About 1/3 I think.
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Tales of Graces |OT| Gracing the PS3 with the Best RPG Combat
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About 1/3 I think.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
Good. When I play a Tales game, I never want the ride to end.
papersleeves
Member
The future arc is great. Pretty much on the same level as the main arc. Is it worth replaying the entire game just for this arc ? Only you knows the answer to this question. For me, yes it's totally worth it. I eat this game like it's my favorite meal.
A third, maybe 2/5
papersleeves
Member
I sure understand you on that front. I never feel like these games are too long. I could easily spend hundreds of hours with these characters.
cpp_is_king
Member
I often want the story to wrap up, but continue playing the game after that. This game is a perfect example, the story actually feels like it goes on maybe about 10% longer than I'd like. Not much, but just a tad. But I totally see myself grinding titles and dualize after I'm done.
papersleeves
Member
friend
By the way, what is anyone's feeling regarding the last dungeon ? I thought it was
quite good, albeit suffering from the "will you fucking finish already?!? GOD DAMN CAN ANYONE BELIEVE THIS SHIT ??? I CERTAINLY CAN'T" symptom near the end. I thought I was about to end it 2 hours before the actual ending. Still a great final dungeon though with the puzzle and all. I liked it. I just wasn't prepared for it to be as long as it was
chickdigger802
Banned
So how do y'all deal with the bosses with multiple enemies on harder difficulties? I recall having a hellish time against the early 'slime king boss', the parasite thing in the giant sand monster, and the 2 hawks Richard brought.
Paracelsus
Member
So basically Vesperia.
dakkumauji
Member
So, since I am having troubles 60 seconding those
on easy mode, I might as well wait till new game+ so I can curbstomp them and the rest of the bosses for those trophies.
I guess I'm ok with doing two playthroughs.
dragon thingys Richard brings along
I guess I'm ok with doing two playthroughs.
RPGCrazied
Member
Yeah, hes always on my team. Right now I'm using him, Asbel, Malik and Cheria.
Slime - Killed it without letting it split for the <60s kill. I think a few of my >60s times had a lot of slimes to deal with but they're not really an issue unless you get surrounded. If you're not aiming for the 60s kill, just take the time to kill the small spawns before switching back.
Parasites - Target: Leader's Target (though, first thing I set when I started playing was this, just comes in handy here) and then just focus burning them down one-by-one. Individually they're not really that big of a deal, just nasty it they stack damage on a single person and lock them up.
This was probably the most hectic fight in the game for me (on Chaos). The first attempt was horrible as I stupidly got stun locked into an enemy Eleth Burst and just let the wipe happen; the second shot was practically flawless, oddly :/ Would've been so, so easy with an Eleth Burst on my side though.
I did switch into spamming wide-hit B-Artes (as Asbel) with Malik, Pascal, and Cheria for as much area of effect damage as I could.
Dispaters - ...killed them? They don't really do anything special as far as I remember. The hardest part of them is starting a combo due to their hitbox. The fight just takes awhile but is basically danger-free. I did have to drop out of Chaos to get the <60s kill, though.
I've been manually controlling him since he joined. Not sure how I'm going to go back to Asbel eventually
dakkumauji
Member
You don't like his high heels?
I like everyone but Asbel and Cheria. And I don't even dislike those two or anything, they're just a little bland most of the time.
RPGCrazied
Member
Change his costume then. lol. Put him in his speedos.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Hold on.
So... instead of Asbel continually saying "MAMORU MAMORU MAMORU", he says "FRIENDS FRIENDSHIP FRIENDS" now? :lol I actually think that's more acceptable.
So... theoretically, you can purchase the unlocks, not use grade for them, and then use the grade for other stuff?
are more difficult in the PS3 version than the Wii version (can't talk from experience since I haven't played the Wii version).
You also get Accel Mode and Lv. 4 Blast Calibers, which is pretty great.
I think the f arc ending is nice as well.
So... instead of Asbel continually saying "MAMORU MAMORU MAMORU", he says "FRIENDS FRIENDSHIP FRIENDS" now? :lol I actually think that's more acceptable.
That's exactly what I do. So fun. :3
Lame! So you can purchase the grade shop unlocks, but those unlocks don't use up grade to say you unlocked them, basically?I can answer that for you. No
The thing you're buying from PSN is literally the grade shop unlock. It even tells you in the description of the PSN item that if you have already unlocked the given thing in game, then the PSN purchase will have no effect.
