brotkasten
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Guys, why so quiet? Don't tell me you're all afraid of the mini!
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Unless it runs something other than iOS, not interested.
Monotasking tablets are so 2010.
We all died out of laugher.
plagiarize
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you've got to figure the 4th Gen iPad poses more problems for the Surface than the mini does, but i think it's fair to say it doesn't really pose many more problems over the 3rd Gen iPad. which poses lots of problems, obviously, but i don't think microsoft will be sweating any harder after those announcements.
out0v0rder
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pro is gonna be ~1000$ with an intel graphics chip. this sucks.
Pro is going to be a netbook with a touchscreen. Not surprising.
plagiarize
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well, talking on topic, those people weren't likely to buy a Surface either were they? i don't think MS is expecting to sell many Surfaces to people that just bought a tablet in the last half year.
Glorified G
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They're completely fucking over Canada with those prices.
-Pyromaniac-
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What is there to talk about. Need surface reviews.
The $20 difference? I don't think that is fucking us over. It's not like we can't just buy from the US (with favorable exchange rates and taxes) if we want to anyways.
I don't feel so bad because I'm so disappointed with the iPad 3. I was hoping the Surface would have even better battery life but that may not be the case. I need some real world tests not just a video loop.
plagiarize
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honestly, i really don't think so. what selling point of the Surface have they countered? the Surface's appeal remains the same. the feature differentiation remains about the same too, aside from it now having a video port.
i think they're going after Windows 8 more than the Surface RT. i don't see how this does anything new to counter Surface's selling points.
they talked way more about the 7 inch tablets which were huge sellers in the last christmas season. this was a shot aimed at the Kindle Fire and the Nexus 7. did they even mention Surface once in all their talk of android tablets?
I'm guessing reviews are going through some last minute changes:
- "The pixels are larger than the iPad Mini"
- "Doesn't fit in one hand"
- "The touch cover bends round the hinge, just a copy of iPad Mini"
- "Does not do Facetime HD calls with my iPad"
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What it does do, is become THE big thing(s) a couple days before the sale of the Surface. There is now even less mind share for the Surface than there was before.
It was smart of MS to put the Surface on sale before the Apple event.
I'm sure that was the intention, but based on reactions I don't think it worked.
They showcased evolutionary products and the pricing wasn't aggressive enough to warrant the spotlight.
Anton Sugar
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New vid? Making of touch cover.
Lol @ that pcmag review mencioning that the Android market has more apps when right now even unlaunched Win8 has more tablet apps that 2 years of Android tablets, MS should troll them the same way Apple did today when announcing the iPad mini vs their Android phone stretched apps
plagiarize
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i hadn't seen it before. thanks for sharing. it's a little short, but it's kind of cool to see the cardboard mock up.
Yeah, it's fun to think of the Surface has a cardboard rectangle with a Windows logo. Thanks for the link.
lastflowers
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what's the 16GB with touch cover?
yn-neko hates a cat
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Have you seen videos of the surface's fluidity? Where are you getting your info from?
It's going to take a while for people to realize that the Surface and other tabet plaforms are not even in the same class of computing devices.
The verge linked videos a page back?
I was going to wait for the Pro but ended up pre-ordering the 64GB RT. I'm mostly going to use it for entertainment and Office so I would rather start cheap. I also have a pretty powerful PC at home so I could always use that for desktop application.
If this works out for MS and they make ever better hardware revisions (Haswell) I will upgrade to a Pro. Anyone else pre-order one?
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If this works out for MS and they make ever better hardware revisions (Haswell) I will upgrade to a Pro. Anyone else pre-order one?
