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[RetroGamingUK]

As many of mentioned on here, the original Switch’s great library was thus due in part to ports of Wii U games that most people never even knew existed.

Due to the success of the Switch, however, Switch 2 won’t be able to benefit from the same remasters.

What it will benefit from though is the sheer amount of cross-gen games that PlayStation and Xbox has had to endure for the past 4 years, and co to use to endure.

When Switch launched in 2017, most developers had long since abandoned PS3 and 360, in 2025 however, there’s a ton of recently released titles which will be a doddle to port over to Switch 2…

Elden Ring
Street Fighter 6
Resident Evil 4 Remake
Cyberpunk 2077
Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth
Howarts Legacy
Lies of P
Star Wars Jedi Survivor
Call of Duty Black Ops 6
Diablo IV
Dead by Daylight
Guilty Gear Strive
Stray
Halo Infinite
Forza Horizon 5
Microsoft Flight Simulator
Psychonauts 2

What say you GAF? Will Switch 2, unlike Switch 1, get a wealth of recent and relevant third party games?

 

[JCK75]

I think it will benefit from the Series S

 

[intheinbetween]

If anything NS2 could benefit of all the doom and gloom the Series S received during this gen.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

I think it will benefit from the Series S

True, however we could see third parties abandon Series consoles before the generation is over if the S/X parity rule continues.

Similar to how Resident Evil 4 remake, for example, released on PS4 but not Xbox One due to the weakness of One S.

 

[Sebastian1295]

Cross gen lasted so long because of COVID. Console supplies were scarce for a couple of years and it essentially screwed up this entire generation in terms of gaming development and exclusive next gen games. The switch 2 will get alot of cross gen third party games but i'm really curious to see how those games are going to run framerate wise and tech wise. I'm also especially curious to know if it'll get ps5 and series x exclusive third party games that rely on the SSD of those systems and how they're going to work around that for the switch 2.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Switch 2 getting the kind of third party support the SNES had in the 90s is an exciting prospect.

 

[Robb]

Definitely, long cross-gen periods play right into Nintendos hands.

 

[PeteBull]

We all saw mario kart 9 footage, its roughly on pair with ps4, altho even gt7 on base ps4, 12yo console, looks visibly better already, ofc games that run on xbox one/ps4 will be able to run on switch 2 if ported to it, but the thing is, its very finite amount of games if we talking of 8/10 or higher quality, lets say 15 or 20 if publishers see good money in it, then we are back to square one, aka no multiplatform games for nintendo console.
This phenomenon will be even more visible in 3 years when we will have next xbox and sony will launch ps6(latest they will do it holidays 2028, thats enough time for console die to be made on 3nm manufacturing process, for comparision new nvidia series of cards thats about to launch is manufactured on 4nm process node.

 

[Beechos]

I personally don't expect it besides the usual pubs that support nintendo.

 

[Walter Matthau]

It’s pretty crazy how few next gen exclusives actually exist. Even now many games are still getting a PS4 version.

 

[vkbest]

With current optimization? let me doubt it

 

[Thief1987]

Switch 2 getting the kind of third party support the SNES had in the 90s is an exciting prospect.

This prospect is like apple become major gaming platform any minute now - fanboys dreaming, but it never has come to fruition

 

[MMaRsu]

Awesome, more ways to play cross gen crap from 5 years ago

Im so excited!!!

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

It will likely benefit from PS4, Xbox Series S, and Steam deck ports.

This will help the NS2 look like it has better 3rd party support at launch than many previous platform launches. I suspect long term it gets less titles but of a higher quality, which will be a “win” for most, including publishers if they see a higher return on investment.

I am assuming we will finally see many 3rd party ports cross and exceed the greater than 1 million sales on a Nintendo console.

COD, Halo, Final fantasy, Elden Ring, GTA, Red dead could all easily exceed 1M and likely over 2M in my arm chair accounting.

Based on several factors including, Nintendo will NOT output as many titles on Switch 2 as they did on Switch 1. Not even close.

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(I’m not counting indies). Switch 1 will get bulk of indies for some time due to install base. I expect Switch 2 will run bulk of these.

I’m specifically interested in seeing how 3 titles sell:

1.) EA Sport titles
2.) Halo (because I think it will be HUGE on PS5/NS2)
3.) the mythical Banjo Kazooie Remake (which I believe is 100% real).

 

[fersnake]

waiting to see XSS vs Switch 2 comparisons.

 

[Ozriel]

As many of mentioned on here, the original Switch’s great library was thus due in part to ports of Wii U games that most people never even knew existed.

Due to the success of the Switch, however, Switch 2 won’t be able to benefit from the same remasters.

