no AUX port anymore."
Also, a power/USB port and AUX port is pretty much the standard for every smartphone on the market, including the iPhone. There's no "well the iPhone always had less ports so you're too blame for having even less ports now" narrative that exists.
Man, now it's on, you don't diss someone's car. billeh, tell him what car you have!
Even if the wireless headphones they bundle with the phone are great.
Even if a number of third parties make great alternative wireless headphones.
Even if it makes the phone thinner/lighter.
Even if it ends up producing superior sound (lol)
...I'm still going to have to charge another thing every day. I have a wireless headset right now, it's for long duration conference calls only, it gets charged as needed. I don't want to have to constantly maintain battery charge on a pair of wireless headphones just to listen to music when I take a walk.
Even if a number of third parties make great alternative wireless headphones.
Even if it makes the phone thinner/lighter.
Even if it ends up producing superior sound (lol)
...I'm still going to have to charge another thing every day. I have a wireless headset right now, it's for long duration conference calls only, it gets charged as needed. I don't want to have to constantly maintain battery charge on a pair of wireless headphones just to listen to music when I take a walk.
What's the problem with aux ?
Wireless tech is wank and will be for the foreseeable future for audiophiles at least.
nature boy
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Does aptX even support hi-res audio?
aptX Lossless supports high definition audio up to 96khz/24bit
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Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Of course not everyone, but how many of the sales on each release are upgrades from at most one year prior versions? I'd guess a substantial amount. I'm still rocking my 4. Totally fine..
Also, as most portable apple users know, apple seems allergic to usb.
giancarlo123x
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Awful idea.
Xisiqomelir
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Sony is treating me exactly right phonewise, probably why they'll be dropping out of the mobile space soon.
I've never liked the option set manufacturers enjoy pushing, and it's never even been a question of net cost, either, because there's always some worthless annoyance included (BlueTooth, default batteries etc) I'd rather do without.
I've never liked the option set manufacturers enjoy pushing, and it's never even been a question of net cost, either, because there's always some worthless annoyance included (BlueTooth, default batteries etc) I'd rather do without.
-Pyromaniac-
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that's why the headphones will use the lightning connector....but let me guess now the complaint is you'll want to use your headphones AND charge at the same time lol.
I am curious as to whether or not they ship headphones with a detachable cable that can be used wirelessly with the iphone. Would be hard to do that in the current earpod design though.
Shuggananas
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Unknown Soldier
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I need to find the companies which make the most accessories for Apple products and buy their stock.
I also need to buy more Apple stock, because it's going to go up. Every time Apple pisses it's captive audience off, their stock goes up more. I honestly believe Stockholm Syndrome powers all Apple profits but I'm not complaining as long as my Apple stock goes up.
I also need to buy more Apple stock, because it's going to go up. Every time Apple pisses it's captive audience off, their stock goes up more. I honestly believe Stockholm Syndrome powers all Apple profits but I'm not complaining as long as my Apple stock goes up.
GHG
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You are joking right?
gundalf
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The Audio jack is just an interface, you can output analog Audio from anything, even from USB and more so from USB-C. No worries at all, no DAC needed on the receiving end. Though, it is always possible that Apple plays the asshole and puts some kind of MFi protection to force branded/official adapters.
SuperBanana
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Just like how no one ever uses a USB or anything else while charging on their macbook, right?
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