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[epmode]

I want to kill myself...i'm near the end of the game and accidently quicksaved right before i died. 5 hours down the drain.

To all you pc gamers: is there any fucking way to fix this? If not, I don't think I will ever finish this gem...

The trick is making the occasional backup save instead of relying on a single quicksave slot. I'm honestly surprised that you didn't get stuck sooner.

This might help, although I don't know if you can get it working so close to death: http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/185706-system-shock-2/cheats

 

[ChoklitReign]

I want to kill myself...i'm near the end of the game and accidently quicksaved right before i died. 5 hours down the drain.

To all you pc gamers: is there any fucking way to fix this? If not, I don't think I will ever finish this gem...

How does someone use quicksave only for five hours? It's your own fault. On the other hand there might be a way to load certain maps with the console (if there is ome).

 

[rabhw]

I want to kill myself...i'm near the end of the game and accidently quicksaved right before i died. 5 hours down the drain.

To all you pc gamers: is there any fucking way to fix this? If not, I don't think I will ever finish this gem...

Doesn't the game also auto save fairly frequently? Or does that share the slot with quicksave...?

I finally beat the game using only quicksave today, I'm a daredevil!

 

[epmode]

This game has been worked on by fans for so long, I'm positive that there's a way around the problem. Try the Looking Glass forums if you can't find something with Google.

Doesn't the game also auto save fairly frequently? Or does that share the slot with quicksave...?

It's a shared slot.

 

[XANDER CAGE]

The dinking around on the recreation deck, the elevator/tram tag the game forces you through, and (penultimate area spoiler)

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the terrible meat world

are this game's low point. It's sort of funny that this game basically has the exact same pacing problems that Bioshock has - everything after "the big reveal" feels a bit too much like padding, although

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SHODAN's

awesome voice clips make up for it just a little bit.

I wonder if Infinite is going to have the same problem.

 

[dermannmitdemcolt]

It's your own fault.

Yeah, I know. I'm just not used to this kind of savesystems anymore...

Try the Looking Glass forums if you can't find something with Google.

Thanks, I will dig into this.

 

[lotrfan]

I'm at the first O/S upgrade machine. Does Lethal Weapon increase wrench damage or should I choose Sharpshooter? On Normal difficulty.

Yes it increases wrench damage, Highly recommended. Sharpshooter is also good if you are using weapons. I would go for lethal weapon but that really depends on how you like to play the most.

 

[lotrfan]

I want to kill myself...i'm near the end of the game and accidently quicksaved right before i died. 5 hours down the drain.

To all you pc gamers: is there any fucking way to fix this? If not, I don't think I will ever finish this gem...

Others have given you good advice but I fear you may have to use someone's else save file; one that is similar to yours.

There is a mod that will change where the quicksave is saved but that is of no help to you unless you decide to replay the lost hours.

 

[Fried Food]

I just got to the

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Shodan

reveal. Now I've lost any desire to continue playing. I feel like it's all downhill from here. Just a bunch of taking orders. Some additional monsters were introduced right before this part and I don't really want to fight them. They just don't seem like much fun.

I liked fighting the more humanoid enemies. At this point they aren't much trouble, but I'd still be fine fighting just them till the end of the game. I don't want to start the whole die alot-get stronger-overcome foe gameplay loop.

Meh, maybe I'm done with this game.

 

[Purkake4]

I just got to the

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Shodan

reveal. Now I've lost any desire to continue playing. I feel like it's all downhill from here. Just a bunch of taking orders. Some additional monsters were introduced right before this part and I don't really want to fight them. They just don't seem like much fun.

I liked fighting the more humanoid enemies. At this point they aren't much trouble, but I'd still be fine fighting just them till the end of the game. I don't want to start the whole die alot-get stronger-overcome foe gameplay loop.

Meh, maybe I'm done with this game.

Well, it's obviously not for everyone.

Looking back, I really do wish there had been more of a gameplay/story dichotomy between

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SHODAN/cold metal

and

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The Many/splendor of flesh

, possibly with a

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"pure" third option

.

 

[bodyofanamerican]

I've had the SS2

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SHODAN reveal

spoiled for me a while back. Would the correlating portion of BioShock 1 be

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"Would you kindly?"