What it will benefit from though is the sheer amount of cross-gen games that PlayStation and Xbox has had to endure for the past 4 years, and co to use to endure.

When Switch launched in 2017, most developers had long since abandoned PS3 and 360, in 2025 however, there’s a ton of recently released titles which will be a doddle to port over to Switch 2…

Elden Ring
Street Fighter 6
Resident Evil 4 Remake
Cyberpunk 2077
Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth
Howarts Legacy
Lies of P
Star Wars Jedi Survivor
Call of Duty Black Ops 6
Diablo IV
Dead by Daylight
Guilty Gear Strive
Stray
Halo Infinite
Forza Horizon 5
Microsoft Flight Simulator
Psychonauts 2

What say you GAF? Will Switch 2, unlike Switch 1, get a wealth of recent and relevant third party games?

Who told you Flight Sim was cross gen?

Also, they’ll still benefit from games that aren’t cross gen. The Switch 2 has a better CPU and faster I/O than last gen, basically the two biggest bottlenecks leading to dropping last gen. It’ll get current gen games also, going forward.

 

[Tg89]

Cross gen lasted so long because of COVID. Console supplies were scarce for a couple of years and it essentially screwed up this entire generation in terms of gaming development and exclusive next gen games. The switch 2 will get alot of cross gen third party games but i'm really curious to see how those games are going to run framerate wise and tech wise. I'm also especially curious to know if it'll get ps5 and series x exclusive third party games that rely on the SSD of those systems and how they're going to work around that for the switch 2.

Cross gen last so long because these things are effectively PCs now and most things can easily be scaled down. It’s no different than being able to play the same game on a 2060 as you can on your 4090.

It’s only going to get more common. I’d be surprised if we even get PS6 games that don’t also play on PS5.

 

[Mayar]

Neogaf will benefit greatly from Switch 2, the console hasn't been released yet, but look at how many topics, experts and analysts have appeared. It's scary to imagine what will happen after the release.

 

[Sebastian1295]

Cross gen last so long because these things are effectively PCs now and most things can easily be scaled down. It’s no different than being able to play the same game on a 2060 as you can on your 4090.

It’s only going to get more common. I’d be surprised if we even get PS6 games that don’t also play on PS5.

Ya to me consoles are close to their limit graphically to where graphics will truly blow you away. I feel like the real difference needs to start coming from NPC behavior and developers being able to program more life like worlds and environments around more life like NPC'S. I don't personally care about seeing all the hairs in a guys beard or seeing a reflection in a puddle because it does nothing for me.

 

[ReBurn]

What some call a debacle I call "welcome to the future" because the cross-gen period isn't going to be any shorter next time around.

 

[TGO]

Indeed, it'll finally catch up
Most* games releasing will get a Switch 2 port now.

 

[Magic Carpet]

3rd party on a Nintendo machine sounds like a waste of money.
I'm betting Handheld PC's will be taking a bigger chunk of the Nintendo pie this go around.

 

[PurePlatinum]

The diminishing returns of video game graphics is starting to work out for Nintendo. 20 years ago they looked hopelessly behind the times and now in retrospect they look incredibly smart.

God bless Nintendo. Glad they made it out of the Wii U era and are now stronger than they've ever been.

 

[MMaRsu]

Don't forget all of these will launch full price

 

[ArtHands]

rumor is Square Enix will port FF7 Rebirth, PS5’s most impressive looking current gen exclusive, onto Switch 2. So no surprise

 

[Gambit2483]

Basically it will get like 80% of what the Switch 1 didn't/couldn't get...and yes, there were a LOT of games that skipped Switch in these last 8 years, especially in the last year or 2

 

[drganon]

rumor is Square Enix will port FF7 Rebirth, PS5’s most impressive looking current gen exclusive, onto Switch 2. So no surprise

 

[Fake]

Probably from base PS4.

 

[Woopah]

Dismissing returns is a reality but its not a debacle. And yes this will help Switch 2 as we will see from it's third parry support.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Probably from base PS4.

Quite a leap from Switch 1 then

 

[cireza]

I will be more interested in the new games though, these we already know everything about.

 

[Alexios]

There are like 5 freaking thousands Switch games, it is not hurting for software support, first or third party. I don't see Switch 2 being too different, in that it will also get more ports earlier than later when it's surpassed by yet another generation of consoles, the odd miracle port aside.

It will be fine with more games in any style than most people will ever play, unless you guys want your console with Steam-like unplayed backlogs or something. Which can probably be so for Switch already anyway when most users buy like 10-20 (normal retail not mini) games, total.

