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Tales of Graces f is the best Tales of... game I've played

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Jealous of the Glory that is Johnny Depp
About to fight the last boss of the main arc, I think it's safe to say this is the best Tales of... game I've played. I have to admit that I only played 3 tales games before this one, Tales of Destiny (enjoyed back then), Tales of Symphonia (didn't like) and Tales of the Abyss (hated it).

Sure storywise the game is nothing special, but it's no offensive either like other jrpgs. The cast is actually likeable, and the skits while not being that memorable help to develop the cast. What I did like about the skits is how they were presented, with full body artwork for the characters. The english voice acting is really really good, and I'm glad that for once all the skits are voiced giving the game a much better presentation, I believe Vesperia did this too which is great and I hope the trend of full english voiced skits continues.

Now the gameplay is where this game really shines. Graces' battle system is simply amazing. The basics are that you move back and forth on a line depending on the enemy you are targetting and this is basic for any Tales, but the addition of quick-stepping is just a much better mechanic than free run. Quick-stepping can not only be used to traverse a battlefield but it can also help you dodge enemy attacks, it works a lot like SO4's blindside mechanic except that it's much better, you don't have to hold down a button and then wait for a crosshair to appear like in SO4 instead simply holding down the block button and moving the left stick in any direction is enough. This is the first Tales games I've played that has the CC mechanic, and honestly I can't go back to TP. CC (Which stand for Chain Capacity) means you can go all out in battles because CC gets restore after each battle, at first it seems a bit limiting but later on you get enough CC to pull off some really impressive combos. It's a shame Xilia goes back to TP because CC makes the TP mechanic look dated in comparison.

Artes in Graces are divided in two categories: A-artes which are usually quicker attacks and B-artes these artes are slower but more powerful. Switching between the two categories is not only useful in battles but it also looks fucking cool. Asbel's A-artes for instance are attacks that are done with the sword sheathed while his B-artes are attacks done with his sword drawn out. Switching between the 2 categories like I said earlier is not just aesthetic mechanic for battles, it's also extremely useful because each enemy has a set of weaknesses that if you hit successfully not only is your damage multiplied by a insane amount but your CC also gets restored allowing you to keep chaining moves for longer combos.

The skill progression system is also genius, the Titles a tales series staple is how you develop your characters. These titles are usually achievements gained during battles, but a lot of those are also plot-related. Each title has 5 skills 2 are stat boosting skills while the other 3 upgrade your existing skills or Artes and sometimes maybe even learn a new arte. Equipping a title also give you a passive effect thats only avaible while you have that specific title equipped.

I could go on and on, but I don't want to make a huge post which will probably not even be read but in summary Tales of Graces f feels like the ultimate tales in terms of gameplay. Apparently it was the last Team Destiny game as both teams (Symphonia and Destiny) got merged, if so then damn... they went out with a bang.

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Bladenic

Member
Tales of Vesperia is the best overall Tales game, but Graces f certainly is a strong contender for best gameplay (if not my personal choice).
 
Abyss is my favorite... But yeah, Graces F is absolutely amazing IMO... I loved everything about it.. A memorable experience ( That Battle System :O ).
 

Aeana

Member
It just depends on what you care about. If you value combat and auxiliary/progression systems, then Graces comes out on top. Lots of people care more about cast or story, though, and Graces isn't going to do it for them.
 

Duelist

Member
Yeah another vote here for Tales of Vesperia. It had me hooked from beginning to end compared to Graces f, where I got really annoyed with the characters in the first few hours.
 

Beck

Member
It's definitely a great game, but I think Tales of Vesperia is much better (and in my opinion, Tales of Destiny 2 / Eternia is still above most)
 
I played the beginning.. Once i heard the opening bits of dialogue, and found out I couldn't skip certain exchanges, i Immediately ejected it and returned it to my friend.
 

Celegus

Member
ToV is probably the biggest reason I wish I had a 360, so since I haven't played that, Symphonia was definitely my favorite. I do tend to favor story / characters over combat though, and Graces F pretty much fails on that aspect.
 

Seda

Member
I didn't really like Grace's title system or dualizing. CC is cool; I wouldn't say I prefer it to TP though.
 

Oyashiro

Member
Nope. Stopped reading at "I have to admit that I only played 3 tales games before this one, Tales of Destiny (enjoyed back then), Tales of Symphonia (didn't like) and Tales of the Abyss (hated it)."
 

Aeana

Member
No Tales tops Tales of Rebirth.
Rebirth is #2 for me, I just like Graces's auxiliary systems more.
The people who hate Graces because of its story/characters would DESPISE Rebirth, though. It does have the worst plot point in gaming.
 

Blades64

Banned
Battle system in Graces is what saved it. Bland and annoying characters though.

Tales of Vesperia is where it's at. Best Tales of...game that I've played. Awesome characters, great graphics, nice story, and awesome battle system as well. :)

Edit: Oh you've only played 3?