?

 

[Purkake4]

I've had the

Spoiler

SHODAN reveal

spoiled for me a while back. Would the correlating portion of BioShock 1 be

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"Would you kindly?"

?

I always correlated it with the

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Fontaine/Atlas reveal, that's the main twist in SS2 anyway, so I guess either/or would be acceptable

.

 

[bodyofanamerican]

I always correlated it with the

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Fontaine/Atlas reveal, that's the main twist in SS2 anyway, so I guess either/or would be acceptable

.

Makes much more sense, thanks for clarifying.

 

[moop1167]

Any way to force AA in this?

 

[electricpirate]

Okay, finished it off.

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who recorded the soldier saying "NAH"? I mean, that was just ridiculous.

That moment cracked me up, it just came out of left field.

 

[Sub_Level]

I just got to the

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Shodan

reveal. Now I've lost any desire to continue playing. I feel like it's all downhill from here.

The gameplay doesn't even get really good until Ops, though. That and Recreation, Command, and the Rickenbacker are basically what make System Shock 2 so damn good (Hydroponics was memorable too)

 

[akira28]

Shodan: L-Look at you hacker...A pathetic creature... I-it's not like I want you to upgrade my mainframe or anything. ;>_>

edit: a Bioshock:System Shock Conversion?

Bueno.

 

[Lingitiz]

Just finished this. I wasn't a huge fan of the later levels, but overall I really loved it. Its amazing how well the atmosphere has held up despite its age. Its been a while since I played such a compelling single player FPS. It'll definitely go down as one of my favorites of all time.

 

[Purkake4]

One thing that has probably helped it keep the atmosphere is the professional voicework, nothing will ruin your game faster than bored developers reading lines in the break room.

 

[Purkake4]

Double post

 

[garath]

So far I've been doing pretty good in the game but I just got to

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the cargo holds

and I was roaming through one of them, it was all empty and there were the

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droid storage units

all around not doing anything. Then when I found the keycard I was looking for

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all of a sudden droids started coming out of the units, and other creatures appeared. I just hauled ass running past everything until I was safely out of the cargo hold.

lol. I kinda knew it was coming but it still shocked me. Now the completionist in me wants to go back in and clear it out I turned off the game for a bit lol.

 

[Sub_Level]

Shodan: L-Look at you hacker...A pathetic creature... I-it's not like I want you to upgrade my mainframe or anything. ;>_>

Shodan, your chipset is so intricate and the bus on your circuit board is beautiful!

S-stop saying stupid things like that you stupid hacker ;_; It's so embarrassing. This is my first time.

So far I've been doing pretty good in the game but I just got to

Spoiler

the cargo holds

and I was roaming through one of them, it was all empty and there were the

Spoiler

droid storage units

all around not doing anything. Then when I found the keycard I was looking for

Spoiler

all of a sudden droids started coming out of the units, and other creatures appeared. I just hauled ass running past everything until I was safely out of the cargo hold.

lol. I kinda knew it was coming but it still shocked me. Now the completionist in me wants to go back in and clear it out I turned off the game for a bit lol.

Armor Piercing ammo brah. Alternatively you can run from them.

PROTIP: In System Shock 2, you run noticeably faster diagonally than you can in a straight line. That's why if you watch speedruns of this game the player is never really running straight.

 

[mrpeabody]

One thing that has probably helped it keep the atmosphere is the professional voicework, nothing will ruin your game faster than bored developers reading lines in the break room.

The game has good voice acting and bad voice acting. Some of those voice logs do not sound like they were recorded by professionals.

The writing is uniformly strong though.

 

[Purkake4]

The game has good voice acting and bad voice acting. Some of those voice logs do not sound like they were recorded by professionals.

The writing is uniformly strong though.

Oh, of course. That fake French accent...

It's just pretty good for when it was actually made.

 

[Clydefrog]

Damn, Deck 5 is huge. Currently making me way in and around this level...

 

[Sub_Level]

Yeah, you definitely gotta take a procedural approach to it. It's probably the most satisfying Deck to explore because there's a lot of cool rooms and nooks and crannies.