 

[Krappadizzle]

 

[Fake]

Quite a leap from Switch 1 then

Will be a minor to mid bump to say.

NS2 does looks like a NSpro. Specs wise.

I can recommend DF for those who disagree.

 

[BlackTron]

Will be a minor to mid bump to say.

NS2 does looks like a NSpro.

Are you talking about what it literally physically looks like or is this just phrasing?

 

[Fake]

Are you talking about what it literally physically looks like or is this just phrasing?

Specs.

And I kinda agree with the OP. I remember DF saying the original Nintendo Switch does benefit from a base PS4 version because is more easy to get your base settings from there instead of PS5/Series.

 

[Josemayuste]

Not trying to bad talk Switch 2, in fact I might buy a launch Switch 2, but.. those games listed by OP I already have them on Steam Deck.. that's 'the problem' for me..

 

[EverydayBeast]

I want a normal generation, I want to be with a console for 10+ years.

 

[BlackTron]

Specs.

And I kinna agree with the OP. I remember DF saying the original Nintendo Switch does benefit from a base PS4 version because is more easy to get your base settings from there instead of PS5/Series.

According to alleged specs, depending on which you believe, NS2 is 4-6 times more powerful, with a smaller power handicap in handheld mode than NS to worry about as a baseline. Which I'd say is both a big increase, and puts it somewhere in the PS4 range.

 

[HogIsland]

The problem is if you buy any Switch 2 cross-gen game, you bought the worst version of the game.

 

[N30RYU]

Yeah it's nothing better than 4 year old games at $70

 

[RetroGamingUK]

The problem is if you buy any Switch 2 cross-gen game, you bought the worst version of the game.

Chances are the games will run better than the PS4 versions.

 

[Woopah]

Will be a minor to mid bump to say.

NS2 does looks like a NSpro. Specs wise.

I can recommend DF for those who disagree.

Do you have a link from DF saying its minor to mid?

I'd be surprised if they said that as the jump from Switch to Switch 2 is quite a major improvement.

 

[Fake]

Do you have a link from DF saying its minor to mid?

Its me saying this. Their last cover was discussing about the bump between NS and NS2 specs.

Disbanking PS4pro speculations and putting NS2 near to base PS4.

 

[Woopah]

Its me saying this. Their last cover was discussing about the bump between NS and NS2 specs.

Disbanking PS4pro speculations and putting NS2 near to base PS4.

And NS was near to base PS3, so doesn't that make NS2 a full generational leap?

It's gone from the X1 to a customised Ampere-based SoC with Ada features, triple the amount of RAM plus Tensor and RT cores. Doesn't sound like a Pro to me at all.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Its me saying this. Their last cover was discussing about the bump between NS and NS2 specs.

Disbanking PS4pro speculations and putting NS2 near to base PS4.

So it’s gone from base PS3 (Switch 1) to base PS4 (Switch 2).

That’s more than a minor leap.

 

[ResilientBanana]

I think it will benefit from the Series S

Series S is 4TFLOPS, Switch 2 is rumored to be 3.1TFLOPS when docked, but down to 1.71 TFLOPS when in handheld. It's LPDDR5 @ 102 GB/s which is SIGNIFICANTLY slower than Series S which is GDDR6 @ 224 GB/s. Even if they had the same amount of RAM, the Switch 2 would significantly under perform against the Series S. We will see the same thing we saw through the years out of Switch, but maybe a little better. Don't expect Switch 2 to hang the moon, but also, expect Switch 2 to be a significant leap from the Switch.

 

[tr1p1ex]

Skyrim was in the Switch reveal trailer. IT's not exactly news that 2 will see its share of ports.

GTA V was released on the PS3/360 as well and didn't come to Switch. And i seem to recall quite a few 1st or 2nd year ps4/X1 games also being released for the previous platforms. Not sure the song changes that much.

What changes more is the Switch 2 will 3rd party support right away compared to the Switch when 3rd parties weren't onboard at launch after the Wii U debacle.

 

[Fake]

So it’s gone from base PS3 (Switch 1) to base PS4 (Switch 2).

That’s more than a minor leap.

I don't think NS is a PS3 to be honest.

The PS3 GPU is very very bad. Do you ever look for the PS3 specs?

I hate the ARM cpu in general, but NS have like a GPU very far ahead PS3.

I'm talking about specs mind you. Some folks here take things out of interpretation.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

is this assuming no one who owned a SW had a console/PC to play those games?

i think the portable factor to play "real gamez" is way too overstated.

the other question is:
how expensive are these ports going to be?

But I think yes, we are going to see a lot of ports. I'm just not sure they are going to sell that well.