So... theoretically, you can purchase the unlocks, not use grade for them, and then use the grade for other stuff?
I've heard some bosses like
the final boss, Emeraude, Solomos, etc.
You also get Accel Mode and Lv. 4 Blast Calibers, which is pretty great.
I think the f arc ending is nice as well.
Hubert is the boss. I can't wait grind titles in the desert for him. I'd used him for most of my second playthrough, so it's kinda weird going back to Asbel again.
No, he still says protect all the time.
RPGCrazied
Member
Wait, there is level 4 blast calibers? I didn't even know the bar when past 3. I guess I missed those.
cpp_is_king
Member
Yep, exactly.
I think hearing this critique so much had me expecting Asbel to being spouting it every line or something. He seems perfectly fine to me.
Then again, maybe I just have so much time between story moments that the number of it per hour seems lower :x
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Wonderful. :/
I almost think this idea is smart if you want to do a plat run on two playthroughs. Almost (because of cost incurred on your CC/PSN Spacebucks, etc).cpp_is_king said:
Wait, you mean you missed Pascal's amazing Level 4 BC? Oh no. Even though you got titles for Accel Mode, you had to do subevents to earn the Blast Calibers, much like what you had to do with the Level 3 ones.RPG Crazied said:
And the more you use it the more damage it does. Press R2 to activate Accel Mode when it is at 100%, then activate the Lv 4 BC like how you would activate it normally.
I had a lot of time between story moments too on both of my playthroughs. He even said stuff like that when he wasn't in story scenes.scy said:
But as I posted before, I didn't mind Asbel in general outside of that quirk.
RPGCrazied
Member
Heh, I already had them. I'm just missing Sophies and Asbel's.
Backtracking in this game is unbearable. Its really killing the fun in this game. Also, there is too many unnecessary cutscenes. I know this should be pretty much close to the end and it feels like this game is trying its damnest to pad out this adventure longer than it should.
I like Sophie and all, shes my fav but I can only put up with so much
stuff.
I like Sophie and all, shes my fav but I can only put up with so much
I'm sorry guys! I can't see! I FEEL COLD!!
While I wait for my copy of Graces to turn up, I'm replaying Tales of Destiny 2 for the first time in years. Which is worse, "protect" or "hero"?
the answer is always KUREA
Jazzy Network
Member
Does anyone else other than Sophie have a revive spell? No reason not to use her if there isn't any other person who has one.
Cheria gets one, she's the only one on my team that has it though.
RPGCrazied
Member
Why does the gauge not go past 3? I have some level 4 blast calibers, but the bar won't go any higher than 3.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Aw, one of my favourite victory skits was changed a little. Oh well. It's still fine and it works better this way in English, but I usually got a kick when
Glad Tiger Festival was retained, though.
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Asbel curled up in the corner saying he won't cry.
Glad Tiger Festival was retained, though.
Too bad "Tropical Yahoo" wasn't retained even though it demonstrated how... odd Pascal is
Cheria gets Resurrection.
That's what happened to me on my first playthrough. I ended up having to use him manually to get his titles.Ultimoo said:
Press R2 to activate Accel Mode when the Accel Gauge is at 100%, then activate the Lv 4 BC like how you would activate it normally with L1.
cpp_is_king
Member
Are you talking about Artes specific titles? If so, just go into the config screen and manually turn off the artes for every single ability but one, and when they learn the title, go turn on a different one, etc.
Perhaps not as easy as manually playing them though
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
That's what I did before controlling him manually. And I set him to B-only. :lol
It's odd because Malik doesn't usually need a lot for the artes titles. Usually about 25-40 for the adept and 200-300 for the master.
RPGCrazied
Member
I just want the trophy at this point, so I'm EZ mode Zhonecage. I'm on floor 6 now.
Life Bottles are just more convenient. Spending so much time to revive hurts.
Plus, food that revives on KO.
If it's the one I'm thinking of, it makes more sense with the
coordination comment I think. Still one of my favorite skits and I'm sad I won't see it that often since I'll never use those four together again :x
Jazzy Network
Member
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
LOL. Watch out for the final boss of the Zone Cage. That one's fun.I just want the trophy at this point, so I'm EZ mode Zhonecage. I'm on floor 6 now.