Enjoy it because Deck 6 is Backtracking Deck.

 

[derder]

I wanna run through this game co-op with my friend before bioshock infinite comes out. How many hours are we looking at?

 

[Santiako]

I wanna run through this game co-op with my friend before bioshock infinite comes out. How many hours are we looking at?

8-12

 

[Clydefrog]

Haha, Deck 6 really was the backtracking deck! Also, the little

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floating Korenchkin

guy was easy-peasy. Currently making my way through the

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Rickenbacker

and I think I’m almost done Fantastic game.

 

[XANDER CAGE]

I wanna run through this game co-op with my friend before bioshock infinite comes out. How many hours are we looking at?

A friend and I bashed the game out in about six hours, but we'd both played it before so it'll probably take a little longer. Co op does make things a lot faster, though.

 

[Clydefrog]

yay I finally played and beat System Shock 2. so much fun! the game holds up well.

that ending!

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LOL at "...nah". and poor tommy!!

 

[SkyTurnsRed]

What's the consensus on the ending? I did not like it. Completely cheesy.

Loved the rest of the game though. The atmosphere held up incredibly well.

 

[Clydefrog]

What's the consensus on the ending? I did not like it. Completely cheesy.

Loved the rest of the game though. The atmosphere held up incredibly well.

super cheesy. kinda weird because the entire game takes itself seriously. but i didn't really care..

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so where is System Shock 3??

also, i didn't have to sit through a long Credits sequence after the ending. it went straight back to the Main Menu :lol was that supposed to happen?

 

[SkyTurnsRed]

super cheesy. kinda weird because the entire game takes itself seriously. but i didn't really care..

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so where is System Shock 3??

also, i didn't have to sit through a long Credits sequence after the ending. it went straight back to the Main Menu :lol was that supposed to happen?

I guess it was supposed to. Same happened for me. Haha.

 

[Purkake4]

I always felt that it was more the Von Braun's (and Rickenbacker's) story than yours. Which is one thing that Bioshock actually fixed.

 

[Arcteryx]

lol I ran into some weird bug right away with my copy(never seen it before in all my prior SS2 replays). Guess a re-install is in my future.

Anyways, basically the wrench just flat out DOES NOT work. I stood in front of that little breakable glass "hidden" cubby towards the start of the game for ~10 minutes hitting it until it finally broke. Same goes for hybrids: I circle-strafed for ~5 minutes until it finally "connected" with the hitbox. Same goes for the monkeys, cameras, etc.

Reminds me of Trespasser

 

[Deleted member 80556]

I've had the SS2

Spoiler

SHODAN reveal

spoiled for me a while back. Would the correlating portion of BioShock 1 be

Spoiler

"Would you kindly?"

?

Spoiler

Yes it is related. It is also related to the Atlas/Fontaine reveal. But it's mainly the former one, since you're being manipulated by characters into their doing who you think are benevolent, but they turn out to be bad guys.

 

[Deadbeat]

lol I ran into some weird bug right away with my copy(never seen it before in all my prior SS2 replays). Guess a re-install is in my future.

Anyways, basically the wrench just flat out DOES NOT work. I stood in front of that little breakable glass "hidden" cubby towards the start of the game for ~10 minutes hitting it until it finally broke. Same goes for hybrids: I circle-strafed for ~5 minutes until it finally "connected" with the hitbox. Same goes for the monkeys, cameras, etc.

Reminds me of Trespasser

Thats pretty weird. You are swinging when offset to the right of enemies, correct?

 

[BadTaste]

I'm getting the following error "Your video hardware is not supported by System Shock 2". Then I had to reboot and the game won't launch at all now.

Gfx card HD 7850

 

[Arcteryx]

Thats pretty weird. You are swinging when offset to the right of enemies, correct?

Yep. I've tried pretty much everything and it just doesn't connect. Maybe one of the mods is conflicting. I will say it is kind of hilarious to witness. Gives it more of that "oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck" factor.

edit: did a full re-install, everything is working fine now. Guess it was a mod conflict somewhere

 

[Sneds]

People often praise SS2 but people seldom seem to mention the original SS. Does it hold up? Is it worth playing?