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Everdred
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I pre-ordered one (32GB), cancelled it for the Samsung 500T and then cancelled that one for the Surface 32GB with cover because the normal one was sold out... Yeah, I know. Indecisive.
yn-neko hates a cat
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Yup... that's the one. I take it you haven't seen it based on your post above
It's pretty awesome. Class of its own.plagiarize
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i have a 32 Gig RT preordered with a blue touch cover. i didn't make the first batch of pre-orders, so i'm in the 'less than three weeks' group. my touch cover might yet ship out this week, which would be relatively amusing. the RT is for me and the wife to use as a supplement to my desktop and her laptop. work are likely to be providing me with a pro come next year.
plagiarize
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installing windows 8 on friday is going to be a bit of a cock tease. you can see how well the start screen works for touch just by running a few apps. it works with a mouse, but not nearly as well (but then once you learn the charm shortcut keys it's snappy again... real power users use mouse + keys, not just a mouse after all).
i'll be running Forza with smartglass and a laptop tonight, and that's going to make me want my surface all the more.
Seriously, when are they going to start shipping?!
Edit: After watching that video from The Verge I'm even happier with my purchase. The performance on the RT is great; it's so smooth.
brotkasten
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the Viso Tab RT review on The Verge has me a little nervous.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/23/3536302/asus-vivo-tab-rt-review
"I'd blame developers, but the problems are equally persistent within Microsoft's own apps. I'd blame the hardware, but the Vivo Tab runs a 1.3GHz Tegra 3 processor, which we've proven over and over again is a very capable processor. I'm left with no choice but to blame Windows RT, which just doesn't seem optimized for speed or fluidity beyond the Start screen. A couple of these problems exist on Intel-powered devices as well apps are slow to load there, too but they're much more manageable on full-blown Windows 8. Windows RT just seems too resource-intensive for the hardware supporting it."
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/23/3536302/asus-vivo-tab-rt-review
"I'd blame developers, but the problems are equally persistent within Microsoft's own apps. I'd blame the hardware, but the Vivo Tab runs a 1.3GHz Tegra 3 processor, which we've proven over and over again is a very capable processor. I'm left with no choice but to blame Windows RT, which just doesn't seem optimized for speed or fluidity beyond the Start screen. A couple of these problems exist on Intel-powered devices as well apps are slow to load there, too but they're much more manageable on full-blown Windows 8. Windows RT just seems too resource-intensive for the hardware supporting it."
wait for a review from someone who doesnt leave in a mac/iphone world
Sadly, the tablet world is an iPad-dominated world. People have come to expect speed and fluidity.
-Pyromaniac-
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You know diff people review diff stuff right.
yn-neko hates a cat
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As far as speed and fluidity (as well as features) are concerned, Surface RT is a class of its own, Android and iPad tablets can't even compare. Seriously, look at the videos; it'll blow your mind.
I'm kinda tempted to go for the RT instead of a Pro, not entirely sure the Pro justifies the likely huge increase in price. I mainly use my Nexus 7 for browsing, videos and the odd games anyway so the Pro would probably be overkill.
On the other hand, I'd have my Steam library with me on a Pro....
On the other hand, I'd have my Steam library with me on a Pro....
Not directly applicable but looks like the surface will get about 10 hrs on battery.... doing the conversion from anandtech's vivo tab review.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6387/asus-vivotab-rt-review/6
Doing the conversion from the tablet only gives 10.5 hrs but doing the tablet+doc gives 9.3 hrs... would assume overall will be around 10 hrs which to me is pretty good and far better than the reviewed i5 hardware.... haven't seen an atom review yet.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6387/asus-vivotab-rt-review/6
Doing the conversion from the tablet only gives 10.5 hrs but doing the tablet+doc gives 9.3 hrs... would assume overall will be around 10 hrs which to me is pretty good and far better than the reviewed i5 hardware.... haven't seen an atom review yet.
W8 apps often take several seconds to load even on my desktop with a 4.5 Ghz CPU and dedicated graphics. I'm not exactly surprised they can be slow on a mobile chipset.
I really hope this wont be another windows phone situation where the main interface is fast as he'll but the apps are slow and stuttery.
I really hope this wont be another windows phone situation where the main interface is fast as he'll but the apps are slow and stuttery.