Yeah, I always threw life bottles whenever someone died because it's faster than waiting for Sophie/Cheria to cast the spell.
As for that victory quote, it was originally...
The joke was that Asbel would always say, "We will never lose!" at the end of battle. So when Asbel started doing that in the skit, the girls butt in and cut him off, with Cheria going, "Lose!", Pascal: "Perish!", Sophie: "Be defeated!" And then Asbel sits in the corner saying, "Cry even if we're left out."
It usually made me chuckle when it came up, but the English version's good too! It works with the second version with Pascal/Malik/Hubert really well since
Asbel says that there isn't any coordination, period during that one
BTW, they need to bring this Pascal costume over as DLC because it makes me laugh.
Well, there's a few skits that do the
Group: We're amazing! or whatever that the girl trio can't get right so at least there's some consistency for the English ones
...
I have no words.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Well, it's still funny nonetheless. I was kinda expecting something else for that one, given how the JP version went, that's all. Malik/Pascal/Hubert probably say something similar to what they did in the JP version since the thing is about coordination and they had none and sounded bored with the entire thing.
Does Asbel even shout "I won't lose!" during the victory stuff in this version? From what I can tell (though I'm still really early), he sorta doesn't, which is rather nice and allows for more variation. All "makenai" ever did was make me think of that Sailor Stars song. :lol
You can't deny how amazing the Toro costume is!
Sounds manly.
I can't hear what he's saying personally, but it's apparently Tremorous Celestial Thundering Spreading Light of Cyclonic Butchery.
Well, I'll check anyway :x
Hm ... I want to say that he does say "I won't lose!" occasionally, but I honestly can't say if it's in a lot of win quotes, one win quote in particular, or in-combat itself.
It is amazing, I'll say that much. That said, D3 had Toro DLC that were actually not allowed for release outside of Japan, I believe, so ...
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I was usually close to an enemy when I activated it and I held L1 after activation.This might be a dumb question, but how does one execute Malik's 4th Blast Caliber if he's constantly kicking throughout his Accel Mode? Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
He seems to say variations of it, but it's better this time around, I think. Honestly, I think in-battle English Asbel sounds a little better than cutscene English Asbel at the moment. Probably due to all that Dissidia practice!scy said:
Boooooooo! But the Toro DLC for this game is the bomb. :/It is amazing, I'll say that much. That said, D3 had Toro DLC that were actually not allowed for release outside of Japan, I believe, so ...
Oh alright, I'll try that next time I guess. Thank you!
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
You usually have to let him do his kicks, though. It seems to activate right after that.
The combat in this game is really really really good, this is the first Tales that I'm enjoying. How everything comes together gameplay wise, is might impressive. The design is very tight and rewarding.
If this was TD last game, then they went out with a bang. Games like this remind me why JP devs are still ahead of the curve when it comes to battle mechanics in rpgs.
If this was TD last game, then they went out with a bang. Games like this remind me why JP devs are still ahead of the curve when it comes to battle mechanics in rpgs.
AlphaDragoon
Member
At this point I'm about to
I'm pretty much used to the battle system now, I still don't like it compared to Vesperia/Abyss though. Asbel still doesn't bother me, I don't get the hate for him. And Sophie is awesome and adorable. Cheria is pretty terrible at times though, even after
her constantly going on about her "I had a crush on a kid when I was 11 and now it's love because I'm a stereotype" thing with Asbel is REALLY fucking annoying. What's worse is that
. Just show me more heartwarming Asbel/Sophie interactions and tell her to GTFO.
break into that Fendel Tower place, just met Pascal's sister.
I'm pretty much used to the battle system now, I still don't like it compared to Vesperia/Abyss though. Asbel still doesn't bother me, I don't get the hate for him. And Sophie is awesome and adorable. Cheria is pretty terrible at times though, even after
she stopped being a douchebag
I already know he ends up with her in the end, so they're gonna keep pushing this bullshit. Ugh
Jazzy Network
Member
Cheria is not too bad. As far as main heroines go in Tales series she's better than most of them.
AlphaDragoon
Member
I don't mind her at all except for the Asbel/Cheria romance push they're going for which is irritating as fuck.