 

[FACE]

People often praise SS2 but people seldom seem to mention the original SS. Does it hold up? Is it worth playing?

SS1 was at least 10 years ahead of its time. The controls may be kinda weird if you're used to today's shooters, but if you can find it for a decent price I'd say it's definitely worth it.

 

[Sneds]

SS1 was at least 10 years ahead of its time. The controls may be kinda weird if you're used to today's shooters, but if you can find it for a decent price I'd say it's definitely worth it.

Thanks. There are mods available that seem to improve the controls so I think I'll give it a shot sometime soon.

 

[DocSeuss]

Thanks. There are mods available that seem to improve the controls so I think I'll give it a shot sometime soon.

Look for System Shock Portable. It's got mouselook and everything.

 

[antitrop]

Whelp. I have committed to finishing this game before Bioshock Infinite comes out. I feel like I... Owe it to myself. How long can I expect?
I actually have a disc copy of SS1 lying around here somewhere. I distinctly remember picking it up in the CompUSA bargain bin for $10 in like 1996. Couldn't get into it, though.

This game looks great with all the mods and shit, really stands up and plays nicely with standard FPS controls. Also... I couldn't not pick the Marines. Oorah.

 

[subversus]

Well, I've got sidetracked by other games but I plan on returning to the game this weekend probably. I've got a bit further in Hydroponics and I guess 6 hours is enough to start judging it.

My opinion hasn't changed since my last attempt to finish it. As I've said a year ago or so it's just a technothriller in space. All your emotions come from trying to survive. When I was playing Bioshock half of fun came from trying to understand the place I was in. It's missing in System Shock 2 which is mostly gameplay-driven game. Yeah, the story is good, but it doesn't makes me intrigued that much. I don't really care about Many - they are just aliens which I had to kill. I mean I don't have to try to relate to them because they are aliens ffs (and Shodan is a piece of glitched software which should be deleted). They are just enemies albeit less generic than usual. In Bioshock I could relate to the most vile creatures of Rapture because they were still human or were humans once. And I certainly could relate to Andrew Ryan.

This element - when you can relate to your enemies - is totally missing from System Shock 2. It's just me vs them, so the setup is more boring from the beginning. Also there are no scenes like a woman cooing with the gun in her carriage, no codes being written backwards by the hand of the suffocating scientist and while the environment tries to tell the story it's just a space ship where people died in droves, so it's not that interesting setting by itself. But I guess if Ken had more money this "cinematic" stuff would be present in the game and he basically said this himself during BAFTA Q&A.

So I'm looking forward to Infinite the next week. I haven't decided if I should go with 1999 mode (I'm more inclined to play on Hard in my playthrough), but I'm curious - how would challenging difficulty may affect the perception of the story presented with modern graphics and high production values? Will it get in the way or not? I guess I'll see next week.

 

[gdt]

When I download the mods, like the texture one for example, I extract into the DataPermMods folder, but I don't put the original 7z file in there with the extracts right?

 

[Purkake4]

This element - when you can relate to your enemies - is totally missing from System Shock 2. It's just me vs them, so the setup is more boring from the beginning. Also there are no scenes like a woman cooing with the gun in her carriage, no codes being written backwards by the hand of the suffocating scientist and while the environment tries to tell the story it's just a space ship where people died in droves, so it's not that interesting setting by itself. But I guess if Ken had more money this "cinematic" stuff would be present in the game and he basically said this himself during BAFTA Q&A.

I'd completely disagree with that. I don't know how far into the game you are, but I found it fully possible to sympathize with the Many by the end. Pay attention to the telepathic messages you get from them every now and then. And when you consider the whole series even SHODAN is a victim in her own way.

 

[subversus]

I'd completely disagree with that. I don't know how far into the game you are, but I found it fully possible to sympathize with the Many by the end. Pay attention to the telepathic messages you get from them every now and then. And when you consider the whole series even SHODAN is a victim in her own way.

Well, when I finish the game I'll get back to you.

 

[Stallion Free]

So there was one issue to fix with New Dark 2.4 and neither company could do it? Last night was pretty fucking depressing trying to get 4 player co-op to work.