Fix that man. There are more, better games in the series. :)
 
i'm so tired of the tales of formula, i've only finished two, destiny 2 ( the real one), and symphonia. I almost beat vesperia, 90% done, but at that point I just can't stand it anymore.
 

grandjedi6

Master of the Google Search
Sure storywise the game is nothing special, but it's no offensive either like other jrpgs. The cast is actually likeable, and the skits while not being that memorable help to develop the cast. What I did like about the skits is how they were presented, with full body artwork for the characters. The english voice acting is really really good, and I'm glad that for once all the skits are voiced giving the game a much better presentation, I believe Vesperia did this too which is great and I hope the trend of full english voiced skits continues.

Besides the bolded (craziness there Error!), I fully agree. Tales of Graces f's gameplay and subsystems + Vesperia's everything else would have resulted in a truly amazing game.

Also, playing on Chaos should be mandatory
 
Tales of Graces F was really the straw that broke the camel's back. 40 hours into it, and having to suffer through these bland, asinine cardboard cut-out characters who in no way, shape or form represent anything even remotely human, for just one second longer and you know what, I think I probably would have straight up murdered my entire family. Still, pretty good battle system, huh!
 

khaaan

Member
Do you need the DLC/Exclusive costumes to platinum it? After hearing so many good things about it I'm really close to buying it.
 

ilold

Banned
I think it's safe to say this is the best Tales of... game I've played. I have to admit that I only played 3 tales games before this one, Tales of Destiny (enjoyed back then), Tales of Symphonia (didn't like) and Tales of the Abyss (hated it).

your opinion is invalid
 

SaintZ

Member
It has the best battle system out of the Tales I've played but the story is not very interesting and the characters are kinda bland outside of Pascal.

I liked Phantasia's story a lot better but it has the WORST battle system, sadly.
 

Hydrargyrus

Member
Battle system is fantastic, but the characters and the story are not as good...

I really hate Asbel and Cheria, mmm and even Sophie.
 

Aeana

Member
Streamlined, was way easier to just grind skills/fill orbs. Upgrading equipment was also easier. I was sad that the shop system was changed in Xillia 2 compared to 1.
Heh. Shop build is by far the thing I dislike most about Xillia. It absorbed so many Tales systems like cooking and item synthesis, and killed the fun of getting to new towns.
 

RoeBear

Member
Graces characters were just way too accepting of everything going around them. It's like oh problem, whatever I won't question motives. Tales of Symphonia is my favorite. Regal and Genis are just awesome.
 
Graces F has my favorite story and themes in the series, really like the Asbel/Richard stuff and pure theme of friendship and dedication. Battle system is addicting. Asbel and Richard had good voices too, and Asbel had awesome swimsuit in the series.

Only thing that really holds it back is the high hp of standard enemies late game...But yeah definitely at the top of my list too for tales game, dethroning Abyss 3D and Eternia from the top spot.
 
The battle system is one of the only good battle systems in the entire series, but just like most Tales games, the game becomes unbearable once a cutscene roles around.
 
Graces has an amazing battle system, but I do so hate the story & most of the cast (especially Asbel)

Fuse Graces battle system with a decent story & cast and you've got yourself a top flight rpg. I just can't ever see myself replaying Graces, since I know in between every fight I have to deal with Asbel's constant whining. For some reason it's a lot easier to replace a game with a lesser battle system but fun story/characters, like Vesperia.

Rebirth is #2 for me, I just like Graces's auxiliary systems more.
The people who hate Graces because of its story/characters would DESPISE Rebirth, though. It does have the worst plot point in gaming.

Way to kill my tales of rebirth translation hype :/
 

M3z_

Member
Having played Abyss, Vesperia, Graces F, and Innocence I can't support Graces F as being better than Vesperia. Despite the fantastic combat system of Graces F, Vesperia just offers a much better and consistent overall game for me. I just burned through the last 10 hours or so of the main story of Graces F because I was so detached from the characters and story at that point and the combat alone couldn't keep me in love with the game. Vesperia offered really great characters, an above average story, a terrific world, and great combat. Plus I got to play as a freaking dragoon and do some sick ass air combos with Judith. If you genuinely like the characters and story of Graces F I can totally understand why it would be your favorite. I just don't understand why people would genuinely like the characters or story of that game.
 
No is not... no way in hell...

Tales of Vesperia
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of Phantasia


Tales of Graces is mediocre
You've just bolded the 3 Tales games I liked, in the right order. Vesperia is my favorite JRPG of this gen so far.

I'd have unwrapped and started Graces F if Ni No Kuni wasn't coming out tomorrow in Europe. The comments here make me a bit wary.
 

Midou

Member
Best tales combat and one of the best action RPG combat systems, but one of the worst casts and stories in non-flatout terrible RPG history. The story was so offensively bad that is all I'm going to remember about that game.
 
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